Guest sydneyboy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 There was a report in yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald from its Thailand correspondent about a crackdown on Thailand's commercial sex scene. I quote the first paragraph in full : "Thailand's infamous sex industry is under fire, with the tourism minister pushing to rid the country of its ubiquious brothels and a spate of police raids in recent weeks on some of the largest establishments providing sex services in Bangkok". The tourism minister was quoted as saying ''Tourists do not come to Thailand for such a thing (sex). They come for our beautiful culture''. The report states that police raids on dozens of brothels in recent weeks in major cities all over the country. There is no specific mention of the gay scene. Has anyone encounted issues in respect to the gay go go bars and massage establishments? I recall some years ago Thaksin had a ''social order'' crackdown which did impact (relatively briefly) on the gay scene. Comments and observations welcome. Quote
Guest cdnmatt Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 That's why god invented Grindr and Hornet. Quote
Guest abang1961 Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Isn't it stupid to try to eradicate sex trade anywhere? Come on, it is the world's second oldest occupation. There are people in critical need of money and the fastest way is to offer your time and body. Instead of killing the goose that lay the golden eggs. why can't they simply turn a blind eye altogether? After all, this is the Land of Smiles (from guys and gals) not some morally-upright society! Tell me, without proper education and skills, can the domestic economy by Thais alone sufficient to survive? So to the Thai authorities, wake up your bloody idea! Quote
Guest sydneyboy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 The threat to the economy was mentioned in this newspaper report as was corruption. We all know this will mean just more bribes after the initial dust settles. Quote
vinapu Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 ''Tourists do not come to Thailand for such a thing (sex). They come for our beautiful culture''. they would do smart thing if they considered how much average museum goer contributes to the economy versus average Sex Joe spending most of his time in bars and taking offs right , left and centre anddy and Alizizou 2 Quote
Alizizou Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Hahaha..actually we dont care about your 'beautiful culture'...our culture is more unic n beautiful.. Quote
steveboy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 In my seven trips to LOS, only in the first one I visited most of the tourist traps with a guide. In the other six, "beautiful culture" never crossed my mind, busy with "beautiful people". Isn't it ironic that the military post themselves as defenders of morality? The military are the only group in society allowed and encouraged to kill other people (the 'enemy'?) with impunity. biguyby 1 Quote
NIrishGuy Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Come on, it is the world's second oldest occupation. So if t's the SECOND oldest so what was the first then ???? Quote
firecat69 Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Pattaya would dry up and go away. Bottom line a large % of the action has moved to apps so doubt hey'll try to do anything about that or the other. Just a lot of words to get more Tea Money. Quote
Alizizou Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 So if t's the SECOND oldest so what was the first then ???? Actually its the oldest.. Quote
gerefan Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 So they they built the biggest Brothel in the world ...and now they want to knock it down. ..Fat chance. Quote
ggobkk Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 Crackdowns on pleasure, while ultimately never successful, can be successful in the short term. At the moment, as PaulSF and others have mentioned, the non Thai boys have been let go from the gogo shows. The Vietnamese boys, some of whom I know, are giving up on waiting and going home. paulsf 1 Quote
steveboy Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 The Vietnamese boys, some of whom I know, are giving up on waiting and going home. The Vietnamese are not very religious, and their acceptance of LGTBs is improving. Wouldn't it be a smart move by this country to to offer these returning boys good working opportunities and take some of the sex tourism away from Thailand? There is nothing better for consumers than some competition vinapu and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
gumbleby Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 So they they built the biggest Brothel in the world ...and now they want to knock it down. ..Fat chance. If Thailand wants to attract the fabled quality tourist, they'd better knock down all of Pattaya and rebuild, this time with proper infrastructure and urban planning. Pavements full of utility poles, cables in open air, etc. don't exactly exude luxury. I guess some of the bars in the center of Bangkok will feel the heat though. They're sitting on some valuable real-estate. Quote
kokopelli Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Actually its the oldest.. Hunters, fishers, gatherers, scribes, medicine men, priests, artists, craftsman such as stone tools makers, etc. All might qualify as the oldest profession. We really don't know if money or goods or services were exchanged for sex in ancient times. Quote
Popular Post vinapu Posted July 21, 2016 Popular Post Posted July 21, 2016 Hunters, fishers, gatherers, scribes, medicine men, priests, artists, craftsman such as stone tools makers, etc. All might qualify as the oldest profession. We really don't know if money or goods or services were exchanged for sex in ancient times. some older members of the forum may still recall ChristianPFC, Brummbaer, kokopelli and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post bkkguy Posted July 21, 2016 Popular Post Posted July 21, 2016 So if t's the SECOND oldest so what was the first then ???? carpentry - it is said Eve made Adam's tool stand Alexx, ChristianPFC, vinapu and 2 others 5 Quote
Guest shamahan Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Go go bars , host bars and massage parlors operate legally in Thailand (in localities where they are allowed). It does not mean they do not need to pay "tea money"" (otherwise, they can be accused of being "front for prostitution" which is illegal in Thailand). There are also "bona fide" brothels which are strictly illegal and always have been objects of persecution. The type of establishments mentioned above are not going anywhere (and not unique for Thailand) no matter who and what said. Quote
Guest Steve1903 Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 If Thailand wants to attract the fabled quality tourist, they'd better knock down all of Pattaya and rebuild, this time with proper infrastructure and urban planning. Pavements full of utility poles, cables in open air, etc. don't exactly exude luxury. Pavements full of even slabs would be a start. Quote
vinapu Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 If Thailand wants to attract the fabled quality tourist, they'd better knock down all of Pattaya and rebuild, this time with proper infrastructure and urban planning. Pavements full of utility poles, cables in open air, etc. don't exactly exude luxury. What? you want another Singapore there? If they attract quality tourist where we all are supposed to go? ggobkk 1 Quote
gumbleby Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 What? you want another Singapore there? If they attract quality tourist where we all are supposed to go? I wouldn't worry about Thai authorities starting over in Pattaya. Moral crusaders are quite capable of shooting themselves in the foot however. I wouldn't mind a second Singapore if the boys are still there. Quote
Guest shamahan Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 People who invoke Singapore in this thread demonstrate their ignorance. Prostitution is LEGAL in Singapore. However, gay sex is not. That creates certain problems with gay sex entertainment venues. The latter may change in not so distant future and Singapore has a chance to become one of the most attractive asian gay destinations. Quote
vinapu Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 People who invoke Singapore in this thread demonstrate their ignorance. Prostitution is LEGAL in Singapore. However, gay sex is not. That creates certain problems with gay sex entertainment venues. The latter may change in not so distant future and Singapore has a chance to become one of the most attractive asian gay destinations. in context of Singapore we were talking about quality of urban planning and infrastructure , not an access to somebody's ass and cock. Quote
steveboy Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 I wouldn't mind a second Singapore if the boys are still there. And if the cost of living is still the Thai one. Quote
steveboy Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 in context of Singapore we were talking about quality of urban planning and infrastructure , not an access to somebody's ass and cock. There are some nice asses and cocks in Singapore... biguyby 1 Quote