Man hunting in Bangkok - report of trip of June 2016

[biguyby]

I've really enjoyed reading your reports Vinapu and although it only 3 weeks since I returned home from my last holiday in Pattaya you've got me thinking about my next trip!

 

Thanks for entertaining us with some excellent reports of your exploits in the Land of Smiles!

[Guest]

Nantra Silom is good value for money. Some rooms can use more maintenance  but generally over years I had only once issue there with room smelling durian. Location is great too- quiet corner but steps from Silom  

 

Despite an excellent location, I have repeatedly dismissed the Nantra & booked elsewhere after careful consideration. 

I just cannot remember what the problem was.   Does it have room wifi + in room safe + no joiners fee ?  

 

I'm fairly sure it would tick all the other boxes - good location, clean rooms with en suite, reasonably comfortable bed, quiet rooms & looks respectable.

[orson]

Toilet gets wet when showering, in room safe not bolted down, extra fee for 3rd towel, big asian style cockroach

[Alizizou]

Orson..can you show me which hotel in this world that toilet not getting wet when you use it..lol

[vinapu]

Day 12, the last. Some may need tissues.

 

Last day for me is always devoted to tourist program so I took canal boat to Talat Bobae market. Easy accessible and much,  much smaller than Chatuchak , not very crowded makes good place to wander between stalls munching on some fruits and snacks. I did not buy anything but prices , specially for clothing there are very reasonable.

 

Returned by the boat as well and walked according to sign on the pier 230 meters to a Jim Thompson house. He is a guy credited with reviving Thai cottage silk industry who disappeared  into thin air in Malayasia in 1967 without a trace. House is actually few houses  in a  nice garden, sightseeing is with the guide only so I waited 20 minutes for start of my tour, entry 200 baht for foreigners.

 

Quite interesting and due to compact size not tiring so worth trying, for lazy types there’s free shuttle tuk-tuk to and from National Stadium BTS. As with museums biggest part is souvenir shop and actually I splurged on some  beautiful rag , spent 420 , thought I put it in my backpack     but when I peeked inside while on the train thing was gone. Where,  how and when I don’t know. Just disappeared , quite like Jim.  

 

Early afternoon I went to Senso, my first massage this trip was there and so it will be last thought I hoping Jack will be there this time but he was not.  So I settled to Ton, tall guy with beard. Massage was Ok but went I tried to discover what is poking me from behind he turned out to be exceptionally well endowed. At first I thought silicon but under closer examination I did not see that being a case. WOW, wow, wow. So again Senso did not disappoint , my only concern is that at 4 they had only 4 boys available and when I was leaving at 5.30 it was the same number. But all very handsome  and well built.

 

I was a bit rushing home because at 6 I was expecting Alek for a last time, he came actually a bit earlier.

He  started with his ‘ you are my boyfriend  ‘ but it was time to open eyes.  I’m leaving , I will be very far and don’t even know when I will be back since for both this and next year I have some other trips to undertake.

 

His eyes turned misty , then more and all of the sudden he burst into tears hiding his face in the towel.

It did not take long before I needed my own towel, what a drama! He is telling me that his heart was never so broken since his boyfriend left him few years ago. Then I had this sobering moment : why we are crying if we had such a good time in last 2 weeks , shouldn’t we be happy that it happened instead of crying that is over ? It worked as charm, smiles returned, hugs followed , hands started wandering here and there , towels are drying and we are back in fun business.

 

It looks that shedding clothes made us smiling again , certainly it was residue of washing powder which made us crying  before! We even become hungry so we went to soi 4 again for the last supper. I was already packed and  when time came to leave he was insisting to go with me to the airport, idea I was trying to discourage because it was late and he will be forced to take a taxi and all I can give him is 1500 I put aside as short time tip .

 

He even did not want to take this money but when I told him that if he was in bar instead here he could land a client he resigned to his fate and took notes. Familiar route – Phaya Thai , City Link . We arrived at 11.45 , I suggested that he takes last train so last hugs and kisses on the platform. No tears this time , we are too old for that I guess. Wave good bye and he returned, I went to departure hall with enough time just to pass through emigration without haste. With no money left no need to stroll through duty free shops. Actually I found 10 baht coin in one of pockets so as always gave my last money to a cleaning lady.

 

Another fun filled trip is over. Despite of what some may think  I almost managed to keep it within  budget.

New invention  was so many nights  / 4  / spent with 2 boys. Not really my idea , I just wanted to swim with the flow. I think I still like one on one encounters better but if we don’t try , we don’t know.  

 

Having another quasi boyfriend again , it just happened. At least Alek fully understood meaning of butterfly and not even once tried to stop me from “betraying” him. No,  I’m not  a boyfriend material. I don’t believe in long distance relationships, friendships yes   but nothing more. It was fun and joy but at times I thought that part of my holidays are on somebody else’s agenda. It was price worth paying although on longer vacations it could become a bit tiresome for somebody like me who likes unplanned holidays. If other party is involved it  becomes much harder to make decision in a second.

 

Not even once he asked me for money or more money.

 

Only glitch on the trip was second night with inflated request for  a tip  but I did not dwell on the issue. I remember  that I had another boy asking for more but as much as I hate those surprises he did because he could. Tawan monodiet was not boring nor exhausting, it looks that their boys have what I’m looking for. I don’t know what it is but they have it. I think it may be some maturity and understanding what both sides of  a deal are supposed to get  out of it. I guess they are just, well, men.

 

I have regrets too. I could take Tao from BBB Inn at least once more. I’m still dreaming about offing Tiger long time.  I should take at least once Dit from Arena and have massage with his brother Fai. I was not brave enough to try to off Mekhin in Tawan   and one of Jupiter stars but I guess in two weeks one can’t have it all. I think despite of long and tiring flights I like two weeks stays better than longer ones . Enthusiasm is undiminished and budget easier to control.

 

I liked Raya  although is not for everybody’s budget and I was thrilled with my notoriety when I was passing with different boys every so often. Nantra Silom is great place to stay and value for money. Just for their price don’t expect too much Other than breakfast included I did not see much difference between Ambiance and Le Café Royale. I still like Bangkok better than Pattaya but perhaps  I should give her more chance and spend at least 1 week there?

 

It was great pleasure to spent so much time with Xiluzer and his crowd and to meet Williewillie in Pattaya and Anddy in Bangkok. Always fun to meet face behind the name and posts.

 

If somebody enjoyed those reports I’m glad to hear.  If somebody found them boring and useless I don’t take any offence if he tells me why. My apologies for lack of graphics and pictures. Since I use boys numbers and nicks I think some things  should be  kept  unsaid. 

[numazu]

vinapu: your reports are never boring. I am in the middle of my trip as we speak so I am using your experience as a guide. For one it has made me want to go Tawan more because of your bar mono diet, and two I am going to be more adventurous like you. I maybe will do a trip report if I don't get into a big BF experience situation. 

 

Its funny, you had tears at the end of your trip, I had mine at the beginning. And there is plenty of chances of more tears because I have 9 days left.

[orson]

Orson..can you show me which hotel in this world that toilet not getting wet when you use it..lol

All the hotels that have shower curtains will not have their toilets become swamps when you take a bath.

[faranglaw]

Thanks vinapu for the wonderful read. I feel like I've just finished a higher class romance novel. Very satisfying! จุบๆ

[vinapu]

What's the typical breakfast and price range in foodland patpong.

American breakfast, 62 baht  between 5.30 and  9, 78 baht at other times

 

two eggs with choice of saussage , ham or bacon

small glass of fruit juice / orange or guava/

tea or coffee

two toasts with orange jam

 

nothing fancy but filing and whenever I stay in Nantra, Pavillion, Take a nap  or BBB Inn I go for breakfast to Foodland.

 

 

They have full range of dishes available at all times  and my boys are usually taking something more lunch / dinner like

[vinapu]

I don't like that they charge you for the extra towel. I think for 100baht you can buy one.

what I'm supposed to do at 10 at night? leave 2 handsome boys watching TV and hunt for a towel ?

[vinapu]

Despite an excellent location, I have repeatedly dismissed the Nantra & booked elsewhere after careful consideration. 

I just cannot remember what the problem was.   Does it have room wifi + in room safe + no joiners fee ?  

 

 

Since wi-fi is very good and they can't care less about the joiners it must be safe, sometimes not working, you need to call reception to open it etc but for me it's not an obstacle

 

 

Toilet gets wet when showering, in room safe not bolted down, extra fee for 3rd towel, big asian style cockroach

lift the seat so won't be wet,

if you place your money in the safe it will be too heavy to lift anyways,

budget hotel must make money on something,

never saw insects there  but one room smelled foul with durian

 

Orson..can you show me which hotel in this world that toilet not getting wet when you use it..lol

he is right because there no divider between shower and a seat but remedy is presented above

[musgrave]

Love your thoughts about the end of a trip and the goodbyes that come with it  - I once read somewhere "do not be sad that it has ended, be thankful that it happened" - so I try to keep that in my mind when it is time to say " see you soon"

[vinapu]

vinapu: your reports are never boring. I am in the middle of my trip as we speak so I am using your experience as a guide. For one it has made me want to go Tawan more because of your bar mono diet, and two I am going to be more adventurous like you. I maybe will do a trip report if I don't get into a big BF experience situation. 

 

Its funny, you had tears at the end of your trip, I had mine at the beginning. And there is plenty of chances of more tears because I have 9 days left.

as mentioned above  mono diet served me surprisingly well

 

trying new things may cost more money but many things we don't know how they taste   unless we try - this is my way of thinking. Last year I tried double night and it did not work because I did not consult boy whom to bring , I just did.

This year I did not even think about it but for a change boys came with that idea , Not entirely sure I liked it and it cost much more money but  it was something new and actually each of those 4 nights had a bit of different scenario.

 

As for your trip report forget word 'maybe' please.

 

Tears were stupid which I noticed very fast, why to cry at end of such pleasant and fun filled trip instead of smiling all the way to the bank to pay trip debts?

[vinapu]

Thanks vinapu for the wonderful read. I feel like I've just finished a higher class romance novel. Very satisfying! จุบๆ

crowding bed with 2 different boys each night you call romance?

 

I don't have feeling it was anything romantic in this trip, at least not for me  but fun filled she was, days and nights with very little boredom, this is what I like on my vacations  

[Guest Looksee]

vinapu, I felt as if I was on holiday too reading your post from day one. it was helpful, and gave me ideas on what to try next

[vinapu]

 - I once read somewhere "do not be sad that it has ended, be thankful that it happened" - 

I read it too and it was comforting thought when my mother died on my hands.

 

Life is too short to look at empty half of glass and vacations are too short to worry about wasting money here and there or inevitable poor choice of companion from time to time.

 

just go , enjoy  and remember that in order to return we need to leave first.

[brall3]

You wrote that: "Other than breakfast included I did not see much difference between Ambiance and Le Café Royale". Which hotel included breakfast in their daily room rate and what site did you book the hotel through? Some think that the Ambiance is a bit jaded. How did you find the hotel? Thanks.

[vinapu]

You wrote that: "Other than breakfast included I did not see much difference between Ambiance and Le Café Royale". Which hotel included breakfast in their daily room rate and what site did you book the hotel through? Some think that the Ambiance is a bit jaded. How did you find the hotel? Thanks.

Ambiance had breakfast included. It was my first stay there, so far I always used Le Cafe Royale but this time crossed the soi enticed by offer on Agoda website of less then 30 USD per night with breakfast for two. I don't remember exact figure but it was a steal.

 

I found both hotels equally pleasant and very good value for money. I did not notice anything jaded about Ambiance but truth is , other than night we spent very little time in the hotel. A/C was working perfectly , room was on smallish side but comfortable enough. I recommend both hotels equally with clear conscience, ideal for somebody like me who likes to be close to the desired action and Pattaya biggest attraction, Boyztown in absence of Louvre and Colliseum  

[Alizizou]

Wow..seems like you offed boys from tawan almost every night and days..are you bill gates cousins?..lol..

[vinapu]

Wow..seems like you offed boys from tawan almost every night and days..are you bill gates cousins?..lol..

yes , with exception of night 3.

 

no I'm not but fact that I got bonus at work equivalent of 10 long time off tips  just 2 weeks before departure helped to a great degree.

 

My reasoning is , I don't spent 18 hours flying to economize and spend lonely nights. I do it with great success at home, LOL  

[firecat69]

I am constantly amazed by comments that Vinapu must be Bill Gates Cousin or very wealthy.

 

Most of us who visit Thailand for Sex is because it is so much cheaper then our home country.

 

Just imagine if Vinapu spends 10 days and spends $200 per day (7000 baht). Add on a cheap airfare and maybe he would spent $3000. In USA that would get you 2 overnights with a Hot Looking Boy.

 

What other reason could there be to spend 26 hours or more in a silver tube and suffer all the things that go along with time zone travel.

 

I have travelled all over the world being a non- sex tourist and I enjoy those trips. I could and have gone to Prague, Barcelona, Madrid etc and have on average spent on average 5000 baht for 1 hour with cute boys.

 

Of course Thailand also offers many opportunities to meet boys for sex, (Apps, GoGo Bars, Massage Parlors etc) Much more varied choices then other countries.

 

Prices are comparable in Brazil but the scene is mainly Saunas and certainly not Twink Heaven.

 

So overall Thailand continues to attract Sex Tourists because the selection is wide and the prices are cheap. Along with that decent clean Hotels can be had far cheaper then all the countries I have mentioned. Food is cheap !

 

 

Yes it is possible to visit Thailand and have Sex daily of some kind ( Massage, Hotel etc) and only spend 3000 baht a day plus airfare.

 

The question would be why. Save up a little more and have the kind of trip Vinapu has even if it means less trips.

[Guest abang1961]

I have been in Thailand for the past 2 weeks. Except for the visits to House of Male, Chiangmai and Sansuk, Pattaya, I was practically sex-less. It was a decision I took when I started my trip.

 

Yes i was on Grindr and Hornet a fair bit.. and I did get lots of attention but none materialised...

 

I agree that the fee and gratitude given by some forumers are justifiable... it is Economics 101..demand vs supply.. so continue to boost your satisfaction and the guy's wallet.. Bravo...

[Guest abang1961]

I have been in Thailand for the past 2 weeks. Except for the visits to House of Male, Chiangmai and Sansuk, Pattaya, I was practically sex-less. It was a decision I took when I started my trip.

 

Yes i was on Grindr and Hornet a fair bit.. and I did get lots of attention but none materialised...

 

I agree that the fee and gratitude given by some forumers are justifiable... it is Economics 101..demand vs supply.. so continue to boost your satisfaction and the guy's wallet.. Bravo...

[vinapu]

I am constantly amazed by comments that Vinapu must be Bill Gates Cousin or very wealthy.

 

 

Just imagine if Vinapu spends 10 days and spends $200 per day (7000 baht). Add on a cheap airfare and maybe he would spent $3000. In USA that would get you 2 overnights with a Hot Looking Boy.

 

I decided to shed some light on trip  finances in view of  your comments and those you mentioned.

 

Your point is perfect. If I go to local go-go bar where I live I can have naked guy dancing in front of me for length of 1 song

/ aprox 5 mins  / and it will cost me aprox 540 baht. Sometimes he will not even allow to touch him not to mention kiss,  cuddle or hug. So 15 minutes of mostly viewing pleasure will cost me 1620 baht. Plus beer.

 

so some boring statistics below:

 

I was in Thailand 12 full days and 11 nights but paid for 12 nights since I wanted to have an access to a room on my last day when I was leaving just past midnight.

 

Airfare was 800 USD this time , cheapest I ever pay to Thailand was 519 USD, most expensive 1380 USD so it varies wildly.

 

Hotels: Raya 8 nights 538 USD, I could do it much cheaper / 412 /  but for 4 nights I decided to splurge and treat myself to boost my self-esteem, breakfast for two included.

 

Ambiance Pattaya 2 nights for less than 60 USD total with breakfast, Agoda had special and I grabbed it. It was 27.09 or 29.07 USD per night , I don't remember which one.

 

Nantra Silom 70 something  USD, I don't remember exactly but it was something between 71-79 for two nights and it was not their cheaper room, actually third from bottom in their scale whatever they call it. 

So on both Raya and Nantra it could be even cheaper without sacrificing much.  

 

I had 15 long time / 7 single and 4 double nights / and 3 short time offs plus 11 massages which cost:

6800 baht / 193 USD / in off fees,

 

8750 baht / 248 USD / in massage fees

 

69900 baht  / 1985 USD/  in tips including tip for a boy from Toy Boys which we actually did not even take home. 6000 out of this amount I consider misspent because inflated boy demands / 2 times/ , non using boy's company and hiring boy who did not perform as promised.

 

Other substantial expenses were 3500 speed boat / no idea if can be hired cheaper  but trip to Koh Larn by ferry is just 60 /

and 1600 for trip to Kanchanaburi which could be found chepaer /1200-1300/  in Silom area and probably as low as 800-1000 in Kao San area, not sure but people I met on the train told me they paid less than 2000 for two.

 

Total tips in bars were probably well below 2000, I usually tip 100 best looking boy and some show performers, some boys are getting taxi money in the morning . On another hand I spent most of my time in Tawan and I don't tip nor buy drinks for boys I offed or I'm firmly planning to off on this trip so only one boy drink there , on the first night when Alek was great unknown to me. 

 

Drinks in bars were probably 4000-5000 max. total between me and boys in tow. I did not bother to even count

 

No substantial spending on food even if I always invite boys for a dinner before going to hotel in most cases they were happy with street food including frogs and insects treats.

 

I'm low maintenance and no substantial shopping / shorts, shirt , t-shirt and rag which I promptly lost /.

 

1300 went for cleaning teeth and 200 for haircut.

 

So tips are most substantial part of expenses and biggest savings can be had there but reducing amounts and number  of encounters but as Firecat said in his post above -why on such a short trip ?

 

Hope it helps some to budget for their own trip.

[DivineMadman]

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