Guest cdnmatt Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 abidismaili, are you seriously basically defending people being racist in Western countries, because at least they're not as racist as other parts of the world? WTF is wrong with you? Quote
abidismaili Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 We have done so much good as colonialist to these countries. It is time we get what we deserve. A huge THANK YOU. Will we ever get it? By the way do not judge history with the values of our own times. White colonialists were no different from others. China has colonized most of its territory (Tibet, Uyghur, Mongolia). Turks during the Ottoman empire colonized a lot of the Middle East. When is their pay back time to accept refugees from non Muslim countries? When is Chinese payback time? When is Arab payback time? (They colonized all of the Middle East in the first centuries of Islam). Killed most Christians or forced them to convert, to the extend almost none are left there. When is pay back time for Arabs? When will they have to accept many Christian refugees? Millions of them. When? We in the West are too good for this world. We should in the West have the mentality of other countries: more self pride, more aware of your own proud history, more desire to defend it. Not a feeling of guilt. We were no different than others. We only had more power thanks to advanced technology. Imagine what the world would look like now if Islam had developed this advanced technology first. Would they have freed their colonies when modern time made colonialism not done? The Dutch colonized Indonesia for a few hundred years, but they still are Muslim. We didn't force them to become Christians. We didn't decimate them. Quote
abidismaili Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 abidismaili, are you seriously basically defending people being racist in Western countries, because at least they're not as racist as other parts of the world? WTF is wrong with you? I cant understand how you read my words like that. There can only be one reason; you want to interpreted them like that. I say it is not strange if you live in a country dominated by one race that it is not easy to get the role to play a government minister or some other roles. Only in multi cultural societies will it be possible. I can't believe Asians are discriminated against in America or other Western countries. I know no one who is racist against Asians. I know quite a few people who are racist against whites. Do you think it is likely for a white guy to be offered the role to play the Indonesian president? Most white actors in Indonesian movies play a colonialist role or are the bad guy. What about my remarks about Japan? Is this a racist country in your opinion? Far less multi cultural and far less willing to accept other races as refugees than the tolerant West. Did you read that I say the West is the least racist, the most tolerant society on Earth? You agree with that? Yet only the white guy is excused of racism. Why? Quote
Guest cdnmatt Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 OMG.... Ok, quick question. How many refugees from the Syrian crisis has Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey accepted? Quote
Guest novelle Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 People complaining about white racism should look at other cultures. You have no idea. Again: Western societies are the most free, the least racist and the most tolerant in all, all of human history. Fact!!! I was complaining about stereotyping and it so happens it was you who was stereotyping Asians. As I live in America I can only draw from my experiences here and the harmful effects of stereotyping from the dominant race which happens to be white. The point is all racist stereotyping is bad. Is it too much to ask for more sensitivity? To not make blanket statements about an entire race but to treat each individual with respect? Asking that from you must indeed be stupid. Quote
abidismaili Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 OMG.... Ok, quick question. How many refugees from the Syrian crisis has Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey accepted? My God the stupidy. These refugees are dominantly Muslim. My question was how many Jewish or Christian refugees would they accept. Please please please read carefully. Don't read what you want to read, read what I actually say. Please. I see no one has anything to say about my: 1) remarks about Japan 2) remarks how China, Turkey also were colonizing powers. And what about the Arab world? 3) remarks how despite we are not perfect, the West is the most free, least racist and most tolerant society on Earth. And yet whites are called racists. And yet the West has to defend herself. What a joke. What a hypocracy. What a stupidy and indoctrination. What a lack of the ability to think for yourself. Quote
Guest cdnmatt Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Ohhh, so those refugees don't count because they're just Muslim refugees. Got it. Quote
abidismaili Posted June 10, 2016 Author Posted June 10, 2016 Ohhh, so those refugees don't count because they're just Muslim refugees. Got it. My point was that we are very tolerant and receive many refugees despite their religion. While many other societies will not do that. Muslim countries will not accept waves and waves of Christian or Jewish refugees. Saudi Arabians and Turks and Moroccans and Pakistani would OPPOSE MASSIVELY even tens of thousands of Christian refugees ONLY because of their religion. Can I ask what your education is? You deliberately misinterpret me or you are dumb. What is it? What nice benefit that this chat reveals the true colors of some. Cdnmatt paints himself in a very unflattery way. Deliberately mis-reading, mis-interpreting the points people try to make. What a pathetic human being. Quote
firecat69 Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Wow. Talk about a thread that has gone off the rails?? paulsf and DivineMadman 2 Quote
steveboy Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 So basically you are admitting you were a coward who hid in the closet so that you won't experience discrimination. I don't know how that helps your argument but whatever...Thank God for the drag queens at Stonewall who threw the first brick and now you can live in a freer society. Unfortunately, I can't hide my slanty eyes. This is an example of white privilege ... blah blah blah... Thank you for making me reflect on my cowardice. It is true that being born in a Catholic society, sent to Catholic schools, trying to do the best my parents expected from me, I gave up a gay-style life in favor of being compliant and getting ahead. I also gave up on riding motorcycles, skydiving, mountain climbing, unprotected sex, alcohol, drugs, tasty food, all out of fear of damaging my health. Now I get to live the consequences of my "cowardice" with a joyful life in perfect health, financial independence, after having helped and supported many people. You may want to reflect and think if being careful, dedicated and smart is to be a coward. You want to hide your slanted eyes? Why is it that we always want to be like the people we are attracted to? I don't believe that having an Asian appearance, an Asian stylish body, is a handicap! If it would be possible, I would consider swapping Caucasian for Asian... (but not if it comes with your insecurity and resentment) Depending on who you are, one can be affected by "White privilege". But here in a cosmopolitan city in the US there are plenty of Asians who came from overseas with valuable skills or at least determination, surrounded by a much larger group of "White trash". And, like Abidismaili also commented, here are strong anti-discrimination laws in effect. Compare the situation in progressive Western countries with life a few hundred years ago all over the world, and today the White race is not as guilty as you may think. Quote
steveboy Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Wow. Talk about a thread that has gone off the rails?? Aren't rails old-fashioned? Today we have wide roads and highways with rest stops, scenic detours, nearby attractions, all making a long travel more enjoyable. Quote
firecat69 Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Maybe but at least you can't go over the cliff so easily. What was this thread about? Quote
steveboy Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Maybe but at least you can't go over the cliff so easily. What was this thread about? Just one misaligned piece of rail or something hard crossed over it, and the whole thing jumps the rails and ends who knows where. I drive over potholes every day but my four wheels stay on the ground. This thread started about people coming to Thailand for better sex, and it seems that we are still on track. We just made a stop at White Station. Quote
firecat69 Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Quite a long stop but that is life on a Board. Quote
Guest novelle Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 You want to hide your slanted eyes? Why is it that we always want to be like the people we are attracted to? I don't believe that having an Asian appearance, an Asian stylish body, is a handicap! If it would be possible, I would consider swapping Caucasian for Asian... (but not if it comes with your insecurity and resentment) For the record, I'm very happy about my eyes. You completely missed the point. Quote
steveboy Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 For the record, I'm very happy about my eyes. You completely missed the point. You wrote: "Unfortunately, I can't hide my slanty eyes." You cannot hide them under clothes, not even with a burka, but it's easy with big sunglasses. And now you are very happy with them, but you still want to hide them? Strange... So what is the point? Quote