Bob Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 What can one say when a poster makes comments like "You fucking asked a question.." and then, 6 hours later, claims he was trying to have a "very peaceful and calm discussion..." What the hell, at least it provided my chuckle of the morning. Restoration of some of Allen's work has brought back mostly happy memories for me.....so thanks for that. And Allen, wherever you are, put your broom down and take it easy as you have no obligation to use your moderation broom to sweep this thread clean! williewillie, TotallyOz and llz 3 Quote
vinapu Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Side note: may be my reply sounds rude, nothing rude in your response williewillie 1 Quote
vinapu Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 You fucking asked a question about paying for his works. this is rude williewillie and llz 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 nothing rude in your response How about? "but cause you are just fuckin rude." Is that called pot calling kettle black? And, just as a side note, I use the word fucking all the time. I'm a New Yorker for most of my life and using that is not offensive to me. And, again, I do not think I was being rude until I was asked are you kidding? How many times do I need to repeat myself before it is acceptable to use the word fucking? 2 times? 4 times? 6 times? Guidelines please. I fucking want to know! Quote
vinapu Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 How many times do I need to repeat myself before it is acceptable to use the word fucking? 2 times? 4 times? 6 times? Guidelines please. I fucking want to know! 3 times but during Lent 5 fucking times I guess TotallyOz, Phet and t0oL1 3 Quote
Moses Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 I'm a New Yorker for most of my life and using that is not offensive to me. Ok, let's see. So, fucking New Yorker, tell me: do you really think "If word isn't rude for me, then it isn't rude for all people"? williewillie and Phet 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Ok, let's see. So, fucking New Yorker, tell me: do you really think "If word isn't rude for me, then it isn't rude for all people"? No, but I do think if the word is rude for you then you do not need to be creating websites that deal with moneyboys (or moneyboys fucking) in Thailand. Isn't that fucking simple? I mean, hey, you create sites for prostitutes and what do they do for money? They fuck. I don't find it fucking offensive at all. But, if you do, may I suggest the Betty Crocker website? Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Ok, let's see. So, fucking New Yorker, tell me: do you really think "If word isn't rude for me, then it isn't rude for all people"? p.s. you lost any moral high ground you thought you had with your last 2 posts. Welcome to the gutter. Quote
Guest ronnie4you Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Wow. It is so nice to see so many people log in to "like" other posts. I'll have to be bluntly honest more often. While I am in the minority, I do believe that if you owe a site you own the rights to the content forever and for someone to dig up old stuff to post is wrong. That said, since GayButton and Surfcrest are OK with it, I have started backing up their sites just in case they pass gently into the good night and that way, we will be able to save all those conversations forever. (just kidding guys, I would never do that) How can a dead person own anything? He can leave it to his estate, but then they own it. If he did not make provisions to leave it to anyone, I suggest that he abandoned it. We cannot let gay history just evaporate. So I think Moses is doing the right thing here by helping to preserve history. He is not, as I understand it, claiming that this is his work. It's not a big moneymaker. So I see him as doing a service. When Hooboy died, his family could have profited from his escort-related website, but they chose not to. It died and that history is gone. At least I don't know how to resurrect it. But one couldn't, in that case, because we know it is owned by the estate. That does not seem to be the case with the material Moses is working with. I would be fine with someone pointing out that I am wrong, but you wouldn't have to say I was "fucking wrong!' Thank you! Just say that I am totally wrong, or partially wrong, and why. Then we can discuss it nicely. Quote
Guest ronnie4you Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Not to be rude, but who wants to take care of someone in their dying days? Not many. I had an aunt died a few years back that was beloved by the entire family and only 3 out of 15 of us took time to help her in the last years of her life even though she helped every one of us. Many could not do it and it did not mean they didn't love her or she them. Some are just incapable of watching this happen to someone and I don't begrudge them what they had when they were livelier. Some of us believe that old phrase "In sickness and in health." I know that I do. However, I am not speaking here of commercial relationships. In that case, whatever is offered is a bonus. People do have gratitude for employment or other opportunities and may choose to reward by helping out in troubled times for the employer. Quote
vinapu Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 No, but I do think if the word is rude for you then you do not need to be creating websites that deal with moneyboys (or moneyboys fucking) in Thailand. Isn't that fucking simple? I mean, hey, you create sites for prostitutes and what do they do for money? They fuck. I don't find it fucking offensive at all. But, if you do, may I suggest the Betty Crocker website? they fuck , right , but we still can be polite in their presence. Prostitution is job like any other with benefit of working in less dusty conditions DivineMadman 1 Quote
Moses Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 No, but I do think if the word is rude for you then you do not need to be creating websites that deal with moneyboys (or moneyboys fucking) in Thailand. Isn't that fucking simple? I mean, hey, you create sites for prostitutes and what do they do for money? They fuck. I don't find it fucking offensive at all. But, if you do, may I suggest the Betty Crocker website? You are old pervert. You even didn't visit sites to read at each "Terms and conditions". Do you think everyone is the same way perverted as you are? Each site has clear declarations Sex: Can I buy your time for “special” services?We don’t sell our bodies. We are the companions, not a prostitutes. Can I have sex with you?Sorry, it isn’t rent-a-boy or dating website. We don’t offer and don’t provide any sexual service. Here Does your offer of Thai Massge include some "special service" ("happy end")? Almost everywhere at streets of city you can find "massage" with "happy ending", but almost nowhere you will find The Thai Massage. If you want The Thai Massage then I will be happy to serve you — just call me Here CAN I ASK COMPANION TO PROVIDE “ADDITIONAL” SERVICE? Yes. You can ask almost everything what can help You in your particular needs: to order bus ticket or taxi, to call to some place and talk with people, to help You with your luggage and other such routine: it’s their job — to make your life on holidays easy and smooth. For example you can ask your Companion to bring some food from supermarket or even to wash your clothes (Companion will find good laundry and place order there)… …but: *** “Almost everything” doesn’t include any sexual services. Companions and our site don’t provide any sexual service. here and so on... but thank you for opportunity to mention sites Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 You are old pervert. You even didn't visit sites to read at each "Terms and conditions". Do you think everyone is the same way perverted as you are? Each site has clear declarations Here Here here and so on... but thank you for opportunity to mention sites You are a fool. Every escort agency in NYC has the same terms. Do you honestly believe that 400 an hour is just for time and companionship? Get real! You are most welcome to mention your sites as you seem to in your signature anyway. Why would that bother me in the least? I want your friends to get work and to ply their trade. I am all for that as well as every act that gives a Thai boy the chance to earn money. It is good for them. I want that to continue. Your guys work in bars for sex. Your sites advertise them as tour guides. I know people who have hired them and fucked them. I am OK with that. But, don't tell me you are uncomfortable with the word fucking. Quote
Moses Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 You are a fool. Every escort agency in NYC has the same terms. Do you honestly believe that 400 an hour is just for time and companionship? Get real! You are most welcome to mention your sites as you seem to in your signature anyway. Why would that bother me in the least? I want your friends to get work and to ply their trade. I am all for that as well as every act that gives a Thai boy the chance to earn money. It is good for them. I want that to continue. Your guys work in bars for sex. Your sites advertise them as tour guides. I know people who have hired them and fucked them. I am OK with that. But, don't tell me you are uncomfortable with the word fucking. You better know prices in NY for sure, but fool here is you: "do you believe" what 175 baht per hour or 700 baht per tour is price of prostitution? http://bkktour.info/index.php/temple-of-reclining-buddha/ Try to catch them in bar then... One is designer for Agoda, second is student in last year in UNI at hospitality and tourism faculty, both spend full summer vacation, paid and obtain officially license for guides. Again advise: you have to stop put yourself to their place and think "What I will do on their place?". They aren't you, you forgot this "small" detail. Then call their nicknames here and we will see what they will say. Few members of this forum were clients. Lets listen them. Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 You better know prices in NY for sure, but fool here is you: "do you believe" what 175 baht per hour or 700 baht per tour is price of prostitution? I've seen less per hour. If you do a 1500 baht short time for 10 hours, can you tell me what the rate per hour is? I know you don't speak English well. But, math is usually done the same around the world. (to help even further, 150 per hour) Damn, your boys are charging a premium. They must be high end! Quote
Alexx Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 It has become quite painful to read that exchange. Seriously, is that really necessary? I'd think you both - Michael & Moses, in alphabetical order - have good intentions, just let each other live if possible... TotallyOz and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 And, as now I have dragged you into the gutter with me and we have rolled around for a bit throwing shit at each other, let me say once again: I am OK with what the boys do. If you are OK with taking Alen's work and using it, go for it. Why even care what I have to say? That said, I still believe everything I said. I know you believe everything you said. We disagree. So, in the desire for peace, I really hope you didn't take this disagreement personally. I hold no ill will at all for being called a fucker and a fool. I felt like getting into a taxi in NYC and only giving a 3 dollar tip. Best of luck to you in all your endeavors. Seriously! traveller123 and KhorTose 2 Quote
Moses Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 That said, I still believe everything I said. I know you believe everything you said. We disagree. So, in the desire for peace, I really hope you didn't take this disagreement personally. I hold no ill will at all for being called a fucker and a fool. I felt like getting into a taxi in NYC and only giving a 3 dollar tip. Best of luck to you in all your endeavors. Seriously! sure... I use that pseudo-scandal just to keep news about reports at first line of GT-forum... by the way: 1999 has been restored, I'm working with Jan'2000 now traveller123 and KhorTose 2 Quote
forky123 Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Well. I have hired one of the tour guides from one of the sites on my first visit to Bangkok. He was an exceptional tour guide, translator and organiser. He was not using it as a cover for plying prostitution. He spent long hours during the day showing me many of the tour sites and providing an excellent history. In the evening he took me to the shows and it was great to be able to watch without being pestered by anyone. He spent lots of time trying to find what I was interested in and pointing out boys that might suit me. At no point did he try to sell himself. I think you do boys a disservice with your rude and disrespectful assumptions Michael. Moses and ChristianPFC 2 Quote
Moses Posted February 18, 2016 Author Posted February 18, 2016 Old website "Albury Men's Club Bangkok" as is was April 16, 1998 Quote
TotallyOz Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I think you do boys a disservice with your rude and disrespectful assumptions Michael. Maybe they just liked me better than they liked you? Quote
Gaybutton Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Old website "Albury Men's Club Bangkok" as is was April 16, 1998 When I see photos of boys from years ago, I can't help but wonder whatever became of them - like a "Where Are They Now?" article. Many boys I used to like and often see have vanished. My guess is most of them ended up back on the rice farm. Moses 1 Quote
Moses Posted February 18, 2016 Author Posted February 18, 2016 This site touched me a lot: it has fantastic, brilliant design for 1999. Sauna Heaven, 1999. Quote
