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  1. Guys, I have a question on off-fee structure at BoyzBoyzBoyz in Pattaya - maybe someone can help to clarify this? I spent a week in Pattaya in the early April and offed from BBB the same guy four times. From the first day the guy started telling me, that the off fee is 1000 baht before the show and 500 baht after. We are connected at Line and I wanted to go to the cinema - so suggest him to take him from the bar around 20:00. The guy suggested to go to the cinema during the daytime and then he go to his bar and I can come to the bar after the show and off him. But I stay at Jomtien and it sounds a bit complicated, so I just came to the BBB before show, had asked a tout about the off price (500 baht), then went inside and met the guy - he had a couple of the words in Thai with a captain and repeated this "1000 before show" statement. I thought "bullshit", but said "very well, but I pay 500". After some discussion I paid 500 to the bar and 100 to the captain and we went out. No drinks as I knew the guy and did not want to sit inside the bar. First time I offed this guy in December (500 and it was before the show), that time he asked for 4000 for overnight - a bit pricy, but proved to be a great night (because of this I knew certainly who I wanted in BBB). So I decided this "1000 baht" idea was just another way to get more money from me. But that was the case for the whole week - the guy kept telling me "I pay to the bar these second 500 baht by myself next day, when I come to work". I tried to mention to him that I was not the 1st or 2nd time in Thailand and particularly I had been to BBB about 5 times before meeting him in December - so I know things a little bit (he has been working there since August-September 2015). For the 3rd off another waiter - before talking to the guy - gave me a receipt for 800 (yes, not 1000 baht). I said "500" and finally paid 500 again. Of course, I mentioned "not 1000 now?" - my guy explained, that the bosses decided for 800 now, not for 1000 For the 4th off I prepared 300 baht in different pocket. This time all was the same - they quoted 800, I contradicted with 500. But there was a higher manager there as well - he came to us and said about 800 as the off-fee before 23:00. My guy repeated about keeping returning money to the bar at next day by himself - so I gave him these 300 (3*100 baht), he took something from it (100?) and gave the rest to the manager. The manager said something about this guy being a coyote now comparing with December (coyotes in BBB?!) and something about his salary... Are they tried to get a missing drink price (500+300) from me or something else? They try to save more guys until the show? In the same trip I took two guys from the entrance to ToyBoys (without going inside, ToyBoys is famous for having more muscled guys as touts than boys inside) - all 3 times there was no a smallest attempt to add a drink price to their 400 baht off-fee... Would be great to hear your opinions on this
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