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Before I start, first I would like to thank you all for sharing your experience and views on this forum, this seems to be the blog everyone should read before coming to Thailand no matter how experience they are. I now feel so stupid not having done so before my travel but mistake corrected and now I do and therefore thought to share mine too. Second, a very special thanks to DivineMadam and Vinapu, you guys seem to have lot and lot experience and thanks to all your posting and recommendations, not only I was able to correct my mistakes (details will follow later) but was able to enjoy the time after having, which I call not a healthy start. Okay, now little background about my trip, last year I traveled to BKK with my friend from Singapore who kinda introduced me to Soi 4 and after bar hopping and having splendid time at DJ Station & GOD, I gathered some courage to offer one boy on my second night at Dream Boys, it was so so experience but not bad for a one-night fun. This all led me to plan my next trip and knowing my friends can’t spend so many days with me here in BKK we planned our itinerary as below. Trip Date: 27th till 29th (3 nights of my own) 30th till 1st (me and my friend) 2nd till 4th (3 more nights of my own) Continue...

Heading to Chiang Mai in January. I've not been for a few years. Any recommendations? It looks like Adam's Apple still going. Any others worth checking out?

I am interested to hear how other members stay in touch with their favourite boys and set up repeat meetings on later trips. On my last visit, I collected a couple of Line contacts from boys who made an impression. Since then I have been receiving a steady stream of stickers, “how are yous” and the occasional selfies every few days. I respond to each message with matching levels of enthusiasm but without being overly effusive. My question is, do boys actively try to bring back a good customer they liked and actually remember who they are amongst the hundreds of offs? Or is this just an effective form of marketing that they do for every customer? The attention is flattering but I am trying not to read more into this than it is. I can imagine they wake up in the morning, and go to “work” - sending out stickers, smilies and the same selfie to every single customer in their little black book. I know for a fact the boy who stays in touch the most is very popular and I am just one punter amongst many. Toying with the idea of booking him in advance for my next trip but also wouldn’t want to plan my schedule around a misplaced sense of loyalty to a boy who possibly wont know me from Adam if we passed each other in the street. My second question - and sorry for the lengthy post - will boys agree to meet outside bars? Eg skip work and meet me at a non gogo bar or at my hotel? I may not be in the mood to sit through a whole show, knowing already who I will off. Do I offer to compensate for the bar fine and loss of show earnings on top of tip? My friend who has a Dreamboy regular usually “reserves” him over Line but will go to the bar, pay the cover, off fee and sit through part of the show before leaving with him. Given I have very limited time, a more efficient method that is also acceptable to the boy would be ideal.

Has anyone stayed in Hua Hin recently? I have a friend that has just returned (not gay so no good info) that says it's a great place. Good food, clean beaches not as tourisy as Pattaya ( ie no touts for massage etc) I can only see a couple of gay bars (old info). Whats a good area to look for accommodation? Any recommendations? Anyone had luck on hornet etc? I might like a couple of nights there next trip. Near the beach and gay bar if possible

Was back to Bali for the first time in around ten years. I have to be honest i didn't really enjoy the gay scene the first time and felt it was the same or worse this trip. The couple of bars are over run by drag shows and there are only a couple of places to go. The selection of guys for me wasn't great but if you like more macho types or hunky it might be for you. I am a twink lover and find it pretty lacking in that regard compared to Thailand. There are one or two diamonds in the rough but few and far between. I don't mean to sound like a downer Bali is a beautiful place to visit and has a lot to offer but as far as the gay scene if this is one of the higher priorities on your to do list you may be disappointed. I also found the boys sort of pester you in the bars even if you do your best to not make eye contact or show any interest. One night looking at the bars was enough for me. The gay beach was pretty dead as well and not much to report there. In that area is a small gay guesthouse called zenformen. The owners were really friendly and they have a small pool and the rooms are small but looked nice enough. They are a good source of information should you happen to be in the area. The pool is in a courtyard and has paintings of naked men with big cocks on the walls around the seating area. i am guessing if you had some company with you that the pool could probably become a very worthwhile way of having some small private parties. I already had a pool villa in Seminyak that was very lovely so my partner and I just had a staycation as we aren't really big into the beach. There are some fantastic restaurants around and I recommend the Slippery Stone in particular for a small spurge. The settings inside are like a Greek palace the place is pretty incredible. It isn't cheap but it isn't over the top expensive either. It is Greek food they serve and i would get the mixed grill and let the owner recommend things. He knows he to do the real deal and all of his stuff is pretty good. So as you can see my rant about a restaurant is about as long as my thoughts about the entire gay scene. Lovely place and worthwhile destination but bring a Thai boy in speedos and rent a pool villa. The architecture of some of the villas i stayed in is some of the best you will find in the world and good value for the price. The Balinese are very hospitable and I was pampered very well in my week in Bali. Most of the villas will actually have a cook prepare breakfast in your room made to order and I really enjoyed that touch. The eating scene in Seminyak is quite good as well. Not much else to add we just stayed in the villa, lounged in the pool ordered Japanese snacks from the restaurant to our room and picked a new place each night for dinner. Sounds boring on paper but it was a hell of a good time. I like Bali much more than many parts of Thailand gay scene aside. I spent one night in a villa near Ubud which was lovely but a tad too isolated. Again if you bring your own company maybe it would be great but if you aren't driving staying in an isolated place however how beautiful it is may get costly ordering all your food and drinks from your hotel. I found the price of car with drivers to be relatively expensive for distances travelled. i think Bali is a place to go with a decent budget i wouldn't want to slum it. Alcohol and wine is rather pricey as well, beer is still cheap. Feel free to ask any questions if you have any.

Just got back from a brief trip to Jomtien Beach for the weekend. I have never been a Pattaya fan and until this trip i just didn't understand the place. I must say this was one of the funnest trips i have ever had in Thailand. Or at least in the past decade or so. Where to start? Jomtien Complex wasn't too busy but not eerily deserted. I hate being the only customers in a bar and being sized up by all the boys. Most of the places on the main strip had some customers and it seemed just right to me. The price of the drinks is an absolute bargain. I live in Bangkok at the moment and have basically abandoned going to Soi Twilight because it is so expensive and it just doesn't seem so friendly these days. I prefer the company of Thai boys vs. VN or Cambodian guys and the fact I speak Lao a fair amount makes all of those Issan twinks nice for me to talk to in JT complex. I am a fan of the beer bar or terrace bar much more than gogos. In this sense JT is a great place for me. I tried Sunnee awhile ago but it seemed pretty dead Boyztown isn't my thing. JT in comparison seems relatively vibrant. The selection of twinks is pretty good. I love a twink with a nice pliable, bubble butt. There are plenty of these types to choose from. I stayed at Poseidon at the entrance of the main soi. I really enjoyed it there. I felt they really made me feel at home. The owner Heiko is a very friendly guy and all of the staff were as well, sometimes hilariously so. I said I can be a bit shy and he and a bunch of his German friends laughed and told me some of their antics, there was a feeling of camaraderie. The rooms are nice enough traditional sort of artsy fartsy boutique hotel furnishing. I mean that in a good way there is a sense of style there. The service is fantastic and you do not need to feel shy about taking guests here. And that is where we get to the part everybody reading a Pattaya report wants to read. The pool is very small but in an indoor air conditioned room with a small bar. In the day time it looks abandoned (of course this is low season so don't know how it is during the peak) but as their website discreetly informs you they are very friendly to guests and you can bring anybody you want to join you. Okay so what could possibly make a small indoor pool such a big detail in the reason I chose this place? Well my partner figured the formula out for this. Go out around the complex and round up about 4 available twink power bottoms, make sure they have speedos and bring them in to the pool after bar closing. We had the pool to ourselves and the really funny manager Lucky was installed to babysit us and keep our glasses topped up. I can not stress enough how funny and crazy Lucky is. He isn't my type or a twink but I can see he understands what I do like. He is just genuinely good company and a really playful light hearted man. He isn't an imposing presence and as soon as he comes in with the boys he makes it very clear you don't need to be shy just because he is there. He also drank and swam with us. Because he joined in the fun i felt much less apprehensive. He became more of a friend than some random staff member observing us. As far as the twinks go, now you are in the jacuzzi being served and surrounded by very friendly boys with sultry dick sucking lips and asses that are going to need to be accommodated at some point. My partner was drunk so I got a boy to go buy some kamagra gell for him to eat and he sat there the entire time with a hard on plopping out of his trunks with a twink on his lap with a big shit eating grin. He had never tried kamagra or viagra before. The boys were playful enough and although nothing too hard core happened in the pool area got a nice set of photos that are pretty horny for a souvenir. It could have probably got much more wild but I am not really into sex in public. Obviously if you aren't in the pool alone late at night you might exercise discretion depending on the vibe and who is around. One really cute boy was in the jacuzzi grinding his speedo clad ass into my partners willing face though, so it was close to becoming a bit heavier. If these guys are just doing it for the money they are very good actors because all of them were hard and demanding pretty constant attention. i guess with 4 of them around and only two farang, competition is a good thing. Lucky's BF showed up at some point, another nice Thai guy and they seemed amused at the circus atmosphere that had sprouted up. At some point Lucky went into the kitchen and brought out some plates of smoked salmon and sashimi with salad. There was a birthday party in the restaurant earlier and I assume it was left over from that but it was comped so it was a very nice gesture. It was also very good. We were spending pretty freely and the atmosphere was amazing so I am not sure if this would be normal or if they upped the service a notch because we were spending. I am guessing some combination of both. They have a great selection of wine at pretty good prices for a place in Thailand. I think we were paying just north of 1,000 Baht a bottle. But of course with 6 horny guys swimming we worked up a thirst so it does add up if you drink 6 bottles. lol In hindsight I might have suggested the boys drank beer to economize but you only live once. By this time i had other more pressing matters on my mind than my wallet anyway. We had a one bedroom suite and next time I will get the two bedroom. My poor back and knees had problems fucking the boy on a hard tile floor. They did bring a duvet and pillows for me as I explained the situation to them. Again Lucky seemed amused at my predicament, in a good way. My partner met me when I was myself a twink and we are an old married couple so we prefer to use and abuse boys in privacy apart from one another. The boy I ended up with was a hungry power bottom and that suits me just fine. At some point in the evening he was riding and grinding on it so hard I began to feel slightly used like I was simply some human dildo installed in the room only for his amusement. I quickly got over the shame of this. I don't have any idea of his name or if he is on GR or Grindr but Big kiss bar always had one or two twinks there. That is where I found him. Just look for the twink with the come fuck me eyes and he is easily spotted. Eating recommendation near there is Pastrami on Rye. Nothing satisfies a hunger inducing session of sodomy more than a pastrami sandwich. It is a match made in heaven. lol The car from Poseidon is good and the driver played western music at a tolerable level. it was also very spacious and comfortable. don't remember the make but it was a nice car and good service. Probably a couple hundred Baht more than you can get a car for elsewhere but no haggling and door to door service. I was feeling a bit queasy from the previous nights antics so appreciated the comfort. So the lessons I learned about the Pattaya area have made me change my mind about the place. My formula is like this. 1. Stay a shorter time but live better 2. Stay in a place that encourages and embraces your perversity. The hotel did not make me feel shy no matter what. Believe it or not I am a shy guy. I would never dream of dragging a crew such as this into my Bangkok condo. 3. Budget enough for the time you are in Pattaya to act on whatever deviant impulse you have and not worry. 4. Don't go to often. Simple point here if you go too often it is the same boys who get clingy and it would get old. I plan to visit maybe once every three months. 5. Even if you can get a hard on make sure to have viagra or kamagra so you can avoid whiskey dick. I find with myself I am actually a bit horny recounting this tale but i can have issues when demanded to perform. Condoms as well this should be self explanatory in this day and age. 6. Do not wake up before 2 PM. 7. The temples are great and so is the golf? lol My new budget for Pattaya is around $500 a day but I live in Bangkok so I can go anytime for just a weekend of filth and sleaze. This is a bit excessive and of course you can live on way less but the weekend I have just had was a lot of fun. This is enough to not even have to question your choice of meal, how many boys, or where you will stay with in reason. This is also for two people on a short holiday. Don't let my price estimate deter you, for what we got it was a bargain. This level of drunken, carousing, buffoonery in Bangkok would cost substantially more. It was like our 20 year honeymoon. I think I would get bored in Jomtien if I stayed any longer than a couple of days. None of it is all that expensive in and of itself it is just a question of how ridiculous/flamboyant you want to be. 1. Room: 2,600 that's a single room suite next time I would do the 2 bedroom suite for 4,000. so that is 8,000 for the weekend. 2. Boys: 300 each off fee and i tip the ones who stay 2,000 and the ones that don't 500. So that's 4,600 on this occasion. 3 Food: around 2,000 Baht a day for two people. 4. drinks: how long is a string? With wine and 6 people around 8,000 Baht a day. With wine even if the bottle is only 1,000 Baht each round is two bottles with that number of people. 5. limo service: 1,800 Baht as i said it is a nice care and you can get cheaper. So round trip was around 3,600 to central Bangkok, the airport is cheaper. 6. misc.: 500-1,000 Baht a day. Thats the basic break down of how the weekend went by price just to show how I arrived at the numbers I gave earlier. I am looking forward to doing my birthday party down there in October. So that's my trip report and i hope it wasn't too graphic for the sensitive virgin ears of this forums readers. It is the best gay holiday I have had in over a decade. Next time I would waste less money and time shopping around the soi and get some beverages in the room to save a bit.

Inspired by today's posts by new poster kalabao55 / welcome to the forum ! / in Gay business section. You are visiting massage or bar for the first time steered there by favorable feedback and for some reason you are disappointed with boy, service, whatever. What is your strategy in such a case? Would you complain to somebody in charge, haggle about reducing price or just go away quietly, posting your negative feedback somewhere like forum . Will you give them another chance or swear to never return ? After all somebody before you was happy, it' s likely why you went there, on another hand your experience is not a good one. I'm curious what you guys do , will post my answer separately below