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There were few Farang when I was at Chakran, they were older than me, but I didn't pay attention to them, so I don't know for sure.

VW or the end of the Iron Curtain? Both directly linked to the National Socialism and Hitler. I would go as far as to say that every political event after 1933 can be linked to these.

I was laughing, does this make me a bad person? I think owning and using a gun should be restricted to people who need them for work: policemen, forest rangers and soldiers.

I never saw these before, I'm glad I missed this trend and I hope it is over.

I agree with most of what HeyGay/LMTU said. However Jupiter 2002 (not 2003) has it's boys on stage in shirts (shirtless during the show, but without numbers as far as I remember). Not what I am looking for in a gogo bar. And the Royal Palace / Saran Rom are is not suitable for first time visitors. From my few visits there (and what I read on the net), boys speak very little English, so it's advisable to speak Thai. And even worse, the number of boys can vary significantly, every time I was there it was hardly worth the time to get there and back.

I go to Chakran on every holiday in Thailand (which is twice per year), and I always enjoy it, even though I don't get laid most of the visits. These daily themes have been going on for a while, and they force me to come on specific days (I love underwear, naked is ok, masks are a complete turn off for me). Furthermore I found out on my recent visit that on weekends every guest receives two small towels (they have about 3/4 of my waist circumference, to it takes some skill to use both towels to wrap around my waist and constant re-arranging), whereas on weekdays large towels are available (you can get them on weekends for a fee?) - well, I think some Farang I see would have problems to wrap the one large towel around their waist as well. LOL So I have to remember to bring my own large towel when I go to Chakran after Chatuchak weekend market (which fits well regarding time and location). I wondered what the Group Masturbation Show is (the Thai text simply translates as "Group Show").

I wonder that nothing relating to Hitler and the Second World War or Soviet Russia is in the list. 6. Che Guevara 7. Napalmed and Naked (this is the famous Vietnam War photo of the naked little girl fleeing a napalm attack) are minor incidents compared to Hitler and the Second World War or Soviet Russia. Just look at the recent outrage about the students in Chiang Mai in Nazi uniforms. But I can't think of any iconic picture of this time (maybe the Red Army rising their flag on the Reichstag - comparable to the picture from Iwo Jima, but the event was of much greater importance - Berlin versus a minor island in the Pacific). Now after reading the "Most read threads" let me add the picture of a man in a circle with four arms and legs by Leonardo da Vince and the Apple logo (apple with bite), if I remember correcly Apple was recently valued the most valuable brand?

I have the € sign on my keyboard, but I prefer E or EUR (and USD, GBP, THB). Getting up at 4 am (and back to sleep 15 min later) is no problem, for 20 EUR I would do it every day! The same is true for me. However you have an active influence on the hotel price (by searching a cheaper hotel), whereas my investment decisions (e.g. bying stocks or precious metals) are subject to arbitrary fluctuations in the market, buying or selling in the morning can make a difference of 1% compared to bying or selling in the afternoon, but I have no influence on it, so it's not worth thinking about it.

I do all my booking online. I read somewhere that the website records your request and if you come back, it increases the price. I used opodo for most bookings, because I like the +-1 day flexibility. However, I am flexible over up to two weeks, and finally I found a website that gives prices for a seven-day range: bravofly.com And then I found that a flight that costs 854E on opodo costs only 832E on govoyages.com plus a booking fee that depends on the time of the day you book and is up to 20E. However, this booking fee is 0E between 4am and 6am (time in France), so I set my alarm clock and got up at 4am to book the flight! Booking flights always takes time, check prices over weeks, optimize price and times of departure and return (I prefer to fly over night, from Paris to Bangkok and back as well), optimizing stop overs (because these flights are usually cheaper than direct flights). Now the booking for my next holiday is done, so I can sleep in peace!

I went there once, and I saw only massage boys. I thought it would be clear that when I go to a gay massage parlor and pick a boy I find cute, that I want special service. I got a good massage, but nothing more.

I know a boy from a host bar in Sunee who not long ago moved to Bangkok because he has 20000 Baht dept with someone in Sunee and can't pay it back (he borrowed the money for the funeral of a relative). So he simply fled Pattaya and stays with friends in Bangkok. I met him in Bangkok, we did some sightseeing and as he was broke, I gave him 1000 Baht. He didn't know how to use buses in Bangkok, so I showed him my Bangkok bus map and told him which bus will dirctly take him to the area where he stays. But he prefered to go by taxi! A week later, he called and wanted to meet me again (because he had just 20 Baht left). Sorry, but he doesn't take my advice, I won't help him again (at least not until my next holiday in Thailand).

I don't understand this. Why do you want to enjoy something you don't like? You wouldn't start smoking and try to enjoy it as a non-smoker or get a tattoo and try to like it. Same for me. When in Thailand, I sometimes drink up to one bottle of beer (because it costs the same as any other drink in bars), but then I need something different. I have been drunk once, and that's enough for my life. As I don't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks I tried, I figured out that it's better to drink a small amount of something with a high contents of alcohol than a lot of something with a low contents. I overdid it, ending in coordination problems and vomiting. However the effects of feeling happy as described by others failed to appear, I just had problems keeping my balance, but my mind was completely clear. I like grapes, but I don't like wine or raisins. Making wine or raisins is turning something good (grapes) into something bad.

There is also the "Moonhouse" (restaurant and guesthouse) if I remember correctly adjacend to "The Full". Last winter, on one occasion I noticed the following: "Moonhouse" was full and "The Full" was empty. LOL. And not to forget Lido Italian Restaurant and Pizzeria! I like Italian food and if after some days of Thai food only I want to eat Farang food, this is the place to go for me (if I'm in the area).

Definitely! When I go to gogo bars, I note down numbers of boys which are my type, but which I don't want to take now for various reasons, in order to come back later the same holiday or to know for my next holiday which bar has the highest number of cute boys. Unfortunately, by then many of then work somewhere else. Many other areas of life where I find it difficult to come to a decision, usually I'm overwhelmed by choice. For example buying toilet paper. There is an entire aile in the supermarked with dozens of different brands of toilet paper. The only way out is to buy the cheapest. Recently I bought a WLan card (10 EUR, about 420 THB) for my laptop on ebay, it took me weeks to come to a decision and I sped probably two hours spread over many days until I finally settled for a model because there is an overwhelming choice and I have no previous experience with WLan. Fortunately, I have no problems what to wear for the day or ight. I just grab into my cupboard and take what's on top. This seems to be a favorite problem for women: cupboards full of clothes and yet nothing to wear.

I had a look inside, even sat down and made a choice of massage and masseur. But then the manager told me that expected minimum tip for 1,5h massage (my choice) is 1500 THB and for 2h massage 2000 THB, in addition to 700 THB for 1,5h massage (don't remember which kind of massage I wanted) I quickly calculated that this will be fare more expensive than I had thought and excused myself. The major problem was rather that none of the masseurs was really my type, otherwise I would have stayed and paid. So I can't say anything about their rooms or quality of massage.

I do prefer Pattaya more and more. On each holiday, I stop in Bangkok (as this is where my holidays begin end end) for some days and go to Pattaya for some days. Pattaya has a higher density of available boys than Bangkok, the prices (hotel, drinks) are cheaper, there is less felt air pollution (I have no numbers and no health problems, but the sheer number of cars, people and cooking with open fire in Bangkok must create air pollution). Bangkok has a larger choice of day time activities, but there is enough to see around Pattaya as well. Samui (visited once) and Chiang Mai (visited once) dont't have enough choice of boys in bar (I'm very picky), but with a boyfriend it would be fine.

I read a while ago that there are more overweight people in developed countries than there are people who suffer from hunger in poor countries.

I prefer Chakran over Babylon. It's similar in size, but there are more Asians. On every visit, I saw at least one I liked, but this was rarely mutual. There is a massage palour (V-Club) in the same building, which has a large choice (I think there were more than 30 masseurs available, all in street clothes). It's not that far away from the Silom area. From BTS Aree about 10 minutes by foot to the sauna. If you go by taxi, I guess about 30 min from Silom area.

I always round up to the next ten Baht. I don't tip extra during slow traffic or heavy rain, there is a counter for time spend standing (or driving slower than 5 km/h if I remember correclty), so this is already included in the fare. I never accept "flat fares". So far, I had no problems with a driver not finding my destination. When alone, I often take a bus, when with a friend we almost always take a taxi. Tuk-tuk or motorcycle only in rare cases (as they cost as much as a taxi and I hate negotiating the fare).

Our tastes may differ, but I find the underwear boys wear in bars where they can wear what they want much more attractive than when the underwear is provided by the bar. I fully agree with gaybutton: let the boys wear the underwear they like!

I was there I think twice, and I agree with Michael: I don't get their business model: I saw cute boys in the massage parlor on street level, but only when they were entering or leaving. And there were no prices displayed last time I was there. Do they want me as a customer to inquire prices and ASK to see the boys? Furthermore, as I was lingering around unsure what to do, an older Thai man (the manager?) who obviously belonged to the business approached me and asked what I was waiting for and told me to go away. But despite these experiences, I think there are some talents, and what I read here is promising, so Super A is on top of my list of bars to visit when I'm back.

No need to do so, this thread is great, you can throw everything you have in your diary at us! Michael, you mentioned your bike trip before. Did you write somewhere about it in detail?

Which would make smoking un-affordable for the broad public. The impact of smoking-related diseases and accidents caused under the influence of alcohol are huge. In my opinion, there are two kinds of people who support smoking: those who are addicted and those who are involved in the tobacco industry. The addicted are not to blame, as they are addicted. The lobbyists are to blame. Unfortunately, the non-smokers have no lobby. If one could stop children/teenagers from starting to smoke, smoking would slowly die out (as I can't imagine that any sane adult who did not smoke before starts smoking)

Interesting thread! It's time for lesson 5?

I salute the these plans as a first step to a drug-free world. Not if they harm their and other's health and cause discomfort to others! I'm pretty sure those involved in the war on drugs are just not really interested in ending drug abuse and stricter enforcement and more severe sentences are necessary. But maybe I'm wrong, as even in countries with death sentence, drugs are availabe. I like to compare the fight against smoking with the eradication of smallpox or the abolition of slavery or the end of witch hunt. I takes one great worldwide effort and once it's over, it's over. The smallpox virus is eradicated and won't come back. No sane person would suggest to put someone else into slavery or that someone else is a witch. In a few hundred years, when smoking will be abolished (I hope so, unfortunately I think I won't live long enough to witness it), people will wonder why at our time people inhaled fumes of glowing dried plants, as we now look back to times where people were superstitious and wonder why they believed e.g. in witches.