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You can transfer balance or validity between SIM cards of the same operator. For AIS, it costs 3 Baht per transaction and you can transfer up to 20 days. Find someone who lives here and has more validity than he needs, and have him transfer excess validity to your phone. It seems 7/11 recently changed their system for top up by slip. Last week, in several branches, first they told me the system has a failure, but finally I learnt the minimum amount for top up is now 300 Baht. (AIS, I always use slip, don't like the scratch cards.)
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A visit to the In laws - Applies equally to your Isaan boyfriend
ChristianPFC replied to traveller123's topic in Gay Thailand
An interesting piece. You should put the link and quote on top, lest a superficial reader thinks you wrote it. I wonder how they can have such a low standard of proofreading on a professional website. The word they were looking for is peddler (variant spelling pedlar). Since mid-2014, there is an alcohol ban on trains which is observed. Furthermore, passengers don't ride on the locomotive. -
The centers of the major tourist places (Pattaya, Patong in Phuket, Kuta in Bali) look indistinguishable to me. For gay entertainment, Phuket and Chiang Mai are similar, but Pattaya has much more to offer. For sightseeing, all three are comparable. For beach, Phuket better than Pattaya and Chiang Mai out of question. But if you like going to the beach, get up to date information about current situation sunbeds / umbrellas / catering to avoid disappointment. If going to Phuket, consider staying one night in Patong (for easy access to gay nightlife) and one night in Phuket town (for sighseeing in Phuket town and easier access to airport, and as hub for public bus if you plan going for sightseeing by bus). If I go to Phuket again, I have plan to stay in Phuket town for sightseeing, than take last bus (around 6 pm?) to Patong, stay there for gay nightlife, and the following morning take bus to Phuket town for sightseeing and stay there again, with first and last day in Phuket town (better for public transport).
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I have dabbled a few times, details here: http://sawatdeenetwork.com/forum/post292333.html I have something going (will be for pay) at the moment, and went to a sex party (free) that turned out to be lame two weeks ago. Hornet has colored circles on profiles: green currently online, orange has been online recently (?), no circle hasn't been online for a while. But gayromeo which gives dates is much better in this aspect. In the provinces, I find many more boys on hornet than on gayromeo. (I am currently using gayromeo and hornet, cannot judge about the others. Although only one picture on grindr doesn't sound promising.)
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Thank you, paulsf, for your reply. Regarding second chances, I do give second chances. If a boy performs mediocre on first encounter, but I see potential, I might take him again. (Have no statistic analysis over performance on second encounter.) It has been a while (2014?) that I took a boy out of a bar in Soi Twilight. Given the recently raised drink prices, I have to check if the maximum I'm prepared to pay (1500 Baht) is still in the range of expected tip.
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Upon re-reading the posts, the op abidismaili is not clear on tourist visa (which will cost him in the range of 30 Euro per entry, even if it's just 2 hours) or visa exempt entry (free). Furthermore, he speaks of customs when he means immigration. abidismaili, you should specify the length(s) of time you want to stay in Thailand so others can advise which visa (or visa exempt) suits you best.
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I had a few cases where I had to negotiate the opening angle of the door with the boy before we could get to business.
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I recommend you have a backup plan. It would surprise me if both boys were there at the time of your booking.
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And how did you deal with that? And excuse my curiosity, how much do the boys ask for and how much do you tip?
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And let's not forget massage places in Silom and Sukhumvit are used to Farang customers and someone will speak English. Whereas in further away, there might be nobody who speaks English and taxi driver might not know where exactly it is. With BTS/MRT/ARL and Saen Saep Canal Boat you can bypass traffic jams, but you need experience. With bus at least the meter is not ticking while you are in traffic jam.
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There are openly operating gay saunas, however they work on a membership basis, I had to apply for membership first before I could enter (took only a few minutes but costs membership fee in addition to entry fee). That place had promising looking boys, but music and flashing lights were horrible, I won't be back (details on my blog), the most expensive and least enjoyable sauna experience. That 2 h will cost about 30 Euro (or whatever the Thai embassy in your home country charges per entry for a tourist visa), or extension 1900 Baht (?), all quite expensive. I don't know if it's possible to request a visa exempt entry (free) when you hold a valid visa. Would save you 30 Euro / 1900 Baht or in that range.
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Metered price would be around 100 Baht (more with traffic jam). In my experience, all standing taxis try to overcharge. With me it was usually double the estimated meter price, trying 4 or 6 times is new to me, you must look very rich or inexperienced. I was hoping the 600 Bath minimum tip includes HE already, which would make it a good deal. A typical case of applying Western logic to Thailand. Epic fail. Happened to me as well.
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There was one more venue that didn't allow customers to have a free look first: the short-lived Fuse/Bangkok Bounce/Club88 in basement of Wall Street Tower. I tried once, and someone else reported same experience here. I skipped. I don't buy a pig in a poke. If a bar does not allow you to have a look first, there must be a catch. Low number of boys or bar full (that must be very rare) and only poor seats available?
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Great report! Sorry about the hotel problem, first time I read about over booking hotels. This is the standard procedure for all bars except Tawan (I haven't been to Tawan for years, I learn of their changed policy only from your report). And I'm glad it is! Many times did I have to walk out of a bar because there was nothing worth spending time and money, type-wise and number-wise. I have personnally witnessed boys stuff tissue into their underwear to make the bulge look bigger (have yet to witness a prospective customer put his hand in for a grope and pull out the tissue), but would be a new low of value-for-money and new high of overcharging, deceiving and fooling customers.
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I happened to be in Nakon Sawan for Chinese New Year celebrations (full week of celbrations), which was nice. No problem getting hotel, few other Farang. (I did not celebrate at all on 8th in Bangkok, but went to festival on 10th in Nakon Sawan.)
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My thoughts about this place (pool on ground floor under X-Size) that I shared elsewhere: http://sawatdeenetwork.com/forum/boys-hard-nuts-crack-t36436-15.html
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Roi Et has some spectacular temples, I have been in 2013 on two trips. Judging by your pictures, you covered most of them. (The one in yellow cloth is Na Dun in mearby Maha Sarakham province.)
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Alternative countries to Thailand for retirement?
ChristianPFC replied to zombie's topic in Gay Thailand
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No way! They go as far as changing under a towel in gay saunas and covering their genitals on nude days in saunas. Once you get into a dark room, all free to grope, suck, fuck, but that's not my style. A friend would like to sunbathe in the nude, and he did so on the top of his hotel's roof. He got multiple complaints (by people who go there to hand clothes for drying) and had to stop.
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I don't discuss details of sexual activities either, but if the boys plays games, makes drama, pouts, is lazy I would kick him out with partial payment. I have never been threatened with a knife. But a weapon or experience in fighting or being drunk/drugged can compensate for my physical superiority (I'm taller and heavier than most Thai boys). If in doubt I would rather pay than getting into an altercation. There is a problem related to that: taking my wallet out to pay puts me into a vulnerable position: I'm distracted and have something in my hand, the boy knows where my money is and could kick me in the balls to get my wallet!
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I had a look at the selection of boys (pictures in the links provided for various massage places), nothing convincing. For me, selecting from a picture does not work, only walking past a shop with boys sitting outside. There were rumors about offing the BBoys on sawatdeenetwork, tip in the range of 10 kBaht. The BBoys or similar often do breakdancing show on walking street, you can watch for free, or give tip when they collect at the end.
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I was in a hurry so I didn't write full sentences which led to misunderstanding, here long form: The case abang1961 reports is not prostitution. Hence it's natural to take it at your pace, and if you lose interest in your date not to have sex. But the op hired a prostitute where both sides agreed on service and payment. Disagree. If boy does not perform as agreed, lower the tip. Paying in full sets a poor example and makes the boys spoiled brats, arrogant assholes and creates a sense of entitlement. I guess I am physically superior to most boys (and surely to the twinks I off) so I could throw them out if I have to do so. Others might not have this advantage and prefer to pay instead of risking an altercation.
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Abang1961 is without money, there it's quite natural to take it a your pace, and no activity if you lose interest. The op writes about hiring a moneyboy, completely different. I can't follow. Dream Boys (Bangkok or Pattaya?), short time off and short time room (i.e. not your place), that's clear. "payment (s) agreed and paid" Paid before the act? I did make a partial payment in advance once, only to end up almost robbed (an no sex). Every person I told the story said you don't pay prostitutes in advance, nowhere in the world, no time in history. "decided to let him go as far as he wanted then upped and left." What does that mean, especially upped? "the look on his face suggested that he was hoping for a different response from me." What response do you think he expected?
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I had a spectacular change in performance with one boy (first encounter was so good I took him again on next trip to Pattaya, second encounter sleeping all day and night in my room and reluctant to do anything sexual). I give second chances (after poor performance in bed), but threatening is a no-no. I never had an experience like one in the op, closest was a boy from Soi Twilight about 4 years ago who demanded 2000 for ST and didn't move, had to shove him out with 1600.
