ChristianPFC

I made it (both to Pattaya and to join - as an observer, not a participant - in this event). Well worth the money (in my case 150 THB for orange juice). The light was ok, and there was certainly some big cock on display. But none of the boys was my type, and this kind of setting (seated, pants down) is not my style.

It all varies from day to day, and can even change in the course of the night. I poke my head in the door, stand and watch for a some seconds, and if I don't like what I see (e.g. low number of boys, or boys wearing more than only underwear), I tell them why I don't go in, and go to the next bar.

I tried that many times, compromising hoping the other side would compromise as well. But as I found in http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/05/dating-thai-boys-52-bfc4in2017-ton.html As far as I read in the forums, you (a447a) hire money boys where the fronts are clear from the beginning. My mistake is deluding myself that a boy goes with me for free, when all he has his mind is to gain a material advantage. I played along a few times, inviting him and his friends for dinner, buy stuff at the market, but at the end: "My room or your room?" - "Yes, I go to my room and you go to your room." The amounts of money is negligible (let's say 500 THB per case); the waste of time, well I would have done the same with another boy another time; but the feeling of being used, and falling for the same trick again (or rather testing if this boy is different from the others, which requires an outlay of money from my side, and being disappointed that he is not) is what hurts.

There are a few who are genuinely attracted to Farang and not to SEAsian, just like I am genuinely attracted to SEAsians. And some who seem to be flexible White/Asian (as long as it's cock and not pussy, well some are even flexible in that regard) but when they see a Farang they think of material advantage in addition to sex. In those 5 years I have spent here, I met 3 (two Thai, one Burmese) who are interested in Farang and don't want any money. And it's not that they are rich: one Thai takes the bus because it's cheaper than taxi, the other didn't buy at Patpong night market because stuff there is too expensive; they are just as poor as all the others, but they don't have the demanding attitude that is common in Thai.

There have been a few I was enamored with, they could call me any time, I would pick them up anywhere. And they can set the aircon in my room to whichever temperature they want, and sleep as long as they want, I just want to be with him. But that enamoration quickly faded when I realized the feeling is not mutual. The most recent case here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/05/dating-thai-boys-52-bfc4in2017-ton.html When I pay, I don't compromise.

I have tried many times over the years, but the odds are against me. In theory yes, but in practice there are too many differences. I have been living alone for over 10 years and I don't want to compromise on the following: aircon setting (27 deg C, I'm willing to negotiate +/- 1 deg), sleep-wake pattern (mine is 24-9, recently I had a boy who told me he usually sleeps 4-14, and I can't sleep when there is someone else awake in the room), eating habits (places, times, dishes; in 2011 I had one boy staying with me several days, he would eat at one place and would watch him eating, then we would go to another place where he would watch me eating), sightseeing (I like temples, museums, national parks; I'm not interested in shopping malls or discos), mode of traveling (for me walking, bus, train; for most boys taxi is the lowest acceptable mode of transport), TV (well the TV in my room is not connected, so that problem does not arise), even with me speaking Thai better than most boys speak English, there is little to talk about. How many boys are there who are compatible? Keep it at sex with fringe activities (the occasional dinner or movie before or after sex), and send them home.

Not just MRT/BTS/BRT/ARL (I can't use my MRT card on ARL), tollways as well. There are two tollway operators in Bangkok, one of them doesn't even have cashless payment.

Thanks for posting (general, I'm busy traveling and don't read much news, I would have missed this, and the new bus line numbering system - I saw it already in operation and would have wondered what is going on if I hadn't read about it here). I thought the Prince was demolished, but judging by satellite image it still stands, I have to go there some day. The ultimate source on old cinemas in SEAsia is http://seatheater.blogspot.com/ (but even this is not complete, I submitted additions and updates).

The Thai text in the picture roughly translates as "Revealed! After murdering (nickname, real name) he works in a gay bar" (there is no Thai word for "gay bar", they use transliteration of English "bar gay").

Another point on the disabled beggar / NGO / donations subject. When you give money to a disabled beggar, there is no long-term benefit for society. It buys him a meal, but the next day he is at the same point. Things that really improve the lives of many would be investment in infrastructure (electricity, water, roads). A lot of time is wasted in traffic jams in Bangkok. On my recent trip in Myanmar I saw emergency lighting and generators everywhere in Yangon. If that money (that individuals spend to have emergency lighting powered by generators in their house) was spent on the electricity network, everyone could have reliable electricity. In 2012 (?) I saw a boy's room not far from my room. He paid 200 THB per day, which makes 6000 per month, whereas I paid 4500 per month, and my room was three times as big, nicer, had a window and private bathroom. The boy's problem was that he first cannot calculate the savings, and second does not have 4500 for deposit, and subsequently 4500 each month to pay rent at the begin of the month. I have read similar about water and electricity, and can generalize that the poor often have to pay more for the same service. Or education. But in many cases there is lack of mental capacity, you can teach a stupid person with the best teachers and offer him high awards, but if the brain can't process the information it is all in vain, and teaching is a long-term commitment, we are looking at years between the effort or learning something and having a better life as a result, many locals don't think that far in advance.

My opinion is similar to this: from: http://riverqueencambodia.blogspot.com/2016/06/ (however not written by the blog author, but copied from elsewhere)

That statue was recently moved to X-Boys. Re Bangkok vs Pattaya. I wouldn't want to live in Pattaya, but it's great for one trip (3 days 2 nights, arriving in the evening and departing in the morning) per month. I am living in Bangkok, the prices in Soi Twilight (even with transportation (bus) and hotel costs, Pattaya comes out cheaper!) and the fact that I could go there any day deter me from going to bars here. And in Bangkok I would take boys to my room (with all my stuff, and being busy traveling I just manage to keep my room in a state where I can invite someone, and still I worry "I hope he will not look into that corner, there is too much dust") vs in Pattaya to hotel which I prefer. None of these points apply to tourists. As for daytime activities in Pattaya, I made a list: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/03/daytime-activities-in-pattaya.html There is enough to keep me entertained for months, but I have visited everywhere over the years. And most of it is not accessible by public transport (advantage of Bangkok where you can get almost everywhere by public transport). Overall: the advantage of Bangkok is that it's 2 hours by bus from Pattaya, and the advantage of Pattaya is that it's 2 hours by bus from Bangkok.

I don't like wind blowing through open windows in buses and trains at all! It irritates my eyes, blows in my book or newspaper, and on train during all kind of plant matter, insects, and soot (from burning dry plants/wood) blows in. From my travels all over Thailand I have found Bangkok taxis to be the most comfortable and cheap way of private transport. Everything else I had was much more expensive and much less comfortable.

This (money exchange) is one of the subjects discussed ad nauseam, and should better be treated in a wiki than in a forum. I wrote extensively about money exchange, from Euro in Germany to THB: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2016/07/money-exchange.html (numbers will be different for other currency pairs and home countries)

About two weeks ago, I was about to enter Jupiter hoping to see (and maybe more) MonBoy in there. But boys in jeans on stage, and half an hour to wait before show starts (which is supposed to have boys in underwear - info from staff) deterred me, and now that MonBoy is home, there is no reason for me to visit Bangkok bars with Pattaya matching my style much better.

I have been a few times, and while the first are interesting experiences, it quickly becomes boring. No problems with request for money, there is just nothing to do and nowhere to go in the village, and I'm dependent on them for food and transportation.

Hello Moses, the prices quoted "Day - 8 h / $50 Night - 6 h / $30 Day+Night - $70" are just for the guide, or does it include car with the guide as driver, or does that (car and driver) has to be booked separately? (For places where a car with driver is the best way to get around.)

The idea of tipping is alien to me. In Germany I very rarely get into situations where a tip could be / would be expected. In Thailand I don't tip. It's a bit like religion. Some people pray every day and think it does good for their life, others tip and think they get better service. I do neither and do not notice any difference between their life (those who pray or tip) and mine.

from: http://www.snopes.com/college/risque/salty.asp During my trip to Myanmar, within two days my body odor changed completely, to sweetish with a hint of vinegar (I don't know what my body odor was before because my nose was used to it). Must be in the diet, I didn't eat any chocolate or Western food, only local food.

I knew that was coming!

Shamelessmack had an overview of massage places that includes type of massage table. A copy of that (from 2009) is on my blog: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2013/10/shameless-mack-fragment-found.html Someone on this forum made a overview over massage places last year, I don't remember if that included type of massage table.

Massage places are on main road and on side road leading to Phahon cinema and 39 underground sauna. Only one a bit further away (to the north, W of Pahonyothin road) is The Nine.

I have never observed or heard of such activities in Thailand. Best to show a video to explain.

That translates more as "fuck your mother", or can be used where we would just use "fuck" in English. I don't know of an equivalent of "motherfucker".

Charoen Krung, that means easy access to BTS Thonburi or Saphan Taksin? Then I would recommend the cluster of massages around BTS Saphan Kwai, simply for easy of access (still a bit of a ride, but not traffic jams on the BTS). Following that thought (ease of access), you can as well use those around BTS Sala Daeng.