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Agree with everyone else who said your reports are interesting, but you are grossly overtipping. Similar happened to me with my first off in 2010 in Pattaya. I made the mistake of walking the boy through Walking Street (as if he didn't know it is there), and back in my room before I can do anything, call from mamasan "the boy has to visit his sick mother in hospital tomorrow morning and has to leave now". At that time I was naive and paid him 700 THB (all Thai currency I had at that moment, else it would have been more, but in hindsight 700 is far too much). From that experience I derived a basic rule: sex first, talk later. So a short time off is rather to be seen as hiring the boy for maximum three hours, and what you do during this time (eating, drinking, disco, Walking Street / Khao San / wherever, or heaven forbid sex) is up to you, but you have to pay the expected short time tip. Occasionally a boy tells me has only time until xxx, then I reply: "Ok, don't come to my room / we don't go to my room. Meet another day when you have time." And in all cases so far, the issue miraculously resolved somehow. Nowadays I off boys between 21 and 23, so I can go to bed and sleep midnight or 1, and more importantly there is no hurry from the boy, because all he will do is go back to the bar. Whereas if I offed midnight, and finish activities 1 am, then the boy's mind would be on eating, drinking, meeting friends. This one in hilarious: "you must have something important" like a job interview at the Swiss embassy, or a morning flight to Singapore to perform in a classic concert? Sorry to disappoint you, but he just wanted to go home to sleep, or meet his friends, or girlfriend, or eat. Just like you look at your watch after a day of work: "17:03, time to go home!". (Mental note for my next visit to DJ station: there are not just money boys, but money boys are booked already.)
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paying off fees for boys but only taking them out for drinks
ChristianPFC replied to jason1975's topic in Gay Thailand
Absolutely! You just have to pack the offer in the right way, that it is fun. A friend had groups of boys, some of them working in Soi Twilight gogo bars, for eating, drinking, watching Muay Thai on TV, for 500 per boy four just attendance (naked!) and 700 for those who fuck him. That has been going on for years, out of a pool of over 20 boys (my estimate) up to five show up, and they bring friends, and some disappear (so the 20 in the pool change over the months). To the OP: I have enough Farang and Thai friends, I wouldn't pay anyone, or spend money on someone, to chat or drink or party with me (I don't drink or party anyway). -
You did a good job! Not much I can add, rather the other way round, a lot to learn for me. How do you get to those places further away? That would be an easy task for me, but I remember what an effort I had to put in to find out-of the way saunas in Saigon or Jakarta, places I'm not familiar with. I think "The Bridge" near BTS Saphan Khwai is missing in your blog. I don't do much massage for two reasons: the oil is a bit of a hindrance for afters, and most massages and afters are just so-so. It takes me over 5 different masseurs, each time spending over 2 hours and over 1000 THB, to find one who is worth going again. What are your numbers?
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When I walked past Dream Boys last week, a price of 550 was written outside. The doubling in prices in Soi Twilight occurred over the last 10 years, not 20. I still clearly remember negotiating price in Hot Male to 200 from 250 around 2013. http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2015/05/germany-and-thailand-inflation-and.html
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I travel by bus from Bangkok to Pattaya And return by train or van (because the van leaves near Tuk-Com, walking distance from my accommodation). I take as much luggage as I can from Germany to Thailand, most of it is cheese and chocolate to last me for months in Thailand.
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The boys could still work online. There are some Vietnamese boys in Pattaya as well (info by a friend on my recent 9-11jan2018 trip).
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Trip Report with a bunch of other stuff thrown in.
ChristianPFC replied to faranglaw's topic in Gay Thailand
Great reports, looking forward for more! Zy (former Lomchoey) is indeed a bit (very?) run-down, and rather expensive at 500 THB for 1 hour oil massage, when you can get the same, but with hot water for shower (the luxury!) in Silom for the same price or even cheaper. I have spent a bit of time in Bang Saen, and estimate then number of beach chairs to 20,000 (from multiplying number of rows and columns and blocks). Around 2012 when I was active on camfrog, there were a lot of boys from Burapha university. There must be some potential, from university or visitors! -
I walked in Silom Soi 4 a few days ago with a Farang friend and indeed, the boys from Nakarat cought (both our eyes / our both eyes - I mean all four eyes). But then my friend chatted in Thai with one of the boys, and a tip expectation of 2000 for extras was mentioned, whereupon both of us lost interest. Nowadays I tend to tip for 1 hour oil massage: 300 for just massage, another 500 for happy ending (where the masseur has to get naked and I want to get my hands and lips everywhere on his body). I have regulars who come to my place for 1000 at a time of my choice, and I cannot justify tipping a massage boy the same, when I have to travel and pay the massage place.
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Just a few years back, X-Size (do you mean X-Size or X-Boys?) hat a special drink price 200 instead of 300, and off fee 300. More precisely, that was in Oct 2014 that I made use of their special 200 THB for drink: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/10/x-size-wednesday-08102014.html
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Looking at the palace from the Kempinski, I assume? But I have read that the palace is open to public at certain times, but couldn't find out when exactly. I surely want to go!
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Correction: most buses have LCD screens. There are plenty who cannot be educated and will remain unskilled, no matter how much you school them.
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I have been twice and there was smoking on both occasions, and in both occasions close enough to me that I could smell it which hastened my departure from the venue.
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Not just that, but decomposition as well. The chemicals that are in poppers (lower alkyl nitrites) decompose at ambient temperature, which can be easily detected by smell (fusel oil when decomposed). No vendor will throw away decomposed poppers, he will try to fob it onto an unsuspecting newbie user. Best stored in the refrigerator.
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Go to shop directly, not use hotel's service. I once did in 2009, only to find out later that hotel is twice as expensive and takes twice as long as laundry shop across the road.
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Winner Boys in Sunee Plaza opening February 18th
ChristianPFC replied to williewillie's topic in Gay Pattaya
I don't like ties and bowties, but at least they don't hide much. Towels is ok, and some have nothing underneath. I don't like shorts like in Eros; and I like underwear best for the boys to wear (with tastes for cuts and colors, beyond the scope of this forum). -
On the bus, buying a ticket is not a waste of time because the bus is already running when the cashier comes along. Whereas queuing at MRT or BTS ticket automats is a waste of time. A question nobody has an answer to, most people don't even see the problem: there is much more unskilled labor than is needed, in every country of the world, and increasing.
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From two visits this year, the street trade around the royal palace is almost dead, and the little that remains has moved to Klong Lot, and is not worth going.
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LGBT expo to be held in BKK-Impact - 25/28-1-18(2061)
ChristianPFC replied to pong's topic in Gay Thailand
For those who can't figure out the dates: 25 to 28 of January 2018 (or year 2561 in Buddhist Era). -
Some Bangkok buses have card readers installed at the doors, and all buses now have an LCD screen that shows, among others, use of cards and the card reader. I'm optimistic that there will be a unified cashless payment system for all kinds of public transport on Bangkok within my lifetime. (Sidenote: Now that I often go with a Farang friend by his car on the tollway, I noticed that there are two operators: one has a choice between cash and a cashless remote payment system with a device installed in the car, which my friend has (the cashless remote payment device), and the other operator is cash only.)
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You are condoning THEFT.
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Usually twice, in the evening and in the morning. But nowadays I rarely do longtime.
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Neven been in such a situation. Situations that come close were: The boy Art who tried to steal my camera (it was already in his backpack), who was not a money boy (but I supported him with small amounts of a few hundred Bath, which obviously was not enough). I made it clear that I was not amused, and even gave him money for taxi when he asked for it, even thought at that point I knew already that beside taking my camera, he had been at my wallet as well. Should not have given him taxi money! The boy Bom Minburi (moneyboy) who stole from me 3 times already, combined 1800 THB, but he is my type! He does not know that I know that he stole from me. Still pondering if I should invite him once more, to announce at the end that I know that he stole from me, and he has the 1000 we agreed upon for short time already stolen and I won't give him any more. In your case I would have sent the boy out without money. Even better if you did not talk about money for sex. From a legal point of view, these are two different things: first you would have to pay for the service, and then you can report him to the police for trying to steal from you.
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No problems with dogs. I look at them, speak with them. It's a question of attitude. Didn't your parents teach you not to take candy from strangers? It's the same with invitations from bar boys or staff that you don't know well: either the invitation is not sincere (just small talk) or you will pay heavily if you follow. I once did and paid heavily (both in money and sanity): http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2015/11/trip-to-nakon-nayok-with-some-thai.html
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For me the question is rather: will the boy get naked, and preferably hard? A handjob is worthless to me, unless I can get my eyes and hands on a handsome body.
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Didn't someone say somewhere sometime [citation needed] that the appeal of the barracks is the shared bathroom, especially public showers?