ChristianPFC

My experiences in Hong Kong in 2019 were so poor, both saunas and online, that I gave up and didn't even look for saunas or online when I went again in Apr2024. Considering I'm coming from or going to Thailand, I save my time and money for Thailand.

Thanks for posting. I was not aware that there was such a proliferation of onsen. I have been to Kaikan, expensive at 450 THB, but clean and well managed. With a bit of luck, I spotted gay activities. Details in my blog: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2023/10/gay-activities-sep2023-thailand.html I have a full list of gay saunas in Bangkok: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2023/09/bangkok-gay-saunas-2023.html and have to update for onsen some day. There is "Waterboy Onsen" which is a gay sauna and just uses "onsen" to have a fancier name. There are some genuine saunas in Bangkok, where sexes are separated but no gay activity at all. These have real hot saunas and steam rooms and cold pools, whereas most gay saunas are only lukewarm. Details here: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/06/normal-saunas-in-thailand.html https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/09/silom-sauna-in-sathorn-sri-bam-pen.html

When I was looking for long time in 2012-2014, I had similar problems. But nowadays I sleep better alone and do long time only if the boys suggests or someone I had several good short times with and I suggest long time and specify details. Two years ago I had such case (I asked the boy for long time), and he had to leave at 6 am, so we woke up 5 am to have an hour together, but not worth the extra money, next time leave it at short time. You can buy smiles, but you can't change their behavior with money. I had such cases as well, where the boy would rather get a small amount of money by scamming me (e.g. advance payment for travel) instead of a repeated higher income by honest work. I have learnt a lot over the years (2009 my first trip), and many disappointments and a lot of money wasted.

I meant going to other countries in SEAsia as visa runs from Thailand. Days/entries to Thailand are an upper limit, not a right. Even with a valid visa, it's at the discretion of the officer to let you in. Maximum of 90 days visa exempt within 180 days would affect me, as I spend about 120 of 180 days. On entry, immigration does not know how long I'm going to stay (unless they ask to see a flight out of Thailand, but I can take a later flight). If I enter within the 90 of 180 days, but depart with more than 90 of 180 days, what is going to happen? Or they calculate how long I can stay without violating 90 of 180, and stamp me in accordingly? I have to watch how this is implemented with other travelers before I get into this position.

On Instagram, you can send only one message. If that person replies, you can chat normally. That limitation was introduces about 2 years ago. I sent messages to dozens of profiles, no reply. They go in a sub-folder "message requests", which the receiver probably never checks. I sometimes get links to have sex with women in my "message requests". On Twitter / X you can send more message, but here as well very low rate of reply, 1 out of 20 or less. And those who did reply, it didn't lead anywhere. But for Facebook, my experiences are positive. No experience with Tiktok or reddit. When I see someone I like on Tiktok, I go to their other social media to contact them.

When I started traveling in SEAsia 2014-2016, I first went to countries where I could enter visa free (for Germans: Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam), and once I had seen them and no particular reason to return, I went to countries that require a visa (Lao, Cambodia, Myanmar). Now the offerings of Cambodia and Myanmar more than compensate for the effort and expense to get a visa, but starting from zero, visa free countries first for me.

When I first came to Thailand 15 years ago, I was strongly against tattoos, but nowadays I can accept most. Some still look horrible to me. Styles of tattoos come in waves that last a few years. There is no expression of individuality, it's just peer pressure and stupidity. But luckily, I can live with most tattoos and haven't rejected a boy for his tattoos for over 5 years. One current trend, a realistic looking big spider on the side of abdomen, however, I find hideous and hope I never come across an otherwise fine body disfigured by this tattoo. I think blonde/bleached hair looks good, especially when it starts growing out and you have black at the scalp and blonde/bleached the rest.

I probably did about 10 years ago, no clear recollection, but I walked various areas in Pattaya long ago. Nowadays I'm in Pattaya mostly for business (boy business) and spend spare time reading in my room.

I'm currently in Chengdu and was searching for gay venues in English on bing and in Chinese on baidu. Few results. I went to MC bar and sauna and a local told me they closed two years ago. I went to Tata bar and there is now a different business, which was not open Friday night around 9. How to find gay venues? Gay online dating similar. I scrolled down on blued a bit, and when I reached 610 km distance, there is a message "There are no more guys, please check it later." Is there an international version of blued which I am using, and a local one they are using? (Taking advantage of 15 days visa free for Germans and various others. Gayguides is not blocked in China.)

I don't like the wall paper at all, it covers the mirrors. Boys on stage are pretty static, and I liked to see them from the back in the mirror.

To the best of my knowledge (a visit in Feb 2022) there are no gay venues in Koh Chang, and not much on online dating either.

I would be vary. In my experience, even though they are locals, they don't know the places I'm interested in. And now, after years of experience, I can organize a trip cheaper and faster than relying on local contacts.

The crucial point is that they take off their shirts.

Google translate works okay, but I find it cumbersome and wouldn't want to rely on it. And in Vietnam and Cambodia and Myanmar (in Thailand I speak Thai), I get around without google translate.

An interesting find, I haven't heard of this place before. The Thai indeed translates as "naked every day", but I wouldn't expect too much, on naked days in saunas they cover their genitals with their hands. The outside pictures on google maps look like a short-time hotel. Some day I will have a look, without expecting much.

I have been to Korat several times. Some temples in town, more temples and mountains a bit away (would need car, difficult or impractical by public transport). With car and driver, I could spend weeks in Korat province. No gay nightlife that I know of. Few western tourists. The train is a good idea, you can see construction sites of tunnels and elevated track for the high-speed train, very entertaining for me. Khao Yai, unless you go to some specific temples or rocks or cliffs, was pretty boring for me. Just mountainous forest (I have no interest in the various wildlife that you can watch there).

Brazil vs. Thailand, based on one trip to Brazil: knowledge of English is close to non-existent in Brazil. Whereas in SEAsia, I get around okay with English.

Before Covid I made some dedicated posts on the forums, and now I mention it in my blog under gay activities of the month. I even have a tag: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/search?q=saranrom When I came as a tourist (i.e. flying in for a few weeks and then return to work in Europe), I did the gogo bars extensively. But I found that there is no correlation between money paid and service rendered. Chances to get a dud or a good one are the same, whether I pay 500 or 1000 THB (or used to pay 1500).

Over 5 years ago, I met a boy in a bar who is half Thai half Scandinavian, and looks more White than Thai. He is still around, I saw his picture in one of the massage shop threads, going by the name "Danish" in spellt in Thai.

It's still kms away from Pink Line. But can easily be accessed by bus.

I find it quite entertaining and could read this every few weeks.

My favorites are blued and hornet. Gayromeo lacks coverage outside the main tourist areas and Grindr is the slowest to load on my phone, has no feature to link to profiles or find them by name, and does not work with fake GPS.

Indeed, Hat Yai has or had a gay scene, here report from my last visit 2017: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2017/09/gay-places-in-hat-yai-sep-2017.html

Everyone's experiences and limits are different. Here in numerical order for short time: 500 is still accepted for street trade (Saran Rom Park) and I do some of my business there. 800 is the minimum tip for 1 hour for most boys in Saphan Khwai and Inthamara massage places, and I do some of my business there. Fee for massage shop separately. 1000 is what I pay for boys from apps in Bangkok or in gogo bars in Pattaya (Winner Boys, Nice Boys). This is my upper limit but many here pay much more regularly. 1500 is the minimum boys in gogo bars in Bangkok ask for and some bars in Pattaya (Toy Boys, Classic Boy Bar former Cupidol). I don't pay that and I don't go there. 2000 seems the average gogo boys in Bangkok ask for. I have been asked for 2500 online once, no sorry. I have been asked for 5000 online once, no sorry. Cute and popular on Twitter, but I have my limits.

Far out, but some would be worth a visit when I'm in the area.