I am not quite sure who does run Eden Bar. The manage is Gone; there are also a couple of other lads who work there. Gone is quite popular with the customers.
Both Eden and Euro Bars were closed tonight apparently due to a flooding (water) from units above them. Both bars seemed to be doing a clean up and should be open shortly, I hope.
There is a new sauna in Pattaya! I noticed it as I was riding on Third Rd somewhere in vicinity of Tony's Gym coming from Jomtien. My guess is it is a straight sauna, but still, a sauna. Maybe it has been there and I never noticed it before?
z909, the plan you propose is logical. What you propose is what I would also suggest. Just don't burn your bridges to home until you are sure Thailand is the place for you.
I retired 28 years ago and am still "active". Spent the last 19 years visiting Thailand on and off and the last 3 or so years as a permanent fixture in Thailand with a once a year visit back home.
And as paborn says, "think long and hard" was, as always, the best advice.
I believe they are just trying to get an accurate order. Often times the waiter stands around for a long time while customers try to decide what to order.
No I don't know of any people who are cheap enough to ever tip, no matter what, in the USA. Thailand is different.
I assumed that this thread was about tipping in bars, etc, and not sex tipping?
I know some Americans that are slavish to tipping. Not only do they tip 20%, they tip on top of the tax on the food and they never question the level of service.