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It didn't look like it but they escorted me all the way to the right hand side, I suppose the fast track / priority counters (there was only the 2 counters there), I just showed them the business class boarding pass and away I went.

The boys I saw there were all rather good looking and for the most part had toned bodies (probably just the one that didn't take my eye), I would say a good mix of twinks and those with more muscular bodies but I didn't see any big muscular types. Going early, as to be expected, there wasn't too many there but by the time I was leaving quite a few had arrived and from what I saw a very nice gathering indeed.

Was too easy getting the Rabbit card set up again despite it not being used for about 5 years, took all of about one minute to get it done and topped up, no need for any form of identification required either. Senso: a bit different since long ago visit, this time the price was all inclusive of massage and boys tip payable on completion downstairs, previous for me was tip the boy in the room and then pay for massage session downstairs. Selected 120 minute aroma oil with a nice looking twink (getting there early there was only a few boys to choose from) and was taken straight to the room. Massage was actually quite good and not the usual oil up and rub all over type, he applied good pressure with a dry massage first before the oil came into play. The oil surprisingly was used properly, he put it on his hands before massaging (they way I believe it should be done) and he used it sparingly so I didn't feel like an oil slick afterwards, so massage was good quality. The afters weren't all that special, I wanted versatile or top but he was more bottom but such is life and he managed to finish the job with a smile and gave a thorough shower after so no lingering oily feeling. Total cost for the 120 minutes and tip was 3900 baht but because of the massage quality I slipped him a bonus upstairs and he was happy. XOne currency exchange had a good rate for the Aussie dollar (or south seas peso) but picked the wrong time of day to change some money there (late afternoon), it was packed (only takes 6 people to pack that tiny room😅) and a couple of locals had them busy with stacks of notes but got it done eventually. Finished up with a nice quiet evening after dinner at The Mango Tree restaurant, sorry but nothihg on the bars as that's really not my scene.

Haha not that much space no.

Thanks for that and will keep it in mind

Just starting the thread now and will keep updating as I go. So on to Plan B this trip. Thai airways didn't let me down as the plane from Perth was late (as always it seems) but the crew, service, food and entertainment were all very good. On arrival (about 10:40pm) and after the long trek to immigration I was shown straight to the priority counter, I flew business class and as soon as they saw that I was escorted to priority and took all of 5 minutes to clear. Rest of immigration didn't look too crowded and maybe would have only taken 20 minutes or so to get through. I still hate that finger print rubbish though, just a thumb print would suffice but hey this is Thailand. Caught a taxi from down stairs, no hassles whatsoever, told him which hotel and he got it up on his mobile phone / maps app. Didn't try to rip me off and he made good time to the hotel so gave him a tip on top of the fare. Booked into Ibis Styles, got to the room and after a quick shower I crapped out for the night, took about 2 minutes to hit sleep mode. As stated before the rooms are small and in my view lacking some minor things (like wardrobe / cupboard etc) but still pretty good and comfortable, thinking next trip will be back at Tarntawan. Breakfast starts 6am but there was a fair crowd of Europeans in there, had a feeling they were in a tour group and getting an early start as there are 2 big busses outside. Hit Foodland to stock up the room. Plan for the rest of the day See if I can get my old Rabbit card reactivated and squeeze in a bit more shopping, this afternoon will be Senso for a 2 hour relaxing massage with extras. The rest will be fairly mundane stuff but also looking at plans for next couple of days. To be continued.....

It looks like Ganymede use the nuru gel and costs only 200 baht more than oil on 90 and 120 minute massages so I may well be looking into them.

Agreed, oil usually takes 2 showers or more to wash off and besides that I don't much like the taste (hence I ask for fun first then massage). What I am hoping to try soon is nuru gel or as I saw somewhere aloe gel but not too sure on that one yet.

The only time I stayed at the Rose was way back in 1988, the room was very basic and very small, in fact the only redeeming features back then were location, price and the restaurant downstairs. The staff were good too and very helpful.

This thread reminded me a little of the old Bonny massage, could go one day and have a reasonably good massage (and sex) but the next time could be so disappointing but I must admit to more hit than miss there.

I booked Ibis Styles Silom for my coming trip, the other hotels I looked at were the Raya with Tarntawan in 3rd place. I basically just needed a hotel with a gym and a pool this trip as I need to keep fit for upcoming surgery and my usual walking in Bangkok just might not be enough, so not having either is a downside to the Raya and Tarntawan for me this trip. Not into the bars so location isn't an issue although the Ibis is still close enough if I were and still close enough to the restaurants and massage parlours.

I wonder if it's related in anyway to the Chillax that was on Sukhumvit 19? That one from what I can see was just a normal type massage place which closed down. Never know it could be anything and could well be open when I arrive, hoping it's a gay massage and if it is that and open I will may have to check it out.

Bit over a week to go now and looking forward to getting away from this bloody circus for a spell even if my activities will be a bit restricted, my activities in Bangkok are now reduced to Plan B as I have the first of two medical procedures shortly after my return. That first one is the easy one but next year will bring a bastard of an operation that I was hoping to avoid, such is life I guess but at least I will be doing my best to enjoy this trip, just not sure when the next will be but if possible I may try to sneak a week over before the op.

I hope Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam and Singapore never go cashless, cash is king, only time I have ever used plastic in any country I have visited was to pay for hotels or some dental work in Bangkok on one occasion. I would also use the card for an emergency if it arose and that would preferably be through a bank not the atm, I hate the thought of countries going cashless but the scammers and criminals won't mind as they would step up their online scamming to new levels.

I prefer to have kissing in my encounters with the guys in Thailand (deep with tongue is a bonus) but it's not a deal breaker if they don't kiss, I am a convert to it though, at one stage kissing guys wasn't a turn on for me but a gorgeous twink in Phuket taught me just how good it could be and from then on I have very much enjoyed it. There is one very big caveat though, bad breath is an instant turn off and a big no from me. Never had a problem with the girls (in my straighter days) or ladyboys though and found they all kissed.

I hate it when they don't turn the meter on and quote ridiculous prices and hope they don't try it on me when I arrive (too late for the train), the reason I gave up using taxis when in Bangkok, once when hailing them from outside the Raya about 5 pulled up and the first words out of the drivers were ridiculous prices for the journey. After that day my use of taxis were airport to hotel and hotel to airport, BTS, MRT and river boat get me everywhere I need to go in Bangkok.

I like G's, good food, cold beer and always have good service there. My old routine on arriving in Bangkok (check into hotel was between 5 to 6pm) was to go from hotel to Senso for a massage and an extremely happy ending then over to G's for dinner and a cold beer. Upcoming trip will differ due to the late night arrival but will resurrect the old routine a day or 2 later.

I was approached by another foreigner at Sala Daeng BTS early one morning (many years ago now), no idea why he singled me out but he had that scammer look about him (he had a heated phone conversation that everyone could clearly hear just prior) so as he approached I just told him to go away and that I wasn't interested. Prick did follow me for a while before thankfully losing interest or finally waking up to the fact that I wasn't interested in him or his trouble. In Manila they used to have immigration police impersonators cruising the streets in Ermita looking for foreigners to extort money from. They would ask to see your passport and visa then try to bullshit and say it wasn't in order and you would have to pay some ridiculous fine at the immigration office or pay a "not so big on the spot fine", amazed at just how many fell for it too.

It took me a long time to realize I was bi but now I am comfortable being bi (although the closet door is firmly bolted) and I do love the variety of sex, to me that is pretty much what it's all about. Going with the guys gives me a different thrill than going with ladies but I get great satisfaction from both. I was a member of a ladyboy forum and god help anyone that suggested the other members were bi, those guys would go nuts on anyone that suggested they were actually bi despite admitting they like to suck ladyboy dicks and even to having the ladyboys top them.

Well stage one is complete, airfare and hotel are booked for November's 2 week trip. Now I just have to wait for the magic date, arrival at the hotel is close to midnight (if the Immigration queue is short) so the first night will be sleep.

Will be well out of my range too

Crapstar have a bad reputation when it comes to (not) looking after passengers when flights are cancelled, they are just the budget airline side of Qantas and I've not heard many good things said about them.

I'd rather walk than fly them or Qantas for that matter, both crap airlines.

It appears to be the same one, must be well protected from someone very high up.

As a bi guy I can say I do enjoy playing with tits and dicks and if they are on the same person all the better, hell even if they aren't on the same person I still like playing with them (at the same time in a 3 way)