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I've stayed at the Marriott every trip I've made to Pattaya, except one. I've never had any issue with bringing 1 or 2 boys back.

Thanks for the report. It was great.

Only you are seeing begging looks, nobody else is. These boys would like to get an off, but it doesn't ruin their day if they don't, so you should let it ruin your time. Your there to have fun....Have fun....

You guys just way over think this whole thing. Your the buyer and have all the control. You go to the club maybe 10 times a year. What do you think these guys do the rest of the year. They certainly aren't sitting there waiting for you to come back next year just because you smiled. Life goes on for them. Different customers every night. If you walk in and a boy smiles at you, how great is that. He noticed you. If you have no intention of taking him, look away, walk away, a very quick shake of your head saying no..it all works. These guys are used to hearing no from a customer more than yes. If you feel like giving him 100, nothing wrong there. I've given cute boys on stage tips when I have no intention of taking them. If you see a boy you like, invite him over, see how it goes. If your not interest after talking, tip him and look for someone else. Abidismili, you say your shy, you feel sorry for boy, you feel pity, you see begging looks. Why on earth would you put yourself thru all that. Do you spend all this time, energy and money going to Thailand because you think your personally doing these guys a favor. Lighten up. You will have a lot more fun and boy will enjoy being with you if your not hung up on feeling sorry for them.

It's full fare economy which nobody ever pays for. Just need to click around till you get discounted economy.

Takes me 3 or sometimes 4 planes to get to Bangkok.

He said he always travels with KLM because he wants the miles. He can get flights on the ME3 for 700 euro in August. I'd jump all over that fare. KLM is about 1300 euro.

Hot Male accepts credit cards.

Your like the 4 year old that keeps saying, but why, but why. But I'm bored today, so I'll play. Much has to do with airline capacity. In the summer months, airlines pull big planes and seat capacity from SE Asia. They increase capacity to big summer destinations in the US and Europe. So in summer flights to Thailand may have 1000 seats a day with 1000 people a day wanting to go. They can charge high prices because they are at capacity. Starting in Sept thru the winter months, airlines add back more flights and larger planes to Thailand because there are less people flying in Europe and US . Now you have 2000 seats and 1200 people, so they lower prices to try to fill those extra seats. Supply and demand. Sometimes during the summer months a day or two may be booked very light, so the airlines may offer a fare sale. You just have to look every day. Also prices start high when first offered, but as you get closer to the dates of departure, prices can come down. Come late June or July your prices could come way down for August...or maybe not. Depends on bookings. Last weekend I was looking at flights from Boston-Bangkok in Sept. They were running $1500 US. Then on Tuesday, I played with the same dates and got a $750. fare. I booked it. You say you fly KLM because of miles and status, I do the same with American Airlines. I usually fly alone because AA fares are higher than what my friends pay to fly Chinese Airlines. So by only flying one airline you don't usually get the best fare. To get the lowest fares, you need to be very open to other airlines.

High season and low season is in the destination, not where you are leaving from. People from US and Europe want to go to Spain and Greek Islands in the summer months. They don't want to sit on a Thai beach in the pouring rain. Nov thru Feb are beautiful weather in Thailand . Many Northern Europeans and Russians come to Thailand because it is very cold at home. The summer months in Europe and US is traditionally June thru August. Planes are packed with people paying the highest prices. September is the end of summer in the Northern Hemisphere. Less people flying so prices come down trying to get people to fly.

It's high season in the US and Europe. Fares go down big time In the beginning of Sept. I have the same problem you just ran into. I bought tickets for Sept and Nov. They are 1/2 what I see from now till August.

I think people spend to much time worrying about high vs low season. There are plenty of boys around in any season. I've been there in every month and have never had an issue finding what I need. If you go into a bar with 50 boys in November, but go to the same place with 40 in September, is that really going to make or break your trip? Go in August, you'll have a good time. Maybe bring an umbrella though.

I'm not sure. I'm not into that scene so don't keep up with it.

Hi season in Thailand is November thru February. You will find muscle at Tawan in the off season, maybe not as much as high season. I don't think you will find much outside of Bangkok.

Who said you had to care ?

Hot Male has an ice maker.

I don't DEMAND a boy give a bj without a condom. In the couple of times a boy wants to, I've just said I rather not . If the boy isn't comfortable not using a condom, your probably not going to have a good time anyway. This is something that should probably be asked before finalizing the deal.

Cathay often has premium economy seats in the $1500. range out of LAX. American Airlines is stating new service to Hkg out of Lax this summer. That will keep prices down. Oct/Nov offers some of the lowest prices to Asia out of the US. I've seen some $750 fares to Bangkok out of Chicago and Boston on Japan.

April and May are the hottest months. Nov-Feb is considered the high months. Some of that because to the weather in Thailand being very tolerable and it's winter in Europe and US, so people come for warm weather. There is so much to see and do (including boys) it keeps your mind off the weather.

The day I left it was 100 degrees. I got off the plane in Boston and it was 20 with snow on the ground. As Firecat said, May will be hot and humid. I wouldn't worry about rain. You may get a heavy shower but it will be gone in an hour or less. I was just there for 2 months and saw 2 showers that lasted about 10 minutes. I've been in Rio when it hits 100, so not much different. Though I think Thailand has better a/c. I live in Ft.Lauderdale so used to heat. I have great a/c in my apt in Bangkok, so sleeping is easy. That's all that matters. Lots of times when you bring a boy back to hotel they like to stay for the night in your very comfortable bed and A/c room.

Also Depends on where in Thailand your going. You will always find what you want, but you will find more tops in Bangkok and bottoms in Pattaya. As Oz said, talk to manager and don't be shy, they have heard it all. I just got back from a 2 month trip to Bangkok a couple of days ago. It's starting to head into the slower season. More boys, less customers, means negotiating is a bit easier. Have fun.

There are many Vietnamese boys working in boy bars that do go with customers.

Most foreigners just do visa runs every 30 days.

I dont think it's a problem that you asked the question, but there are now 2 pages of everyone disagreeing with you. Maybe you feel it's a good idea to take a boy to court. At this point what answer are you looking for, from a forum full of people that have said they wouldn't ?

The Soi Twilight massage places charge 1200 for an off. There is a boy I see quite often at Hero, I have had him come to my apartment a couple of times. But he gets off usually around 8 and then we meet up, so I don't know what the official policy is. I agree with Divinemadman, the boys at Adonis used to bring it up regularly. I do out calls.