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I loved slumdogs, but was very disappointed with Grand Torino. Not one of Eastwoods best by a big margin. However, it was the #1 movie in the US for two weeks. While the public loved it, the critics take my side. For real Eastwood fans do see Changling. Angelina is fantastic and Eastwood's direction is second to none.

I just googled Samchuk Supanburi and found 3 individuals on the first page that live there and have home internet access. Two of them, appear to speak good english. Why not try and get one of them to act as your go between? Maybe offer so much cash per letter and when it gets to a certain amount send them a Western Union draft.

GB, I have concur with Soi 100%. I do not mean to gang up on you, but you really are wrong on this one. I am very impressed that Soi10 has expressed this so well, and so clearly. I know I could not have put it so clearly. My hat is off to you Soi. The only other person I know that said this took quite a few more words. His name was Michael Foucault, and he is somewhat difficult to read. As many of his ideas and writings became important to the world-wide gay movement, I would recommend that you read one of his books called "The Order of Things". Just found a URL which gives a concise summery of this book. Read from from 4.0 down. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/foucault/

Thanks gaysacguy for the info. Do you know if any of the sponsors are republican? I sure hope it does pass and will look for articles on it.

No one is saying that. We agree with you, but we are discussing what terms (semantics) to use to seperate the pedophiles, and the child abusers from gays. Suggest you reread soi's and my post. ?????????????????

Okay, nice response and you are correct. You cannot be a pedophile if the child is past puberty which may or may not be 12, 13 or 14 or in some cases 15. You are a pederest, but now that brings us to the legal end of the issue. Science, not religion has shown us that sex with a young adult (For the sake of this post anyone between 13-18) can and is harmfull to the young adult who is not muture enough to deal with the strong feelings and emotions associated with sex. So to determine what is safe for the young adult, every country has an Age Od Consent (AOC), which if the world was perfect would be determined by psychologist not morality. Most of the world sets this at 16 and, when it is lower, they usually have some other requirement; like it is forbidden if the person is more then so many years older, or money or cohersion are involved. Also, sex with a young adult or an adult past the AOC can be very tramatic if the person who initiated the sex was in a position of authority or trust. (Minister, psychologist, doctor, cop teacher, etc.) Often there are laws to cover this type of relationship, or you get sued and lose your job. All of the Western nations I know do prosecute males (homo and hetro) who have sex with young adults below this AOC. With the good old USA being the strongest enforcer with an almost uniform AOC of 18. Now I completely agree that both hetrosexuals and homosexuals often spy someone under the legal AOC and feel an attraction. I have seen some very hot young adults that definitely make my heart quiver, and I doubt I am not alone. However, I do not give into that impulse and the person who does give in should correctly be called a child abuser rather then a pederest. Yes, I will concede that we may all be pederest at one time or the other, but we are not child abusers, because unlike the child abuser we have normal adult impulse control and they do not. Quite often they have issues with drugs, or are sociopathic in some sense. So my suggestion to is to use the words pedophile for those who have sex with children under puberty, child abuser for those who have sex with those under the AOC, and gay for the rest of us. What do you think?

I agree with both PattayaMale's post and soi10tom's post with a very big exception. The prejudice is not against gay men. It is against men who have sex with boys. Why? Like it or not a boy is more important in Asian society then girls. I believe that many Asians have little trouble with sex with young girls, as they are still regarded in many ways as chattel. Men (boys) are important in Asian families and culture. They are the breadwinners and supporters of the parents. What happens to boys is very important, what happens to girls less so. This was how it was explained to me by Xiandarkthorne (asian) on another forum and I think he is correct. To get back to Taylorsquare's comments. PattayaMale never used the word gay to signify these pedos, but Soi10Tom did repeatedly. I am gay, these pervs are not gay, they are pedophiles and we should always use that distinction. Please soi don't cater to the crowd that lumps us together with them. The only thing we gays have in common with these pedos is our common humanity and I often wonder about theirs.

I listened to the interview and read your post. I do not understand your anxiety. The victims were described as children, young boys, young children, and minors. Gay was never mentioned at all, and the commissioner sounded very reasonable. It seems to me that unless you sleep with minors under 18, you will have nothing to fear. It sure doesn't sound like any kind of witch hunt to arrest gays having sex with 18+ to me.

No, Nacogdoches is probably part of hell. Based on the past eight years, anthing that close to Crawford and George W. must be hell, and god would not subject unbaptized babies to that kind of cruelity.

Would it not be a good idea to have a camera around? You can make a movie and sell copies. I can see the title now, "GANG BANGED FARANG" which you must admit is catchy.

Sorry Laurence, but everything on the web page that MonkeySee posted seems to be true. Just google each item and you will find a reference for the information. I am afraid the word malicious does not apply to what is true. Truth seldom has an evil intent. In fact, this secular web site is only interested in the sexual improprities of the Popes, and if you really want to do a bashing of Popes you only need to study any history text on their political machinations in Europe and elsewhere. A lot of historians say the dark ages where only dark because that period of time was under the rule of the Church. I too think you are to senitive on this subject. Hell, I would have shot back that the Church is one of the West's oldest institutions, and in 2000 years of its history, of course it has made mistakes. Heck the USA is only 200 years old and look at all the things we've done that we are not proud of. Another line I might have taken was to list all the things the church and various Popes have done for the great benefit of mankind. Finally, I would have pointed out that since recorded history and in every society know to modern men, there is a need for religion to explain the unknown, to unite members in a common bond, to give a set of common morals (laws), and to comfort the sick, dying and grieving. When you look at all of the religions people have believed in and compare them the Catholic Church, the church has not done that bad a job fullfilling its role as described above. Now if you will excuse me I have to cut the heart out of my latest captive and examine his entrals in order to know when to reinvest in the stock market.

I think you are absolutely correct, but consider this. One reason why there is so much propaganda from the right wing is that Pedos DO hide in the gay community. Yes, they are not gay, but many gays refuse to denounce or try to stop the activities of these people who give us such a bad name. Sort of "live and let live", or not my problem type of thinking. So I do not know about others, but I am senitive on this subject, not only for the terrible harm it does to a child, but because it gives the right wing wackos ammunition to use against us. We should not tolerate these cheeps in our community. However, I too did not see any harm in Geezer's comments.

Listen, I think the kids should be left out of the news, and I really feel sorry for the boy who has enough to deal with without all the press and attention it brings. However, when you preach "family values" then how you kids turn out is fair game. Sarah, et.al. are hypocrites and while I hate seeing the kids dragged in, these right wing judgmental SOB's should be exposed.

I've never tried the instant, but I have tried their regular coffee and it is delicious. I have bragged it up to several of my friends. Great coffee.

Yes, you can reapply, and get a new interviewer who will grant you a visa. I know it is a stupid system, but they have to have some kind of screening. Obama is not for gay marriage, but he has said over and over again that he would grant full rights to gay partners. So somewhere down the road I see a partnership rights bill and an executive order concerning gays in the military being presented by this administration. That is unless we (gays) have been lied to again.

Heck I want to post, but just plain haven't had time. Some of us unlucky ones are working our as.... off. Right now it is all I can do just to read the threads.

Like to help Greg but have no idea as to specifics. What kind of boys are you looking for? Do you have a place already and if so where in town? Budget? The only don't I can come up with is make sure the boy you like is over 18. A do? Do have a good time. Really general advice, check out Friendship bar in night Bazaar, or Soho on Huey Kaew as places to start and ask all kinds of questions.

Oh, I thought you were agreeing with him as you started out saying, "thats telling them.". Sorry.

and yet you do not hesitate to chastise other ex-pats who do have feelings on this subject. I am curious, can you provide us with a list of what is your business and what is not so we can comment without being scolded? Gaybutton no diagnosis here, just talk about an article so I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps you should take you own advice.

Would that be normal or not deaf? If you mean voices when no one is around the name for that is daydreaming. Now if mean voices that tell you what to do and when to do it, the name for that is married. However, If the voice you hear is the voice of God then the name for that is George W. Bush.

Better then doing that why not open a dollar account with Bangkok Bank. The account will be with HSBC (a little shakey, but strong), and your cash can be transferred to your Baht account with minimum charge, as needed.

Astrroo, you are going to find that Chiang Mai has hundreds of very good restaurants with all kinds of food. I am glad you enjoyed Chez Marco. Here is a review of the restaurant by a friend of mine, published last year at this time in Chiang Mai Mail. Back issues on line can show you all kinds of great places to eat. Darn you, I( wish I was in Cm right at this moment. Lucky guy....... http://www.chiangmai-mail.com/257/dining.shtml

Astrrro, I completely agree with GB's post. I don't want to see a lot of one time post and people dropping in and out just to get their names in the hat. Also, we in the states would have more trouble interesting someone in a Thailand board. Oh, I could have friends and neighbors do one post, but that would get silly very quickly. I too like this board, or I would not post. What ever happened to the idea that "if you build it they will come." I know it was a corny movie, but let us keep the board up and just see what happens. One thing that is strange is why some SGT posters do not post here. I am thinking of George, X, Dave, and others who can talk about more then what new boy is in what bar. Just my vote, others may and can differ.

I would pass on this meal. Not crazy about Lobster or mussels, and the only raw meat I like would be hanging on a Thai boy.

Excellant article and great application of game Theory. This Voranai Vanijaka is an outstanding writer. Duhhh is this a male or female Thai name, not that it really matters.