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Yes it happened to me Saturday night at Wild West Boys. I was sitting there thinking about talking to a different person. The guy I finally talked to caught my eye and was pointing to himself and raising his eyebrows which I took as "take me". So I shook my head yes and he came over. Seemed happy enough to be there. During our talk, he mentioned that he worked at Dave's Man Bar after work as a dancer backing up the ladyboys. So after a while of chit chat, I asked him if he would go off short time. He raised his eye brows and smiled which I took to me yes, and he asked for another drink. So I bought him another drink and we continued talking and laughing. Finally I thought it was time to go and said "let's go". It was then he told me something was wrong with his body and he could not go. So I gave him a tip but it left a bitter taste in my mouth...maybe I should rephrase

"I see little wrong with 1k baht a day. I think a fair price for this kind of service industry." Not all farang have the same income of course. For many, paying 5000Bt a week is alot of money when considering how much their pension is and how much their other living expenses are. Some boys are very happy with that amount. Others are very wealthy and 30,000 a week is not a high amount for them to spend. How much each person pays, in my opinion should be their private business. If I could afford it I would be happy to give my Thai friend a large amount. But since I am not, my Thai friend must get by on 25,000 a week and his Christmas bonus of 100,000 oh and his birthday bonus of 30,000 and his New Years bonus of 40,000. Sure I'd like to give more, but on my pension, no way.

Take a look at the Kawasaki dealer on Suhkumvit in Pattaya. They have some nice new bikes at great prices, on road and off road. I bought one for my Thai friend. First thing he thought of was "decorating it". Same thing with his truck. He wanted new tires, Carryboy, etc. Maybe this is a Thai gene. When I get something new, my mind can not understand this "decorating" thing. Thank God he knows what no means in English!!! (He says it means "ok, maybe later")

Can't bi-sexuals enjoy and love both men and women? Is it not possible to love more than one person at a time? Why end a 6 year relationship over something that may be a true misunderstanding? I think everything can be worked out. I again suggest some type of consequence, but ending a relationship seems way over the top.

This is difficult to answer because you already told him what the penalty was and it seems that you feel it is important to be honest to him. In a sense you told him you were going to continue an allowance for 30 more months, just a bit reduced. I also imagine that since you are very generous, he knows you probably don't mean it, since 30 months is a long time to stay angry. Since you have the most life experiences and hold the purse, what really is the outcome you want for the future? If it is that he never lie to you again, good luck. If it is as Hedda suggests, he does not respect you as much as you want him to, how can you change that...very difficult. If I was in your position, I think I would do the following. Let him know that you are disappointed that he does not respect your wishes. Tell him this bothers you so much you have reconsidered how the bike will be paid for. Next eliminate his allowance entirely until the money for a brand new bike has been recovered. I am sure he has other assets he can sell to scratch out enough for his family to get by. (Buy him meals when he is with you, but NO gifts, cigarettes, etc.)Some call it tough love. But it may be harder on you than it is on him. But IF you can do it, he may see you in a better light. He may understand that you are serious person with feelings and will not tolerate disrespect. Don't be mean about it. But try to teach him what principles are. If that doesn't work.....go back to drinking.......since the world will certainly end shortly!

Ken, the companion of the recently departed Allen, asked me to post that he is back in Pattaya. His restaurant will be open tonight August 20 as he has finished his remodeling. Ken took Allen's ashes up to his village to the wat where Allen helped build a crematorium. Ken hopes people will stop by the Little Mango which is on Soi VC in Sunee Plaza

I think the guys in Cambodia are indeed handsome. I enjoy Phnom Phen. Never stayed more than 3 nights. Some have said they hope Sihanoukville (sp) will become the next Pattaya. I have never been there and have no idea if there is any gay scene. Others been there?

From Pattaya to Bangkok (Bumrungrad Hospital) takes me 90 minutes. Taking Sukhumvit to 36 to 7 (motorway) exiting after rest stop at Bang Na (then stay in right lane) which becomes a ramp that takes you to a short stretch of road which takes you to the raised toll way. Keep on the right on tollway until you must pay. Pay toll and then continue until you come to a big curve (which is also the next exit) pay 5 baht and follow that exit. This goes by Rama IX, Rama IV, and then to Nana Plaza. Of course the biggest factor is how fast your driver goes.

My suggestion would be to have a party around 5, 6, or 7 pm and on a Saturday. People would then be able to go out after we had some drinks together. A fairly new bar is Ganymede in Jomtien Complex. It is good size host bar. The owner is very nice. Some finger food could easily be arranged and could substitute for a dinner. (Cafe Royale did a nice job for Allen's Celebration) I am not suggesting that Cafe Royale should do it. Just giving reference to that type of finger food. The time would allow people from Bangkok to get to Pattaya. I think having our own party without combining events is best. Ting Tong board should do their event which is a bit of a fundraiser (optional), I believe. If an event is too big, people don't really mingle. The breakfast we had for the vacation draw allowed people to meet new people. The purpose of a board party seems to be to allow members to get to know each other better. Combining events looses the uniqueness of each board. Also, maybe GT would want to "import" some Thais guys as additional "hosts" from Bangkok. GB knows what circle in Bangkok to contact some and GT knows the malls there, .....what would be more inviting?

As posted before, Allen wished that in lieu of flowers, donations would be made to Asian University. To facilitate this envelopes will be available tonight and tomorrow with the following insert: Allen Robert Briggs "Gay Pattayan" Memorial Fund Donations Allen asked that in lieu of flowers, those that so wished would donate to Asian University where Allen lectured for 10 years. Those wishing to do so can: 1. Put their donation in the attached envelope or 2. Donate directly to Asian University or 3. Send or deposit a donation to Allen Briggs Memorial Fund, Krung Thai Bank, account number 221-0-23657-6 (Jim Miller and Craig Reuss Trustees) All monies received will be donated to Asian University and an accounting posted on www.GayThailand.com If you wish your name to be posted please print your name below. _______________________________ ___ Here is my donation, given anonymously, do NOT print my name 100% of these donations will be given to Asian University. Thais 4 Life will be receiving a donation directly from Allen as he requested before his death.

I hope Geezer knows about this!!!!!!

Many many many people have been asking when Allen's service will be held. Here is the information. Thursday August 13 1pm Transport Allen from Bangkok Pattaya Hospital to Wat Chai 3pm Bathig Rites 7pm Chanting and viewing sponsored by Asian University Friday August 14 7pm Chanting and viewing sponsored by Friends of Allen Briggs Saturday August 15 10am Feeding of the Monks 2pm Celebration begins with speakers, prayers, and music 3pm Monks arrive for cremation ceremony 4pm Celebration of Allen's life at Panorama Tom from Cafe Royale will be handling the catering for the Celebration. He has promised us a fabulous buffet appropriate for this occasion. Tim of Panorama will make sure all runs smoothly. Hopefully all those who knew Allen, knew of Allen, or new friends who never knew of Allen will come to celebrate. Allen always was very welcoming to everyone and when he had his message board promoted Pattaya heavily. Allen was a great planner. He was thoughtful and far sighted enough to actually have provided the funds through an insurance policy to Wayne Beard to pay the expenses of this final "Meet and Greet". Ken, Allen's boyfriend will be there to help you enjoy yourself and has invited many of his Thai friends. Allen choose this time so all of us could get a good start on a happy Thai weekend. Please PM me if you have any comments or suggestions.

Allen was born January 15, 1932

"Allen's family and the USA Embassy have been informed. At this point nobody can be certain of the funeral arrangements, but from what I understand he will be cremated at Wat Chai. Once arrangements are known we will, of course, post them here." I want to thank Geezer for posting the information about Allen's passing and also Gaybutton for posting a wonderful picture of Allen. Allen heart failed him. He was revived at the condo and taken by ambulance to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital where he was met by Traveler Jim, Allen's boyfriend and me. He was conscious and gave my had a squeeze as he was rolled into the emergency ICU where he was attended to by his heart doctor and personal friend Dr Manoon. Shortly after his admittance to ICU, Dr. Manoon came out and reminded us that Allen had put in writing that he did NOT want to be revived. Dr. Manoon, Allen's boyfriend, TJ and I acknowledged that he did not want any extraordinary care or to be revived. So Allen's wishes were adhered to. Allen was very happy with his move to Jomtien Complex. He was glad he had been released from the hospital and could enjoy the sea view and see the activity around the gay beach. He was looking froward to the "meet and greet" we had planned for Friday August 14. He even requested that we have ice cream, which was one of the few things we could get him to eat. Last night Allen called me and said he wanted to thank me, Jim, and his caregivers (Pae, Mean, and Ood). He said that he was very happy to have been able to see old friends and his students and colleagues from Asian University. I joked that he would see them all Friday again. He said "Maybe". That was the last time I talked to him. Today when he squeezed my hand at the hospital shortly before he died I sensed that he was trying to relieve my worry and pain, letting me know that he was ready for what eventually came to be. He was a wonderful man. Our team is now planning for his celebration of life. The service will be at Wat Chai on South Pattaya Road. Right after Allen's cremation, please join us at Panorama for food and drinks (which Allen funded through an insurance policy. Remarkable planner!!). As a reminder that in lieu of flowers Allen's wish is that donations be made to his Memorial fund which will benefit Asian University. Details will be posted as soon as the US Embassy gives the hospital permission to release Allen's body.

There is some good news. Allen, defying the odds, has gained enough strength to be moved from the hospital in a condo in Jomtien Complex. This should make it easier for those that visit the beach, to visit Allen also. When we moved him into the unit, he was so happy. He told us he always wanted to live by the beach. Anyone that wants the address please PM me or Traveler Jim. He has a 2 bedroom unit so there is a lot of space. One of the bedrooms is for a good friend from the US. He is flying in Monday to spend time with Allen.His friend is well known to some of the Board members. It will be great to have another friend join the team of caregivers. There is a party being planned for Allen at the unit in the very near future. It will be held early in the evening, probably at a time when many people usually leave the beach. Oh course there will be providing free food and drinks. It is a party to help us continue celebrating Allen's life of service to the gay community here in Pattaya. If you want to attend just PM Traveler Jim or me so we can let you know the date and time. It should be a good time with old friends and a few surprises.

Even if the problem is with crooked cops and not King Power, who is in the best position to stop the problem. Certainly not the crooked cops. King Power has all the muscle it needs to make this stop. Too many times it seems that no one takes the initiative to stop corruption, even when it is well known. How do you solve the problem? The National Police chief saying, "Oh, please stop crooked cops."???

How does a simple post that was to alert us that KD would be closed during the Queen's birthday, become so lengthy?

For $69 you can get a Nikai Fat Reducing Food Grill NG545 For 220 Volts. Looks like a george foreman grill. Just search 220 volt appliances. You will see several sources. May have to have someone coming to Thailand bring it for you.

I think the police in these situations put people in a Thai jail, holding them up to 84 days. So this maybe a deterrent to some from staying and fighting.

I wonder if this type of corruption is limited to shoplifting? Could local news agencies be part of a scam (unknowingly)? I notice many times, newspaper show pictures of farangs being arrested, which makes them look very guilty, but stories are never followed up when charges are dismissed by the court. I wonder if other than being unfairly accused of shoplifting people have been unfairly accused of other crimes with no or inaccurate "evidence"?

Wait!! I am heavy too. I would be happy to take your place and save you any problems. You can thank me later Where will I meet up with him??

What gives any of us strength to carry on when the odds are so much against us? I'm not sure any of us know, but there seems to be something that is now pushing Allen. In my opinion it is the wonderful students he has taught at Asian University. Students have been coming by each day singing to him, bring cards and asking for his advice. In just 3 days Allen has gone from bed-ridden to sage. Those that visited him last week would be amazed at how well he was tonight. He was actually sitting up giving a lecture to the students as to what makes a good lawyer! Fantastic!! His dinner was brought in and he feed himself. The students applauded after every bite. It was wonderful to see. Tomorrow 7/31 Toi will perform at 3pm in Allen's room as I posted in a separate post

I received a call from Toi this morning asking if he could do anything for GayPattayan (Allen Briggs). it was suggested he could visit Allen and sing him a song. Allen has followed Toi's career from the old ICON club days. I am posting this for 3 reasons. To let people know the kind deed of Toi. To Printer Graham of Cafe Royale, David of Oscars, and Tim of Panorama as I understand they mentioned this to Toi. But also to let people know of the time. It might be a good time for a few people to show up to make it like a party atmosphere. The hospital will be alerted. Room 15510 Bangkok Pattaya Hospital at 3pm 7/31 Thanks to all

After reading both articles I am confused as to who was giving oral sex to who and at what time it occurred.