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"As for the guys who reputedly pay their long-distance boyfriends 40,000 Baht per month"....it was long-term not long-distance; these farangs live in Pattaya. The amounts gradually grew over years and finally reached 40K. Most my farang friends are like myself come from small families and have no heirs other than some distant relative. One farang, age 80, just died recently and this long-term bf inherits the house (it was in his name anyway) but the 40k naturally stopped. How people spend their money is their own business and I've stopped trying to understand it but it still makes no sense to me. But then again 40k for love, affection, caretaking sounds dirt cheap for an elderly gay man.

xstreamlove, I just looked at your profile and I didn't mean to imply you're a grandpa. I do suggest you re-think what a Thai-farang relationship might be like. I'm from S.F and thought like you; a 50/50 partnership, sharing lifes ups and downs together. You'll learn fast. As a farang you will be considered of higher status and with that comes your responsibilities like it or not. Try to lift a finger around the house and you'll get your hand slapped. It is not a marriage of equals and the differences in language and culture are as wide as the ocean. You will never have any intellectual discussions with him and you will seek the comfort, support and friendship with other farangs. You might consider living in Bangkok where you will find more farangs your own age. You might get lucky and find a self-sufficient, educated Thai guy but not in Pattaya. You could visit Pattaya on week-ends and holidays. I agree the 40k is way over the top and the 10k might work for you. Hope you study Thai culture and attempt to learn some Thai. Choke dee khrap!!

xstreamlove it blew my mind too. But think about it. You are asking a young man in his prime to live and take care of someone who's old enough to be his grandpa. You've removed him from the workforce (at the farang's insistance) to cater to your all needs. Besides sex, he maintains the condo, drives the car where you instruct him, cooks for you, takes care of you when your sick, takes you to your doctor appointments, buys fresh flowers for the house, pays the utilites, etc., etc., etc.. Most likely he's not from Pattaya and away from his family and closest friends. He still has his family obligations and must send money home. I could go on but I think you get the picture.....the 40K perhaps isn't as absurb as when I first heard it.

"I am woundering what the cost of a bf is every month on top of everything else."......varies widely. Two of my friends send 10,000 and 12,000 baht to their overseas bf's; two that live in Pattaya give 35,000 and 40,000 baht to their long time bf's (it grew over the years). An elderly farang in Chiang Mai is supported by his Thai bf who is a successful businessman. All these farangs I would describe as not being rich or well-to-do but simply spend their money on what makes them happy.

You'll be lucky to find anybody like that picture in Phuket. For that type of body your best bet is the Tawan Bar in Bangkok. Pattaya has been called the "armpit of Asia" and I love it!!

" . . . but it certainly tells you a lot about the class of the farang doing it. ".....excuse me, men kissing in a gay bar setting, how little class can one have? However, public displays of affection should be muted (IMHO). ""That routine is quite unlikely to unmask a good straight hooker...."......you could be right but the Kiss Test hasn't failed me yet.

"How do I tell if someone is gay?, I want to be sure he is gay".....not all Thai boys understand the western definition of "gay". The ladyboys are definitely gay but not nessarily bottoms. For the others, my method (as suggested by friends both Thai and falang) is to use the "Kiss Test". You ask the boy to sit with you , buy him a drink and then finally a passionate kiss. If the vibes are right you've found your match for the evening. Generally, straight boys like romance with girls or wives not with men. If you're a regular at the bar, become friendly with the staff. You will get all the inside facts, rumors and gossip. I know many ladyboy waiters who proudly point to their boyfriends on stage (and suggest I "off" him). Go figure.