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I think you would make out better with Google Maps and downloading Google Trips for your smartphone. Google has the latest maps and they are improving all the time. Garmin maps can be over a year old or older in area updates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ign2GmVEflw

I'm not a fan of rimming or kissing but if I was in a gogo bar watching a show, I would rather see rimming and kissing rather than a drag queen perform. Love the reports!

When I am in a gogo bar and the performers leave the stage and make their way to me in search of a tip I may or may not give one. I visit many bars every night and I will be broke if I throw around 100 baht tips to everyone who asks. For those that give freely and generously I say thank you. For those like me that are a little more tight with their money and give respectable tips, I say good for us. My last trip, I gave away more money than I did the prior trip when I purchased 2 samsung phones. One for a Bangkok friend and the other for a Pattaya friend. (Note, I got a better deal for the phone at the MBK Samsung store than I did at the Tuk.com Samsung store.) What did I learn from that trip. I learned that spending more money didn't make my trip anymore fun or improve my friendship with people. It did elevate their expectations from me when it came to my generosity. On my next trip, I will go back to my normal level of spending and stretching my money. I may need it when I retire. :: edit :: So when I go to boys boys boys, I go with about 200 baht in 20 baht notes. When I see the b-boys perform for the 2 or 3rd time that night, I give 20 to 40 baht tip but they get a minimum of 20 baht every time I see them perform that night in the other bars they perform at when I am in attendance. When the guys come over and swing their dicks for tips, I tend to touch their dick and give them 20 baht unless it is a guy I like. If it is a guy I like, I will give him 100 baht. How I tip in Bangkok. If I go to Dreamboys, I will never have a guy sit with me and buy them a drink. That is 500 baht plus tip to the guy fetching the drinks. Instead, if I like a guy on stage in the rotation. I will tip him 100 baht each time he comes around in the rotation. When I do that the host always asks if I want the guy to sit with me and I say no. by the 3rd time the guy knows i'm going to tip him and sure enough I get up and hand him another 100 baht. When his 4th rotation comes around. If he is still on stage, I will give him another 100 baht. Then I pay my check and head out. More times than not the guy will jump from the stage and stop me on my way out to talk. Since it is rare that I off anyone from a bar, I don't need to sit and talk since it won't lead to anything anyway.

It's 12:30am and I am back in my room waiting to hear from a guy on Hornet. We have been trying to find a time to meet but I hate to have sex when it's prime time to explore the bars and areas at night. So i put him on hold as I explored pattaya. I found most of the soi's to be dark. When I first walked through boyztown the bars were dark and the doors were closed. So I went to walking street. Something was going on but it was on the hush. I walked around the daynight area and a few cute guys did some flirting with me. I think they recognized me but I was not going to bite. I figured if they were guys that everyone wanted, why were they out searching on the street? I went back to walking street and another guy there called to me and I could tell he was chatting me up for an invitation but I walked on. Again... I sang the song "Gloria" and asked.. If everybody wants you, why isn't anybody calling? (In my head.. I asked that in my head...) I even found time to stop and get a foot massage from the shop near boyztown for 200 baht. It was ok but they were pushing for an Oil Massage. After that I took one last walk through boyztown. I passed xboys and was beckoned to enter the old xboys bar. The bar looked dark and quiet but the tout assured me there were guys inside. If they were the same guys I saw on stage last night I would consider it a waste of money so I didn't enter. I found that BoyzBoyzBoyz had a bit of activity going on and they waved for me to enter but I left the area and headed back to my room. I just got a message from my Hornet friend that he is on his way up to my room so I gotta go.

Friday... The beach was busy. I think a lot of the guys went to the beach to find out what would happen Friday night in the entertainment zones. We learned that there would be no loud displays of music outside till after Sunday and some bars would open. That night I found that BoyzBoyzBoyz was open. The guys were onstage but wearing street clothes with their chosen footwear. They did continue with the show and it was okay but a little shorter than their normal show. I left there and took a walk through Sunee Plaza and everything seem to be closed. One guy sitting outside one of the bars yelled to me "Open tomorrow." Back at my room I i was on Hornet talking to a massage guy and agreed to let him come to my room. I don't know what to think of the guy. He was built like a rooster. He had a big chest but a small waist and legs. He gave a decent massage and turned out to be a skilled top. When it was all said and done, I gave him his 1500 agreed amount and he asked for 500 more. I asked for what and he gave me some reason that I could not understand but i don't think I was supposed to understand what he was saying. I told him that I only took 1500 from the hotel lock box at the front because that was what we agreed. That seem to satisfy him and we said our goodbyes. Saturday I changed my residence from the Ambiance to the View Talay 7 Condominium. The day was spent with another lazy day on the beach and I was keen to get a massage on the sand but it was not in the cards. Sure guys asked but none to my liking. I met a very sexy Cambodian guy on the beach and we made plans to meet later that night for a meal together but that fell through. I ended up meeting with 2 Issan guys and we went back to my room for a 3 way. It was fun and we did some things that were a first for me. Before we met it was agreed that I would give them 700 baht each. I ended up giving them 1000 each. We spend a few hours after sex sitting on my balcony and drinking 100 pipers and coke and just talking. I told them my plans to go to BoyzBoyzBoyz to see the show and they told me they never seen it. So off we all went to go see the show together. Once in Boyztown they wanted to find a place to sit and drink bu the show would start in 20 min and I told them we had to find a seat. I was near drunk and one of the guys was just shifting gears and ready to do some heavy drinking Before the show started he was finished his beer and waving his empty bottle in the air. His friend said something to him and he lowered the bottle and snuggled up to me. I gave him my beer that I had no intention of drinking and we watched the show. They commented on the gogo guys, their bodies and their cocks. At one point during the big cock show they both said "Woa!" at the sight of one guys erection. They talked about joining a gym to build their own bodies. I would like to say that they both were all fun and good times but when I got back to my room I found that one of them stole a bottle of my cologne. I am lucky it was not my favorite cologne but they took the near full bottle of my 2nd favorite. I met them on Planet Romeo. I gave some thought about posting a warning in their guestbooks but.... I think I am just going to let it go. Oh.... more on Saturday night. I went to Xboys to see the show at 11:30 and ended up at the front row sitting next to a guy there for his first time. The show was not even a shadow of what I am use to from Xboys. Maybe one guy on stage was interesting but the other 8 or 9 guys were guys there from years past and I didn't off them then so it is a sure bet I was not going to off them now. The guy I was sitting next to commented on how bad the show was and that started a conversation about other areas in Pattaya. I ended up taking him to Sunee Plaza which he seemed to like a lot. We found one bar, went behind a screen and I informed Chit and Dam that it was my friends first time and I would appreciate it if they showed him a fun time. Did he have fun? So much fun that he bought us all drinks haha. I left him and went walking on walking street and ended up bumping into a guy I had known for a few years. He wanted fun but I told him I was not horny and just had a 3way. He just wanted the use of my body and didn't need me to do anything. I warned him that I would probably just lay there. he was happy with that and that is just what I did. Now I know how a blow-up sex doll feels! Now it is Sunday afternoon. I am waiting for a pattaya friend I know from Planet Romeo. He is not on there anymore so I have to call him and let him know my hotel. Once he gets off work he will visit me. I am looking forward to that visit.

As I said, I was at Oscars bar when we learned the news of the King. I befriended a guy from Australia who was here for the first time and leaving in the morning. I took him to Jomtien complex. He had never seen it and wanted to find it before he left. When we got there it was winding down at about 8:50pm. He was in need of a bathroom and wanted more beer. He seem to crave more beer and could not stop making jokes about the situation in the kingdom. I warned him repeatedly that bad things could happen to him if he continue to spout out loudmouth jokes about the situation. When we made it back to Boyztown the soi was dark and the bars closed with staff leaving while some still stood and talked. The massage places were also dark but the staff were still on the job begging those who pass to come in for a massage. I left my new friend on his own and walked to walking street. Walking Street was similar to Boyztown but some places were still open and faint sounds of music could be heard from behind some doors. I went back to my room at the Ambiance, flirted with the hotel staff and settled down in my room. I turned on my phone and the social apps exploded with guys trying to meet for the night I am sad to say that right now I forget what I did that night or with who. I made a post about my nights activity but my laptop died and I lost that post and have not had a chance to write another post until now. I will now talk about Friday night in my next post.

I have to give a nod to Numizu for the events of my final night in Chiang Mai. I started off the night by going to New My Way. I got there sometime after 9pm and the bar was empty. They were still transporting beer and ice from a delivery truck to the bar. Nothing started at the bar till 10:15 when the guys in the bar pulled off their shirts and walked the stage to present themself to the audience which consisted of me alone. When the first guys came out in jeans, shoes and no shirt, I balked at thinking this was as good as it gets for them, but after a while some decent guys appeared but I called for the check and beat feet over to Adams Apple. I think I like Adams apple. I like seeing the guys in underwear and bare feet. I asked one dark skin guy to sit with me during the show. I was told he was new and didn't speak english. He reminded me of an unsure and timid rabbit. Every time I shifted position in my seat he looked at me with a look of worry. Several times I eased him back into the seat to relax. After the show I saw another guy who was the opposite of the guy I was sitting with. This guy was very white in skin color with confidence to spare. When the show was over and the bar was nearing closing time, he made his way to me and said hello. We talked and I took a page from numizu and had him join us with a drink. We all clinked beers and me and the new guy talked as I stroked the leg of the dark new guy. After a short talk I offed the confident guy. He wanted to know if I wanted a 3 way and I said no... Only him. I could tell that the new guy would feel hurt and I again looked to numizu and gave him a tip of 300 baht to smooth his feelings. The confident guy (Who often performs in the erotic show) had a motorbike and drove me back to my room at PJ's place. Once there he let me have my way with him and i was happy to suck and lick his body from the tips of his toes to the lobes of his ears. It was difficult dealing with the curve of his cock but once I found the perfect angle we became delighted. Like the guy before he pulled me off and asked if he can fuck me now. I told him it is up to him. He can fuck my ass or continue to fuck my mouth. He happily chose my mouth. While thrusting he asked me breathlessly, "Can I cum? Can I cum?" He came and soon after i came. Soon after our fun, he showered and wanted to shower with me but I had to do some work on the computer so we showered separately. Before he left he asked for my line app info and we connected on the app. His tip was 1500 baht. I am told the tip in Chiang Mai is 1200 baht but it was easier to give 1500. Now i am in Pattaya at the Ambiance Hotel. I was at Oscars bar when I sadly learned the King died. I will talk about that in the next post. I have to do some work right now.

I have taken a few pictures but pulling them off the phone and posting them here in the thread related to my info seems too much like work haha So far today. It was a lazy day. I had to do some work on my computer and while doing that I answered a post from a guy or hornet. We have been playing tag since I got here. He's a 24yo guy with dark skin and a slight build. The pic he sent showed an every-day run of the mill cute guy. He wanted 400 baht for some fun. I figured what did I have to loose. It was 11am and I told him my location. He arrived at 11:15 and the guy in the picture didn't arrive. I say that because he looked much better in person then he did in the picture. We did the customary small talk as I went about drawing the curtains and preparing the bed. He went to shower and I stripped out of my clothes. Now I should say that we already agreed that he is a Top and I am a Bottom. So when he came out of the shower I had to do some convincing for him to lay face-down on the bed. He complied but his mood was suspicious and guarded. I started with a massage that turned into licking, sucking and nibbling. I heard a few hushed sighs escape from him and soon he flipped on his back displaying his thick cock. I love being oral with the guys and his body begged for it. I loved licking his low hanging balls. I never met a Thai guy with balls that hung so low and were so big. They matched the thickness of his cock. I teased his nipples, chest, legs and balls with my lips and tongue until we could not wait anymore. After all the teasing, I engulfed his cock and he nearly jumped from the bed. I began to wonder if he was new at this? Several times he pushed me off to stop himself from cumming. Then we went back at it. I let him stop me 2 more times but I was getting tired. I changed my position to allow his big cock to have easy, deep and full penetration access to my mouth and sucked him fast and deep. I used every oral trick I could.. Going down forced the thick blunt head of his cock into my throat passage. I think he may have expected me to want him to fuck me, but I wanted to make him cum. He soon began to main warnings which changed to loud warnings that grew into him trying to pull me off, but change to pushing me down. I was ready to let him cum in my mouth but he pushed so far I was afraid he would cum in my throat. Now I was pushing him back and he was holding on for dear life! When it was over. we showered separately and I thought I would have some fun and tease him. I asked him how much I owed him and asked if 300 baht was the agreed price. He said yes 300 Baht. I have him 1000 baht and received a hug and a kiss on the cheek in exchange. I later left the room to find Tho brothers Massage. I found the place only to find that it has closed. Two brothers bar is still around but they told me the massage has closed. I got a message from Bubbles Massage on Planet Romeo to try them. I used their info to show a tuk tuk driver their map and address. He took me to the address but we could not find the place. Google maps was of no help since they don't have their business uploaded to the map yet. I messaged them on Planet Romeo but we had trouble communicating my difficulties. After talking with 3 more drivers I gave up. It was God's way of telling me not to go.... So tonight... Maybe New My Way bar? Maybe an off from someplace.

I hope not! Tonight I plan to off a guy no matter what. It seems it would be a waste to stay 3 nights in Chiang Mai and not have any sex. I walked past house of male. I heard they build a wall around it. I could not find the entrance and there was no sign so I didn't try to go in. I would feel bad if I walked into the wrong place and found I was inside someones home haha!

Yesterday, a planet romeo friend took me to the Chiang Mai hot springs. It was about 30 minutes from my hotel (Pj's Place) by car. It cost me 100 baht for a ticket, my Thai friends ticket was 40 Baht It was a cute getaway. If you like you can buy eggs and let the water from the hot springs cook the eggs for you. You can also soak in the water or swim in the mineral water at an added cost. The place is a beautiful park and will remind you of Bangkok's Lumpinee park but on a smaller scale. Last night I made my way back to the night market trying to find other bars using google maps and the Thai Puan guide. I was not successful and my time was running out if I was going to make it to Adams Apple for show time. I went back to Secrets bar. I could not help but think how young the guys looked. Anyway, the bar seemed a little more busy than yesterday with the guys on one side of the bar, the daily customers on the other side an one big customer having guys walked over to him by his young companion who seem to be set in his role introducing guys of interest to his big farang friend. I went to catch a tuktuk to Adams apple and the guy demanded 200 baht. I paid 100 the night before. The way he demanded the money and our conversation had me frustrated so I stepped back from him and opened Grab app on my phone to get a taxi. Half-way through the ride the driver forgot to turn on the meter and when we arrived the meter was still on 40 baht. I gave him 120 for the air conditioned ride and the conversation. The show at adams apple was very nice and the guys were hot and sexy. One guy would have been right at home on the cover of a magazine... Well a few of them would be. The drink prices were 260 baht for a cold singha and the show started at 10:30. It was a mix if Erotic and Cabaret. If you like erections, you will like the erotic portions of the show. But if you sit in the front or end seats you will need tip money to tip the guys who come into the audience led by their erection. Oh... The gogo guys are wearing what I consider Sears white underwear and bare feet; they don't wear numbers but have names tags on the bands of their underwear. I left there at 11:30 and walked to FreeGuy Bar. Empty, no show that night and the bar was in Karaoke mode. I was the only customer and left after a few sips of my beer. Tonight I think I will try the New My Way? Maybe I will off a guy? I am still not horny so I may not waste the money.

When I first planned this trip, it was with the idea I would be coming with a friend. I wanted them to experience the parts of Thailand they have not seen yet. Also, I wanted to give the areas another try. At this point I wish I had spent more time in Phuket and less time in Chiang Mai. I am not much into sight seeing. I have been to Thailand too many times to count and have never seen the Palace. I come for the social fun and relaxation. I don't do much shopping anymore. Everything they sell here I can get back home at a far cheaper price and my closet can't fit anymore clothes... But the real reason for this whirlwind is because this may be my last trip to Thailand. There are other places for me to see.

I'm told that the 12am closure is being enforced but some bars are dimming the lights, lowering the gates and turning down the music while still serving the customers inside. I don't know how long that will be allowed to continue.

Let it go..... Turn the page.... Haha

Monday night in Chiang Mai. Lets just say that I feel like Chiang Mai is not even trying. Well one bright spot is Ram Bar in the Night Bazaar area. Small Singha 80 baht or big bottle for 120 baht. Fashionable and lively place with an open air feel but well protected if the rain comes. The show started at 10pm and looked well rehearsed but I am no fan of cabaret so I left after the second number. I went next door to Secrets Bar. It s host bar with a pool table. The bar first seemed empty when I entered but noticed a few costumes mixed with the guys. I had a 80 baht coke and watched the guys play pool for a while. One customer had a group of guys around him and the other guys seem to be unaware of the customers arriving and we all sat unbothered by the host staff there. I could imagine some of the guys in that bar could get employment at natureboy bar in Bangkok but I don't think any could work at Soi Twilight. My next stop was Circle Pub. My Sinha was 260 Baht. The show was a mix of cabaret and borderline erotic. I do have to give one performer credit for coming out and performing an erotic scene. If I had a muffin top I don't think I would have the courage to do his job. Anyway.... It seemed as if there was about 6 or 7 guys to choose from. I could see some of the guys working at soi twilight. One guy was offed by some Indian guys. I liked Circle pub when I was there a few years ago but I won't be back this trip. Tonight I will give Adams Apple a try. Oh... I went to bed alone last night. I was not feeling horny. I tried explaining that to guys on the apps and they didn't seem to understand the concept of not being in the mood for sex hahaha

Just a quick note. I arrived in Bangkok Friday evening and it was a breeze getting through immigration and my bag was the first on the belt. Got a taxi and the driver turned on the meter before I had to ask. I checked into Babylon around 9pm. Seemed quiet there but they put me on the 4th floor so i guessed the rooms were filled with guests and that was evident at breakfast with a lot of guys eating. I visited the silom area and the streets were cleared of the vendors and the sidewalks were open for pedestrians. The vendors were using the windowsills of the shops to display the items they are selling. The army has tables setup on the sidewalk similar to what you see in Pattaya on walking street. I walked through Soi Twilight but didn't go into the bars. The walkway was not crowded and the touts were not as pushy as they were in April. I went into Naturboy, sat with a cute guy and touched and groped with him for about an hour. I just got him all worked up and I figured he would give someone a spectacular cum show after our time together. Surprise of all surprises.... I walked out with sticky underwear! I can't believe how much pre-cum I produced myself so the joke was on me! While walking the streets I met a guy from Washington DC. He was interested in some fun but we settled on my showing him all the areas he knew nothing about. I said goodnight to him after helping him find a moneyboy on silom road. The fun for me started in Phuket. I will cut to the chase. Drinks at MyWay gogo. 140 Baht and 200 Baht for gogo worker. Guys start in white jeans and tennis shoes. After the first show the guys come back in Latex shorts and tennis shoes. The show is a mix of erotic with a little cabaret thrown in, Off fee 300 baht and they promote minimum tip of 1500 but tell you it is up to you and the guy. The guys would be right at home in Jupiter 2000 or Dreamboys. The bar Moo 2 was a smaller gogo bar. the drinks were 150 baht for Singha. Same price for staff. I had fun in Phuket and I look forward to my time in Chiang Mai... I just landed here 1 hour ago. Till next time,,,,

The wildest thing I've done? It had to be my first trip to Chiang Mai. I somehow got involved with a young farang guy. I remember I was staying at the lotus hotel. It was late at night and the Adam's apple was closing and the guys leaving. We ended up at the pool hall playing pool. One thing g led to another and we were playing strip pool. When we were down to our underwear the other guys there warned us but we assured them we were not going to have sex there. I lost and soon we were headed back to my room at the lotus with 2 Thai guys following us. Me and my guy were having fun but the other 2 were in the shower and argued so the Thai guy with him left. The young farang guy got in bed with us and shortly fell asleep. We had no choice so we had sex on top of him.

Love the reports but hate to hear about you turning all the hot guys into bottoms hahaha

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Oh.... Around the corner from Tawan bar are a few small bars that have drink prices around 100 baht. They are not the most classy of places but they can be fun.

In Bangkok, I don't often go into the gogo bars. I did make it into Hot Male one or 2 times and Dream Boys once. But I only go to the bars in Bangkok for the show, I don't go there to off any of the guys. The drink prices in Dreamboys has become so high that I will only enter the bar once a year in the hopes that the show has changed. This years show has not changed from last years show when I was there. I'll bar hop a little in Pattaya and I plan to buy a bottle when I am in Eros and plant my butt in a seat for a while. I will also give it a try in Jomtien Complex just to be able to say I did it. I think I am going to still be healing from surgery this trip so I won't be as wild and crazy as I have been in the past.

You can open a bottle at Eros but if you don't tip the guys, they won't stick around. They may stop by for a drink from your bottle but once they twist the cap back on the bottle they will be gone once they set the bottle down. LOL The Thai guy that hipped me to the bottle deal was a gogo guy at Eros after I had purchased yet another beer for one of the guys.

I dont mind it either. I may be jealous if they are having too much fun

I know, but no one is going back and looking at old posts with old information that may or may not be relevant to today's situation. I've been on many boards where the posters don't even want others to talk about things that have been talked about in years past. We love trip reports but we just want to argue about how much was tipped. Yeah we are all have been around the block a time or two in thailand, it would just be nice to share what we learned for those who have yet to visit or are just now exploring. Not all of us are looking to buy sex. I'm looking for a good time in thailand. Have I hired guys before? Yes. But I go into a gogo bar for the show, i dont expect to come out with a hired guy. So it's my hope that this forum has room for people like me also. I'm sure many like me read these posts.

I am what I am, I like to have fun but if I waste money it will ruine my mood. Each of us is different and we enjoy life in different ways. All I hope to do in this thread is let others see what fun is available too them without having to break the bank. I don't want to tell them what to do or how much to spend, i just want them to see there are many options on how they can enjoy their time out. For the longest time I looked at the price for a bottle on a drink card and ignored it. It was a Thai guy that opened my eyes to the fun that a bottle could bring without having to shell out 200 baht per guy plus tip. And if there was still enough left in the bottle for another night, all I had to pay was a small fee for the mixers the following night. Is there any way to get you guys to share info or are yall just going to what you like or don't like about my info on opening a bottle?

You guys don't understand. I like going into Eros bar, buying a bottle and sharing it with the guys. I still tip them the same as I would in other bars. Often I tip more in there when the guys share in my bottle. It saves me from having to buy each guy a separate drink. I think we tend to become jaded on the internet and the forums. You read the post and found the glass to be half empty. I was hoping you would read the post and find the glass to be half full. Nothing will stop anyone from tipping the guys. Tips are always up to you. I find the guys more friendly when there is a bottle from which they can share a drink. They tend to come over. Chat and drink and maybe mess around for fun. They get a tip and they will often go to another customer for a bit and will find their way back to you if give off the right vibe. I buy the bottle, but I only have one drink from it. The guys in the bar have a party from it. More times than I can count, I have had guys crawling all over me as they play with each other. Even one time there I was giving out the last of my tips and another guy snatched it from me and his friend tried to get it from him. He tried to get away and stood up on the sofa to step over a guy sitting in my crowd. The other guy on my other side stood up to stop him and they playfully wrestled. One guy has his crotch pressed into my face and the other guy had his pressed into my shoulder. Yeah, they were a little drunk! haha. But that is why I love doing it there. I will often go to a money exchange booth and ask for 2000 baht in 20 baht notes to give to the guys throughout the night. Besides.... I would much rather read about your fun and how you get value for your baht. It's a waste to judge my exploits either good or bad. Just share your exploits and maybe we all will learn a thing or two.