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Isn't that really what most of us do with our youth? I know I did. I don't begrudge the Thai boys for living life to the fullest in their youth. I know before I was 28 I made some really stupid decisions in my life. I even bought a 1965 Mustang Convertible that cost me about my entire salary for a year. (totally worth it) I think we often forget how much these boys are still growing and learning and although we (or at least I) have learned many lessons over the years and try to teach those that are younger, it all too often falls on deaf ears.

The photos were pre-move in. LOL My office area looks great. And, the BF's office space is equally grand. But, now the apartment is shrinking even more in size.

No, I knew. But, the sex was just too delicious! I am from NYC and an overnight there is 2,000 USD. So for me, I still thought I was getting a great deal. Like I said, I have learned a lot over the years. But, initially, I had high hopes.

Lucky, I know you are a theater buff. Have you see this yet? I have not. But, it is on my list!

Over the year I have purchased over 40 motorbikes for different boys. Yes, insane I know. But, it is the truth. Of all of these bikes only 3 of them kept them for long term as when the rent was due or money was needed, first came the gold and then came the motorbikes. I have not met that many boys that have their own motorbike in Pattaya or Bangkok. I know some that do and some that have leased bikes. Often the lease was given to them or they used all the money they made to put the down payment down and then all too often, they loose the bike because they can't keep up payments during low season. I use to give phones or bikes for Birthdays but have since stopped doing these things as I realized that they didn't stay where I wished them to stay and that was as a means of transportation when things got rough. I know of only a handful of boys who have cars and they are all older cars that is also a family car. We like to think the boys do well. But, in reality, they survive and only thrive when they make the right choices day in and day out. That is hard to do when they live the Thai way of "enjoy today and worry about tomorrow later." My first long term boy in Thailand (Firecat knows) was a great guy and for the 2 years he was with me he supported his brother and his 2 friends. They worried for little when he had my cash flowing. When it stopped, they had to work harder and life changed. One of them did well and helped the ex for many years. That is the way things go. It is not a great life unless they meet that someone special who really does want to change their lives for the better. Again, just my opinion and based on over 1,000 boys I have offed over the years.

Anddy, yes, it is a terrace for sure. LOL There is an Index in Ekkamai area. I forgot exact location but they deliver so it was easy for us. I like Index but honestly bought very little from them as once I went to Ikea and they had all I needed and they deliver and install within 2 days. Perfect for me as I have little patience.

I ended up paying 60k per month. But, there were tons of cheaper apartments in the area. I wanted one with a nice pool and nice gym and one less than 100 meters from the Skytrain and a Skytrain station that had an escalator going up. I also wanted a newer place that had a full-time doorman and security. Lastly, I wanted one with a nice balcony as one of my long term boys smoke and both of them love a balcony. I had several requirements and the realtor I chose picked out many for us to see. We spent 2 days looking a place in this area and Thong Lor. The lady that owned this one would not go down in the price even for a longer lease and in the end, I thought it was worth it for the balcony (the largest one I saw in any apartment).

One of the pitfalls of getting a place so close to a popular Skytrain stop was a sacrifice in the size of the apartment. We ended up with something around 110 Meters. We found other apartments that were also 2 bedrooms but about 130-150 meters for the same price. But, we chose one that we liked near the Skytrain. It has been a bit hard to furnish as there was little space. Luckily, we found Ikea and have spent a good amount of time in Ikea and Index the last week. Finally, today, the last of our furnishings arrived and we are able to get organized. The BF wanted a computer desk and chair which we got at Ikea. I wanted a Kitchen Island Stand to hold my Nespresso and Microwave as there isn’t much counter space in the kitchen. After spending 2 years in the Middle East and not being able to purchase nice things very easily, I was thrilled to have the options that Thailand affords me. The thing I love about both Ikea and Index is that they both deliver and fast. Ikea delivers without 2 days all the time. It is a massive operation. We went to the store near Bangna (see thread on Ikea). Getting a new place here was also a breeze to get Internet set up. We requested one day and a couple of days later it was installed. But, in the meantime, I was able to use 12Call Internet from my phone and it was really fast. I got a 10G plan for the month and I think I paid about 700 baht. That was more than enough to do everything I need on the net. Being close to the Skytrain is great! I love being able to take it to Siam Paragon or downtown. Taking taxis is often a pain in the ass and much slower than the Skytrain. I really like the Ekkamai area. There are tons of restaurants and shops in the area. There is a movie theater about 5 minute walk from my apartment. There are an abundance of coffee shops and massages places. There is a Big C 5 minutes from the apartment and a good Index near as well. All in all, I am so glad I found the area. As for boys, Grindr and Jack’d have been good and I get quite a bit of guys offering to “visit” when I sign on. But, I have not been doing that yet as I have 2 live in guys that are very good to me. However, I am sure that when the newness of Bangkok wears off, I’ll meet a few local guys just for fun. Plus, I love a nice massage and release.

You are right!

I am not sure on this but if you go to the bottom of the forum, you should see a button called Themes. That should allow you to work again in the mobile version.

Welcome Surfside. Glad to have you here. I enjoyed the old Dreaded Ned's. Glad you made your way here. I called the store and they are still there but they don't do chairs. However, it was a good lead. Thank you!

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Amazing posts. I love savored each and every post and word. You have a true talent sir!

abang, I think you miss the bigger picture. The world often copies Game of Thrones. If you watch the last season, you would know the women were taking over the world.

I agree. But, the ones that keep coming back for more and more and that are gay, are not here to tour Siam Paragon over and over. There must be some reason they are here. Humm. Let me think. Yes. Sex is abundant. And, cheap.

It wasn't totally full Firecat. There were only 9 boys living there with me full-time at that point. 2 for each bedroom and one for my bed. Of course the one that was lucky (unlucky) enough to get my bedroom was usually the favored one and got whatever the fuck he wanted. However, that is but a distant memory and the pool parties have subsided and the garden I furnished for the house was loved by the next renter.

I have a great deal of friends in NYC who were escorts when they were younger. The simple truth is that the business is all about fucking. If you use an escort / moneyboy / hooker / prostitute don't fall in love and expect them to fall in love with you. It is a business for them and any relationship that starts with money will always be about money. Money is the thing that makes the world go round. It is the reason many come to Thailand. They can easily get in LOS what they can't in their own country. That is a semblance of a relationship with a younger guy. We all want to have love in our life and the boys want the same. Often, they are content just knowing that someone cares so much about them that they will forgo the problems that the relationship has to maintain that sense of being loved. My very long term boy knows that I love him. He knows that I am his rock. He knows that I want his happiness. He knows that when I buy him things that I expect him to take care of them. Often I am disappointed as he will sell for Mama but when that happens, he does not get anything like that item again. He has learned over the years that there are limitations and boundaries. When we were first together, I think I bought him at least 5 or 10 phones. At least 3 or 4 motorbikes. I showered him with everything I thought he desired. Instead, he just wanted to know I would not leave him for someone younger, cuter or fresh. When he became comfortable in the fact that I wanted him long term, his entire perception changed for the better. He still fucks up from time to time as do I. But, he knows that the fuck ups have a cost and they now come very rarely. The conversation in this thread has been truly wonderful to read. I have thoroughly enjoyed it. Firecat knows a great deal about the moneyboy scene in Thailand as he has been around the block a few times. Vinapu is quickly making up ground on him and living his life wonderfully when he visits this great place. Others involved in this conversation have given me a lot to ponder and think about. For new people reading this thread, just know that paying the going rate is fine. Paying more is fine. Showering boys with gifts is fine. Being a cheap charlie isn't fine. But, like everything in this thread, that is just my opinion. Also, for those reading know that sometimes, not often, but sometimes you meet a boy that really changes you and helps you and is kind to you and will do anything he can do for you. That may not be love, but it is damn close and that experience is totally worth all the failed relationships ones has in this amazing place! So, in the end, a few gifts that were irrelevant to me, meant a great deal to him and his family. Now, life goes one. I wake up beside him each day. I laugh with him every day. And, when we go to bed at night, he always gives me a kiss and says, "thank you." Goodness, I love Thailand!

LOL I totally agree!

I loved this show last season. It was a bit of a mind fuck but, I really enjoyed it and the main character is sexy! Plus, I love Christian Slater!

The Pope leans towards Hillary and said, "Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, but will go deep into their hearts and they'll forever speak of this day and rejoice!" Hillary replied, "I seriously doubt that! With one little wave of your hand....Show me!" So the Pope backhanded her and knocked her off the stage!

I love George Takei but his criticism of this was not needed. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/star-trek-beyond-cast-defends-gay-sulu-against-george-takei-criticism-20160708

I think this means your number of likes have broken the system!

My TV shows are normally based on a book. Isn't that the same same?

I think I have a right to post just like you do. I think the great thing about this site is that everyone has a right to post and very few times over the years have posts been deleted or removed. We all seem to be able to get along and move along when a topic is of no interest to us. That said, you seem to have enjoyed the conversation about leather. Are you sure we didn't meet at last year's Folsom Street Festival?

So sorry MsAnn. The issue for many months has been the software Invision. They come out with a new update every few days and it is very had to keep up with them. I truly regret the choice in investing with their company as they can't seem to get things fixed. As soon as a good stable release is out, we will not upgrade to the newest version unless a security issue. For long posts, I always type in a editor and then past into here. I have done that for every site for many years. I know that doesn't solve your problem today, but it might be less frustrating than having a good post disappear.