firecat69

I guess it depends on where you come from. I am from the USA. I tip my barber, manicurist, waiter , taxi driver and many more in the USA. And of course I tip my masseur in Thailand happy ending or not and IMHO if you can't afford to tip then don't get the massage.. Sick of seeing cheapskates getting a 3-400 meal in Pattaya and leaving 15-20 baht for a tip. Stay home and cook if you can't afford a few extra baht. Or eat off a street stand!!!

You are supposed to be sick and you are making bread????

The older you get the more appeal a Condo has. Unless you love dealing with repairs and cutting lawns etc, condos give you more time to do the things that you really like. Its also a lot easier for the boys to find you when you order one on GayRomeo. LOL

You get food poisoning from the crocodile meat??

First you will need to get a Visa for yourself which may be time consuming. Not sure if the boys need one but probably.

I think sometimes we are confused into thinking high season for everyone is what it is for Gay Businesses.. BKK is a very busy city in the summer with visitors and children out of school in the West. I suspect in BKK the rates will go back down in September.

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I used Agoda for my recent stay and for the quote in January. However the rate is considerably higher( $157) in June so I guess Summer is High Season in BKK.

I guess it depends on what High Season is. I just stayed there for $107 with breakfast and if I booked my January dates it would be $117. Definitely worth the small difference to me but I understand for some it may be too much .

Did you have those 3x glasses on again??

That Courtyard by Marriott rate would be ok except for the Grande Centre Point being almost the same price with breakfast . The Grande Centre Point is closer to BTS and you get a 750 sq ft suite instead of a room. No Comparison IMHO

Don't any of you guys like Kisses??? Where are the photos.

So Sweet!

I would gladly kiss this one!!

If they are working in a GoGo Bar you can be sure they are offable and that includes Discos.

I am in the Tokyo airport and killing some time, so some final thoughts on my last 30 days (actually 31 but no fine). I have to remember not to tire myself out when I first arrive Pattaya. It is just so easy there. I have 4 or 5 regulars and I can go on Gay Romeo and find what I like any time day or night. So when you have been gone 2 months I tend to try to see too many boys too fast (yes it is possible) It was definitely low season when I arrived but the Bars did seem to be moving into high season as I was leaving. In Sunee I had dinner (sandwich at Oud's where I enjoy Jack and Ralph . Imagine being together for 47 years. ( I cannot) heheh. Oud always fun and he does seem to choose some cute boys whose English is always good. For GoGo Bars in Sunee it was Mic My and Nice Boys. Mic My definitely has boys of the younger persuasion although when I have been motivated they did turn out to be 18. Nice Boys by far has the most boys in Sunee and I have to spend time there with my good friend Michael. The boys are a little rough for my taste and the constant jack wow bores me but many love it, which is why easily they are the most successful bar in Sunee. I will say that usually there are at least a couple out of the 40 boys that I am attracted to. BoysTown I spent all my time at FunnyBoys, ToyBoys and XBoys/ formerly David. I did stope in Vassa once and was disapointed with the quality from the previous time. FunnyBoys can always be counted on to have a good complement of boys even at 830pm. They tend to be on the older side but certainly not past their date. Hehe. Music is good and hand wipes, peanuts etc make the place a little classier then most. Only complaints you hear is the rotation is too slow. ToyBoys this trip easily was my favorite Bar. At least 40 boys of all types and some Stunners IMHO. With so many boys the rotation does seem slow but there is only room on stage for about 16 so with over 40 boys , you might have to have 2 drinks. Music at a good level and helpful but not bothersome mamasan. XBoys in what was formerly David has the best xxx show by far in Pattaya. It is somewhat different every night and the twins in the shower is always fun. And of course the BBoys are fun to watch. The boys on offer are a varied bunch and some really cute ones but not sure which of the 2 XBoys to find the one you like if you come back another night. They seem to rotate between the bars. Then it was on to Bangkok for my last 5 night which I have covered pretty thoroughly. The Grande Centre Point was just fabulous. I had a 750 sq ft suite with washer/dryer, fax machine etec etc. Fabulous lobby , great location 300 meters from Ratchadamri BTS. beautiful pool and health club for $107 US per night on Agoda. The next door neighbors are Four Seasons and St Regis at $350 a night for a 350 sq foot room. Easy choice next time I go back. Their one weakness is the Western breakfast buffet which is average at best. So much to do in BKK that even when you have tired yourself out for boys, there is plenty to do. Well I didn't completely tire myself out. There was my 7/11 boy and one or two others. Be back january 2.

Forgot to post this photo taken from the Platform of BTS at Ratchadamari. Race track and playing golf right in the middle of the business district. Gotta love it!

If you buy the junk off the counter they will not last for your trip usually. Usually you can tell by the weight if it is junk or good quality usually from Taiwan. I have bought high quality Rolex's for friends that are still working years later. But the price ranges from 1000-1500 baht. The police are constantly after them and you need to be careful bringing more then 1 back to the USA. Customs turns a blind eye to one but if you have 1/2 dozen you could have them confiscated.

Had to go see the new James Bond movie . So headed over to Siam Paragon which has one of the best theater complexes in the world. Not quite the bargain it used to be now that I get senior rates in the USA (hehe) but still cheaper even with their rates having increased. Movie opened with a Great Chase scene and then slowed for awhile and picked up again the last hour. Worth the money. Now it was time for lunch and I remember over a year ago we had best Burger thread in which Michael and the boys found Bangkok Burger. I believe they proclaimed it the best or at least tied for best and I went with them a second time and was very impressed. However not a great location on Thonglor for a spur of the moment. Since that time they have opened at Bagna close to Ikea and Phuket. Lo and behold they opened a small stand at the Siam Paragon Food Ct. I headed there and ordered the Bacon cheeseburger which comes with fries and a dab of cole slaw. I was interested to see if they could maintain the quality. I know Dukes failed miserably when they left Chiang Mai. I watched them take a fresh made burger out of the frig. and put it on the grill. This burger looked the same size after cooking so definitely quality meat. Took 10-15 minutes so don't be in a rush. This burger was just excellent in all ways. The bun was fresh and chewey and held up well . The meat was delicious and they used well done bacon and cheddar cheese. The FF were crisp and tasty. You might think 120 grams is not very big but I was stuffed because this was not a lot of fat disappearing in the cooking. The price was 235 baht so not cheap but easily worth it. Have included 2 photos from which you should be able to read the menu.

No rain tonight so on Halloween I headed out. Had Taxi drop me on Silom at Soi Convent. Why I want to punish myself walking down Silom and then Patpong , I cannot answer. Silom is worse then ever with stands taking up all the space except for single file. Walked down Soi 4 and as usual they were very busy but did not stop. Started down Patpong and as usual could not get through there without buying a watch. At last count I have 47 watches all of which still work because I buy the high quality. Police were out , so watches were hidden and just the junk was out but if you know to ask they bring them out. It is like a ritual maybe I can start a watch store. Make the turn on Surawong and head for Soi Twilight. On entering the Soi it appeared to be very busy. Bars packed and no seats at Maxis. When I lived in Bangkok X Boys was my choice 90% of the time so naturally that was my first stop. I am a face person first so I was disappointed. Some very nice athletic bodies but no faces that spoke to me. Now I should say that I am fairly drained from 25 days in Pattaya and my 7/11 boy ( from Solid) has visited every morning. The Coyote Dancers were energetic and had excellent sexy bodies. Music was at an ok level (unusual) and drinks were 250 baht (ugh). Walked down the Soi and no seats at Dicks so kept walking. Out of the corner of my eye I saw a stunner but he was waiting for a hair cut and was questionable age but made a mental note to look on the way back. Number of massage places on the Soi but again nothing that grabbed me as in the past. Next stop Classic Boys. They have done some renovations and have gotten some good reports on some websites. A disaster . 22 boys and not one I would have taken for free. IMHO some of the least attractive boys I have ever seen in a GoGo Bar. Drinks 260 baht and music ok.. Headed back and looked for the Stunner but he was still waiting for his hair cut. Door man at Fresh Boys used to be Door man at X Boys so I let him entice me into going in. Big mistake !! Almost as bad as classic with one or 2 exceptions. Drinks 260 baht and music at good level. Dick's still has no seats and I consider going up to Dream Boys. Here I know I will get plenty of eye candy. The problem is I will fall in love with at least 5 boys and every one will say Man only. Now 1 out 5 will probably do the deed but I don't like the odds. Show about to start so drinks 320 baht and they will be jammed as usual. I continue down the Soi and now Maxis's has plenty of seats probably because everyone headed for Dream Boys. I considered walking up the stairs at HotMale where I know a couple of mamasans but my knees said no. I headed for home. 820 baht for 3 diet cokes and very little to look at except at X Boys. Tomorrow is another night if I have the energy. The photo is of the boys at Bangkok Massage next to X Boy.

What you say may be true but it is evident that the parents Michael has to deal with are not education conscious. And I would venture to say that the overwhelming majority of sex workers do not come from that mixed background you refer to. Because their parents instead of being education conscious are pushing their children into the many forms of brothels at a young age or at least are turning a blind eye.

Did not make it to Soi Twilight last night but will tonight. Luckily I found a favorite of mine from Solid who is now working at 7/11. He was more then happy to come to my Hotel this morning before going to work at 10am. Just as good as always and very appreciative of the money. Took a chance with the Black Clouds and took the BTS to Saladaeng to explore the newly renovated (at least for me) Silom Complex. Does not look a lot different but a lot of new stores and many old ones gone. New escalators and a new Food Ct with a number of restaurants I have not noticed anywhere else. Great cookie place I never heard of. One of the bigger I Studios and as yet with no customers. I was able to play in there for awhile as the only customer. That will surely change. Still some stores being built out. Tops did not look any different, not sure if they even closed. I am sure the surrounding businesses are glad to have them back for the customers they attract.

I should have been more specific. 99% of families who allow their children either known or not to enter the sex trade will bleed them dry if given half a chance. Oh sure they will ask to borrow for car etc. but of course have no intention of ever paying it back.

You are welcome to disagree but Thai families of this economic strata do whatever is required in order to keep the money flowing. Unlike the West Thai mothers are only interested in their sons doing well so that they can take a % of the money. If they think that money is threatened then they will do whatever is needed to protect the income. I have seen it many times. If the son tells mama this is the way it is or there will be no more money mama will make 180 degree turn to preserve her income. It's so hard as a Westerner to accept that parents in Thailand expect their children to support them. This has nothing to do with how old they are or capable of working. They want to sponge off their children I don't know about any of the rest of the falangs posting here but that is certainly not the way it is in the USA. So mama will do what she has to do!

Hey Gays replies on the above were to posters who criticized the Thai Education system and the Thai people. Those posts are not relevant to helping Michael which was the point of the post. They also probably came from people who are just venting their personal opinions which they cannot prove with facts IMHO. You continue to talk about the grandmother and father and Michael is talking about the boy. He wants to help the boy if he is given constructive suggestions such as what schools , where he can get ratings of schools both to bring a student up to where he should be and then continue on with his education. The family can be forced into allowing the boy to get an education. Michael does not need to be told about the problems which is all you and MOST other posters have given except for HeyGay. And in this thread the only negative things you can post about HeyGay are his reactions to being attacked.