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I guess there are no Gay Dogs or owners on this Forum.

LH seems to love pets. http://www.pettravel.com/airline_pet_rules/lufthansa_airlines.cfm

I assume the dog is small, if so maybe this will help. http://www.organic-pet-digest.com/pet-friendly-airlines.html

No reason once you find the lowest fares not to see if choices that give you a more comfortable seat are in the low price category. 3/3/3 most of the time will be more comfortable then 3/4/3 and as I said before there are many choices.

You fly on the wrong airlines. DL, Asiana, EVA just to name a few are all 3,3,3.

Those 2 Bars, I hope you are looking for Tops?

Ditto!

The worst thing about Ignore as Willie pointed out is if you quote someone , you are still stuck with reading the drivel of someone you put on Ignore. Hopefully enough people will put him on Ignore that he will only have himself to converse with. Brain Dead with Brain Dead!

Ok it appears to be official at least to me. Abidismali is a Troll and now I have him on Ignore. Suggest others either do that or stop replying to his inane comments and idiotic questions. Hopefully he will go away!

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Would definitely go to Pattaya first and end up in BKK much closer to airport for your departure.

Aeroflot. I flew them once Moscow- St Petersburg and swore never would ever climb on that airline again and I never have!

I guess it depends more on your flight arrival and departure time.

Less customers . Boys still need money. Maybe better time.

You have to search to find a a Legit Shop as you call them where a male masseur might not indicate something more may be available. Of course it depends on the layout of the shop. Walls or curtains and their height and even more important is the next cubicle being used.

If that's true then you are an insult to this Forum by not giving us a trip report that you have gotten by many members here. Just a Taker not a Giver??

Agreed and I wonder if OP has ever been to Thailand. I now have my doubts.

Under your original scenario there is absolutely no difference between ST or LT . You could be robbed or beaten in a short term setting just as easily. Although I can't speak for everyone here , I would bet the vast majority of posters here do not regularly stay in Hotels where ID is taken and confirmed before the guest leaves . Very few Hotels do that and many of the ones who check id are finished after that with no call to the room. But I have long stopped staying in Hotels who infringe on my privacy , by staying most of the time in Airbnb apartments . And in BKK I stay in High end hotels ( mostly for free with points) where my guest has never been stopped or questioned . I have been robbed once in 15 years and thousands of nights. Being beaten up is just something that I have never even heard of. Please inform us how many nights you have spent in Thailand and invited a boy to your room. Once we are done with your ridiculous worries of theft and getting beaten up , the only answer left is personal preference for ST or LT.

Make up your mind. You started off with the main point of your post was the possibility of theft or getting beaten up. You pretty much got slapped down for those ridiculous assertions. Now you want to change it to snoring or restlessness which everyone deals with in their home country and can easily decide what is best for them on their visits to Thailand and has nothing to do with anyone else.

Ditto Detroit. Multiple entries LAX with no problems. Toronto is the other airport I avoid!

Welcome Back!

Gee I must have missed all those times members have been beaten and robbed. Must have happened in a parallel universe. There may be some reasons to prefer ST to LT but certainly it has nothing to do with getting beaten and robbed.

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Bottom line there are no rules! Fairness is the operative word. Most people who can spend thousands of $ for a trip to Thailand understand what is fair. Unfortunately as with all things in life, a few don't give a damn and treat the boys like meat in a Deli. None who spends any time on this Forum should be able to discern what is fair and if you can't then ask. That does not mean that you will not encounter customers in the Bars who don't give a damn about fairness.

Believe me when your experiences are with GoGo Boys etc , it is easy to forget that BKK is a massive city with many middle class to filthy rich families. When I lived in BKK , I rented an apartment on the River in a very expensive building. Many of the renters were not Thai but many were and most of the Condos were owned by Thais. There were hundreds of mostly women coming in the morning to work in the office tower and they all seemed to make their first stop Starbucks for a coffee and sweet thing. Now I consider Starbucks pretty expensive and to see many of the same women spending in a week a pretty hefty sum , was my first realization that yes the boys we pay come from poor families mostly from Issan. But there are more and more middle class to rich families in BKK and they have gay children. Walk into the garage at Siam Paragon and wait to see how many nice cars get driven into the garage by Hot Boys. Believe it or not there are many members here who have never spent 5 seconds in Siam Paragon or similar and that is not a criticism but rather an observation. Because they spend all their time in massage Parlors and GoGo Bars , it is easy to think all Hot Boys come from poor backgrounds. To me the perfect distinction is go on Hornet in Pattaya and send a message to any boy who catches your fancy. Response will be over 90% and most all of them moneyboys. Now do the same thing in BKK. If you are lucky you will get maybe a 30% response and some of those will be insulted that you thought they were a moneyboy. Many members here who are not ancient like me might be surprised in BKK ,Boys who would enjoy hearing their experiences and have a meal with them and practice their English. And who knows what might happen? But in most cases you do need to make the first move.