forrestreid

Could I request that "ForrestReid1614502761" (which is what posts made by my old Boytoy account come up being written by), is merged into my current profile. Thanks

Last time I was in Athens I stayed quite close to Omonia Square. It was three years ago, and although I talked to a few Syrian guys around the square, like my previous trip to Istanbul, I was too nervous to take any of them back. I realise now I was looking in the wrong side of the square. I approached the square from the south west, from the Pireos Street end, and the evening I went there I didnt head to it until about 11.00 pm. I remember getting more and more nervous watching the guys hanging around as I got to the closer to the square and in particular I was a bit spooked by coming across a covered walkway very close to the square to my right (linking Pireos and Athinas Street). It was obviously a shopping arcade by day, but at that time of night it there was about thirty guys lined up on the ground with blankets, evidently homeless and bunked down for the night. I was not used to seeing so many homeless people and any sign of slowing down or dawdling meant that guys, mainly Middle Eastern looking, approached you and offered drugs and girls. I sat down on a bench when i got to the square and a guy quickly sat down beside me. “You like boys or girls?” he asked. When I told him I liked guys, he offered to go with me for 50 Euros. I asked where he was from and he said he was a Syrian refugee. He looked about twenty and handsome in a rangy sort of way. But I was too nervous. I got up and headed back down Pireos, on the far side this time. Another guy sidled up to me. He informed me he would go with me to my hotel. “What, why?”, I said in mock innocence. He informed me that he had seem me chatting to the guy on the bench and that I had been right to reject him as he was “not good”. He himself was an Iraqi refugee and just wanted a little money. He pointed to the arcade and said “I sleep there, no money for food, Greece very hard for refugees”. He looked at me pleadingly. However, he had unwitting spooked me even more by making it clear to me that my movements around the square were being monitored by the hustlers, and the smell of desperation off him was a massive boner-killer. I pressed a five Euro note in his hand and almost ran back down Pireos St. In the end I hired a guy off Hunqz. I saw a guy offering massages for €40. I decided to go for him as I thought that not much would have been spent if it doesnt work out well. It turns out it was a “straight” married guy who was trying to earn a bit of money on the side. He told me he was unemployed and he made some money by teaching himself how to do massages and he mainly did massages for an amateur football team! I thought this sounded suspiciously like a set-up for a porn film, but decided to go with the flow. His English wasn’t that great but I gathered that while he had gotten clients from other sites before, I first client from Hunqz. I started to wonder (a bit crazily) that maybe he was a straight masseur who had set up a profile on Hunqz without realising quite what sort of site it was... Either way, by then I didn’t think much is going to happen so I said nothing about sex, and let him get down to business. After massaging me for a while he got aroused and started to poke my side with his erect dick and to play with my ass. He then started to attempt to fuck me. It happened quite suddenly actually and without him saying anything - I actually had to stop him to get him to put on condom. I ended up having a very good time and I gave him €80 at the end of it. It was probably one of my best ever experiences with hiring guys. But the next time I am in Athens I want to try out that cinema, although I wont have the energy for the schedule of Santiaodc!

I was in Turkey three years ago. I had thought I had left a brief description of what I get up to on this site but I can’t seem to find it now. I was basically so nervous when I visited there that at all I ended up doing was booking a guy for “massage” from the Hunqz website. I picked a guy with a few good reviews, which I hoped meant he would not rob me me and leave me for dead. He was a little bit expensive for Turkey - I think he was charging the equivalent of 130 euro for a “massage”. Hi arranged for him to come to my hotel. I was staying at a small boutique hotel on a side street of Istiqlal Street. It was tall and narrow, with only about two or three rooms per floor and a breakfast room on top. On the day the masseur was to arrive it was staffed with a middle-aged male receptionist. He was very friendly, rather camp but a bit cloying. If it had been Ireland I would have been 100% sure he was gay, but as I was in Turkey I was less confident about my gaydar. As the masseur I booked was good looking and muscular I guessed that the receptionist would clock what was happening straight away, and I was wondering if my visitor would have any difficulties being given access to my room. Therefore before he arrived, I informed the receptionist that I had a gentleman coming to discuss business and said, casually, “you can just send him up when he arrives” as if I was about to show him fabric samples or something. The receptionist said he would. So the masseur arrived and came to my room. We had only just started undressing when there was a knock at the door. Obviously it was the receptionist about something. I was quite mortified, but the massage guy was very relaxed and just lay on the bed. I quickly threw on my clothes, went to the door and opened it it just a crack. The receptionist was outside and said “I have set up some Turkish tea up in the breakfast room for you and your guest”. Obviously I had to tell him that we were okay where we were. He seemed a bit disappointed, but that was that. When my guy left I was wondering if there would be anything said to him when leaving. So I stuck my head down the window as he was going down to reception, to see if you left the building fairly promptly and he did. I was relieved as I assumed that meant he hadn’t had much of a chance to be questioned by the receptionist on the way out. However I noticed the receptionist changed towards me from then on. He had been friendly in a smarmy kind of way beforehand, but now he didn’t meet my eye and barely said a word to me. That was fine with me, but I was rather self-conscious coming and going after that!

Great report Santiaodc. And promises of a Greece report as well - would love to read that. I must admire your presence of mind about the Taksim Square encounter - I would absolutely piss myself!

Hi Michael. Will this include a merging of profiles as well? The reason I ask is because although I have more or less the same name on both sites, the capitalisation (and password) are slightly different on both. So an attempts to do it automatically probably would not work. To honest I don’t really mind, I have only 20 or so posts on Boytoy and so would be happy to “abandon” my Boytoy profile in any event. However I’d like to be able to see my previous posts there. On that point, will the historic posts on Boytoy (a thread from 18 months ago, say) will be viewable as one of historic threads on Gayguides? Forrest

I agree, Riobard, it is rather on the nose. I suppose what I was thinking about it was, why would he not be a bit more discreet? For instance, he could have said something like “Cost of protein supplements is so high. Sponsors welcome” That could have been explained away as an appeal for sponsorship by a manufacturer of protein supplements. But also it would’ve been a signal to a certain audience that he is interested in a mutually beneficial arrangement . I was feeling the guy is not exactly the brightest bulb In the tulip field so the simplest explanation may be just that he didn't think about it a much as I am, LOL...

Not sure what you mean by the audience they court, I presume you mean the photos they choose to put up? I can’t help thinking this might cause a few excruciatingly embarrassing exchanges for all concerned if people get the wrong impression... I have seen a rather surprisingly example of this recently myself. There is a young guy on Instagram I follow. I came across him as he was the son of a friend of a friend. He is studying physiotherapy or PE teaching (or some such) in a US university. I started following him because (much my surprise) I noticed he has quite a few sexy pictures on his Instagram feed. He is a straight guy who is into fitness training and he posted photos of himself and a girlfriend wearing skimpy clothes posing at the gym after their training. I followed him presuming he was just a straight guy who is into body fitness. I got a little kick out of following him for purely pervy reasons, for what he presumably thought of as as innocent fitness photos, as he has a rather straight-laced family and I guessed he was probably something similar - several of his own family and his girlfriends family follow him. I noticed in the last few months he had a few sexier photos up, just wearing underwear. I was thinking, “He is getting sexier – maybe he finds he is getting attention from all the ladies in his class for his feed”” Well, then, last time I went on his Instagram page I saw he had added a single extra line to his profile - it stated: “Rent is due” Well after reading this tread there’s only one thing I thought.....and I was rather taken aback. And I also wondered what his family and his girlfriends family made of it. I wonder how he would explain it if his girlfriend’s father asked him what that was meant to mean? I am half tempted to set up a fake account just to pretend I am some Daddy Warbucks and see what he would be willing to do? I am terrible I know... A question for you American guys who are more familiar with US culture, is there any possible other explanation for him adding that line?

Hi Christian, Although you are a bit of a legend on Thai-focused boards, you were one name that I never expected to see on this board! I thought you were so devoted to Thailand and environs that you would never switch. I have been lurking on it for quite a while as I am thinking of going to Brazil also, in fact I may have gone this year every wasn’t for the virus. So welcome to the board and I look forward to reading a trip report in your inimitable style in due course. ForrestReid (Ronan)

My goodness, you all must have been such artistically and literary inclined children! When I was a child my favourite book was a book called the “3000 Question and Answer book” written by an author with the rather wonderful name of Plantagenet Somerset Fry. Like many boys I was a lot more interested in non-fiction than fiction when I was younger and with Mr Fry I was able to sate my desire (to paraphrase Dickens Gradgrind) with “just the facts”. The Guinness Book of Records was a close second. I don’t want to be critical of any previous posters, but I do wonder if we asked their mothers at the age of 9 or 10 what their favourite book was, I suspect a factual books such as the Guinness book of Records or a picture book of Star Wars spacecraft would feature more prominently then “The Little Prince! But all that’s pretty boring for a thread like this, so I will mention some of the fiction I used to like. I have a very vague memory of what I read before 12, except like nearly everyone else in the UK and Ireland in the 70s and 80s, Enid Blyton and Carolyn Keene (Pseudonym of the Nancy Drew author) featured prominently. I always preferred Nancy Drew to the Hardy Boys when younger..... And like many kids I really liked reading children’s versions of Bible stories (which, like non-fiction, is another form of reading I think many adults tend to forget when they are older how much they loved reading as children). I remember in particular a book of rather dramatically illustrated Bible stories which my brother (two years older) had at first. I only realised he had never read it when I drew his attention to what I thought was a rather fantastic looking illustration in it, where Jesus is facing off against the Devil and where the artist had drawn cloven hoofs in the corner of the picture to represent Lucifer. Presumably the artist thought that to draw the Devil in his entirety would be too shocking for young eyes. However, even that was too much my brother who tore out the page to my amazement. He told me that he wanted no picture of the Devil to be any any of his books! I think I was a bit reluctant to show him illustrations I liked after that... I was quite a precocious reader, and I remember being very proud of myself at about age of 10 for a reading a full length Jeffrey Archer novel (Naturally I look back at that with shame now, LOL). As I got older, historical novels piqued my curiosity the most.The fact that in the 80s, they were some of the few mainstream books where you were likely to get a bit of a gay storyline in them was probably part of it, looking back. For instance, I really adored Rosemary Sutcliffe’s “The Eagle of the Ninth”. In retrospect the relationship between the Roman soldier and his Celtic (male) slave which it portrayed it was part of why I think I liked it although I didn’t quite understand that then as I had not realised yet that I was gay. I also loved Colleen McCullough’s series on the last years of the Roman Republic. I was always rooting for the dictator Sulla in the earlier part of series, even though he was bit of a bad boy, because I was hoping for a “happy ever after” with his lover Metrobius. And as an Irish child, books with an Irish theme such as “The White Seahorse” by Eleanor Fairburn (an historical novel based on the life of Grace O’Malley) and the “Run Wild” series by Tom McCoughren (about a family of foxes) struck a particular chord. Would be interesting to see if any non-Irish member has ever heard of them.

Have you a link to the bluesystem website funic? Google came up a blank even when I translated it to Cyrillic

Bitchy Riobard, but I have to admit I laughed....

Ducky, I wasn’t really suggesting that the escorts were moving mainly for holiday reasons, I was more suggesting that they’re moving to where the market is for the summer. Although if an escort guy from Hamburg moves to Mykonos for July and August, it is probably partly to enjoy the Mykonos summer, and partly to be in a place where there is (temporarily) plenty of clients. Perhaps hard to disentangle the motivations in many cases, I would guess. Regarding your point about Hunqz not being that as popular as other sites in countries outside of Germany, I would not be so sure about that. Just as a quick example I looked at Telechapero for Gran Canaria today. It shows 29 guys there are available on Telechapero now. This compares to Hunqz having 42 guys on the 1st of December. So that would suggest that Hunqz is more popular than Telechapero in the Canaries anyway. Would love to see if you knew any sites that had more than Hunqz in Spanish cities, it’ll be interesting to look at more data.

Hmm, It would appear that the guys you see vary depending on whether you are logged in or not. Rather strange, and not helpful to the guys seeking business, I would have thought.

Interesting Riobard! I just tried again and I got 83 when I went out 10 km (I actually went out 10 km for Lisbon as well when I was counting - forgot to note that) My last three when I looked tonight were Blacklx(8.1km), bi-horn-xxl (8.2 km) and Latin_Boy_XL (9.5 km). I suppose you could keep going a bit, as a few of the next guys are presumably in the Lisbon suburbs, but within four or five more guys down I am getting guys in Evora, which is 118 km away. Are you placing yourself in Lisbon when you are doing the count, or are you checking another way?

As Riobard says, what day of the week it is can have an influence too. I would say Sitges (for one) would have a noticeable difference if one compared a month when the first of the month fell on a Wednesday compared to when the first fell on a Saturday. If i was to do it again, I think i would pick the first Saturday of the month to compare, rather than the first day of the month.

What does this tell us? So as can be expected, the was a big temporary jump for Mykonos and Ibiza, from 10 and 25 guys respectively in the beginning of June, to 57 and 55 respectively by the 1st of September, and then down to 2 in Mykonos and 9 in Ibiza by December. What I was not expecting was that there would be such a bias within the summer months. I had presumed that the numbers in Mykonos would have reached their summer maximum by around the 1st of July but as you can see there is a huge jump between the numbers you see in early July and early August, and the numbers at the end of August and early September. Guessing that the reason for this in Mykonos is that there is a circuit party there in late August which probably attracted a lot of escort guys. But there is also a large bias towards the late summer in Ibiza as well. A similar process, though less pronounced, was seen in a Sitges. So if you’re thinking of going to The Barcelona area, or Mykonos for your holidays, it may be better to wait until very late summer if you want to have a good selection of escorts. Also, I was rather surprised by Lisbon and Gran Canaria. I was half expecting the number is in Lisbon and Grand Canaria to be slightly slower in summer than in the winter, as I thought the Lisbon boys might be moving out to resorts, and I had imagined Gran Canaria as more of a winter destination. But actually they too saw a bulge in numbers in late summer. To be precise, they didn’t change that much for most of the summer and then had a big jump in late August/early September. The fact that the numbers increased in all areas simultaneously in later summer surprised me a bit. Where are the guys coming from is the question? Perhaps you have some guys have only work in the business during the summer. Also perhaps you would have seen more of an emptying out of northern European cities if I sampled them. I had assumed that Lisbon and Gran Canaria would have dropped a bit in high summer, but maybe I underestimated how much those places are also summer tourist destinations. I’ll be interested to hear of people think of the figures. If you have experience in those cities does this sound right to you? Remember this is just data from Hunkz, perhaps other sites would show different figures. Let me know what you think anyway. If I were to do something similar next summer, what locations would you suggest?

Earlier this year there was some discussion about where escorts move on during the summer season. Especially with regard to places like a Ibiza or Mykonos. Some people were wondering when those resorts get busy with guys. When is it safe to go to a tourist spot, knowing you will be able to find a guy? A very pertinent question! So, as a service to the readers of Boytoy, I decided to do a bit of an analysis. For six months from the 1st of June I did a little search on Hunqz for six locations. They were Mykonos, Sitges, Ibiza, Torremolinos, Lisbon, and Gran Canaria. Basically, I pretended I was there on the dates and just counted how many escorts were listed. For Sitges and Torremolinos I did a 10 km radius. I picked the first four locations as I thought they were summer resorts. The last two, Lisbon and the Gran Canaria, were a sort of reference as I thought Gran Canaria could be as busy in winter as summer and Lisbon being an urban destination, would probably be as busy, or busier in winter. Starting in June was probably a little late, but late May was when I got the idea. So what did I find? Well, On the 1st of June, here are the numbers: Mykonos - 10 Sitges - 18 Ibiza - 25 Torremolinos - 23 Lisbon - 79 Gran Canaria - 49 And then in the first of July you had: Mykonos - 13 Sitges - 20 Ibiza - 34 Torremolinos - 21 Lisbon - 76 Gran Canaria - 60 Then on the 1st of August you had: Mykonos - 19 Sitges - 24 Ibiza - 40 Torremolinos - 23 Lisbon - 81 Gran Canaria - 43 Then on the 1st September you had: Mykonos - 57 Sitges - 39 Ibiza - 55 Torremolinos - 33 Lisbon - 132 Gran Canaria - 98 By the 1st of October if you had: Mykonos - 12 Sitges - 18 Ibiza - 30 Torremolinos - 31 Lisbon - 91 Gran Canaria - 70 Then on the 1st of November the numbers changed to. Mykonos - 8 Sitges - 11 Ibiza - 15 Torremolinos - 18 Lisbon - 80 Gran Canaria - 62 And finally on the 1st of December. Mykonos - 2 Sitges - 9 Ibiza - 9 Torremolinos - 18 Lisbon - 79 Gran Canaria - 42 So what does this tell us? As that is a bit of a date dump for one post, I will expand on that further on another post.

Thank you for the info enlghlishmun Any Facebook account or address for those bars?

Thanks. Really interesting was to look at some cities, like Hong Kong or Lisbon

Thanks for the info Riobard, but somewhat off-topic, where did you get those maps? The rather dramatic way it shows altitude is unusual, but obviously handy in example such as this, talking about Rio. I would be interested to see some other cities (such a Lisbon) in a map of that style.

Thanks for the clarification Riobard

So I take it (regarding the fare) that in such a scenario you would get the Metro to Torrassa, and then exit the turnstyles at Torrassa to get the T10 ticket and then go back in to get on line 1?

I will be in London next month, and am very tempted to go after reading this thread!

As it is for escorts, would it not be better to give the link to the "hunqz" site above, rather than the main "PlanetRomeo" site, as anybody on a cellphone/mobile wont see any escorts on the main site?

I dont know if it was the time of year or what, that you had such a poor result, but at the moment there are about ten escorts listed for Hunqz for Maspalomas, near Playa del Ingles. A small selection, but enough to have some fun! Some gay resorts, like Ibiza or Mykonos, are very seasonal - at the moment there is just one person on Hunqz for Mykonos, but in July you will find maybe a dozen. They will come for the summer and leave afterwards.