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Thanks to all! I came across Elegantz Spa on the forum and also on Shamlessmack's website thinking of visiting only to discover today that it was raided by police just a couple of weeks ago ... https://www.balidiscovery.com/elegantz-male-spa-raided-by-bali-police/ ... rethinking my plans now. I wouldn't want police bursting through the door as I am in flagrante delicto with an amazing 30yo Indonesian top guy! Perhaps the fun police will be out in force across Bali for the next little while?!?

I'm thinking of visiting Bali for a week in January and wondering if anyone has any recent experiences there? I'm mostly bottom and more into twinky or athletic or slightly muscular asian top or vers or straight guys. Keen to find out the best apps to use, best place to stay for hotel room hookups, cruising tips, rates and places for the "massage" scene where massage is just a side dish etc etc... Thanks in advance for any advice! I will def report back!

Yeh a few I met wanted to suck ... but I meet only vers or top guys as I prefer to do the sucking 😛 ... Like Oldaddy I am researching airbnbs for my next trip in Nov-Dec. They are definitely cheaper and hopefully I may avoid the uncomfortable looks bringing guys back to a hotel. I will stay one week in Manila and one week in Baguio this time around.

I can't really speak to massage spas and bars because I was inundated by messages on Grindr as soon as I arrived, but I can speak a little to guest-friendliness... I stayed at the Holiday Inn and Suites at Makati (June 2024) after a recommendation from this website and although there was security doing checks at every entry point, I was never questioned when I met a guy off site and then took him in with me and escorted him out again. Unfortunately each new guy I brought back to my room ever expanded the grins on the faces of the security people, especially the female ones for some reason, and although it was a bit embarrassing the thought of sucking this hot guy's cock or getting fucked by him very soon was enough to get through that... I would meet my hook up very close by, such as at the entrance to Glorietta Mall next door and say to security that he was my friend as we were having our bags "searched" (opened and then they poke around with a stick for 2 seconds.) On the few occasions I didn't meet my hook up outside and bring him in personally (I was initially waiting for them at the elevators), security would either keep his ID until he went back out or if somehow he got in without handing his ID, they would actually detain him on the way out until he provided my name and room number so they could check I was OK. One guy never checked the room number on the way out and Grindr was delaying messages as usual so he was detained by security for ten minutes before he could get through to me, and then security rang my room to check all was OK. I took a walk by and drive by of several other hotels in the surrounding areas and they looked to have even tighter security with airport style metal detectors at the door, and I was told that some hotels do not allow visitors to guest rooms at all... Hotel security was the stand out difference for me in Manila, especially compared to Bangkok (Ibis Styles Silom) where I would just meet a hook up at the bottom of the elevators and then he would see himself out with no issues at all (Dec 2023). But then I found Filipino guys so much less transactional than Thai guys - not one of my hook ups asked for money even for a ride to get there. They really really get in to having their cock sucked, which I know sounds strange, because don't all guys? Yeh, but it seems on another level with Filipino guys and I am happy to help them out! ...

About half the guys I have met have tried to reciprocate despite me making it quite clear I'm a bottom and don't really respond to being sucked. I think they assume that because I am masculine and not fem in anyway that I am going to have a raging hard on ready to be serviced!... Nope!

All through the day and as late as 1am on one night. The rules have been rather inconsistent as I have at time seen people open their bags for security to search and then go straight through but then others are questioned. I'm not sure what there policy is and where they target particular appearances or ages of what... from what I have seen of the major hotels in Makati and Pasay that I have driven or walked by, its the same.

I haven't, but I'm sure open to the idea of going there in the future!

The second guy on your Grindr screenshot looks very familiar to me! He sure loves a white daddy ass and knows how to play with one to leave you in ecstasy... He totally exhausted me! 😁

@12is12... 1) the green/red boys r only out service, or also in-house at some location? As far as I know they are only an out service to house or hotel. I connected with Redappleboys and booked the two guys I met through Telegram, and paid a deposit of 500 pesos using an app called REMITLY for AUD to PHP - all you need is the recipient's name and number to send from REMITLY via GCASH. I connected with Greenappleboys initially through Twitter / X messaging and then via mobile SMS, but i didn't end up booking any guys. 2) what did u mean by "even meeting two guys at the same hotel"? Wasn't that ur hotel... ? Yes, I just meant they were staying in the same hotel as me (Holiday Inn.) Guests can only access the floor on which they are staying, but all guests can access the Roof Deck (RD) from two of the elevators and so I just arranged to meet them on the roof deck and then take them back to my room. 3) M unfamiliar with the phrase "grindr is as buggy as hell". Guess it means prblmtc. Since I dont have tlgrm/X, would that b a prblm? Sorry, that's just my terminology... I have sent messages and received a lot of replies but some hours or even a day later and sometimes piled up messages that seem to come through all at once. I haven't used X to hookup with anyone, although I could have because there are many "masahe", "MT" or "massage therapists" on X displaying their services and you can contact them through X messaging. On Grindr you will also find guys using those same terms and also "not for free" or "not for everyone" or "for hire" or "4hire" or something similar which generally means you pay. I have been quoted anything from 800 to 5000 pesos for sex with such guys all of which include full sex if desired. 4) do u think most tops would b content with just being sucked? M in a non-anal period... Most of the guys I have met have been suck only, so i would say yes. I read not long ago somewhere that getting sucked off almost seems like a fetish among Filo guys and I thought when I read it that it was a curious comment - after all don't most guys like getting sucked (I don't generally)? But being here I can see what they meant by it but I find it difficult to further explain. Some guys really do want to fuck but just make it clear up front that it's suck only. If they want more they will move on to the next guy I guess. 5) since "awkward smiles" by security isnt a prblm for me, I might stay at the same hotel. Instead of seeing them out, isnt it possible to ring down? I don't know about ringing down... I suppose you could if you give your "visitor" your name and room number and they might ring you to make sure they can allow them up to your room. I initially met guys at the elevators on the ground level street entry after they already came through security. They would have to leave their ID with security if they came into the hotel alone... So I later found it easier to meet them in the entrance to Glorietta Mall which is right next door and then walk with them security as though they were an old friend. I just happen to have a few old friends in Manila... As for leaving, I was initially saying farewell at my hotel room door and letting them exit alone, but if they didn't have my full name and room number they were detained by security until they could reach me through Grindr (or whatever app) to get my name and room number. Security would then call me and make sure I was OK before letting them go. One guy I met complained that they made him feel like a terrorist, so after that I started exiting with them and security wouldn't do anything other than give an awkward smile. This hotel has two entrances. There is one at street level and the other from the third (or fourth I am not sure) of Glorietta Mall to the hotel lobby floor. All visitors to the hotel alone must go through the ground floor exit but I used both entrances alternately to bring guys back to limit the awkward smiles somewhat. There are also a lot of hotel porters milling about on the ground floor at the street level. I hope that helps! I have enjoyed my stay in Manila. I went out to dinner with one of my hookups last night, a very cute and well hung and very interesting 32yo mixed Filo-Spanish-Chinese guy, so making a social thing out of it is very possible if that's what you want. I am not into any kind of relationship other than hookup, fuckbuddy and friend and i make that clear if a guy seems to be fishing for a relationship. I paid for the dinner at a really nice restaurant in Glorietta Mall called Bacolod Chicken Inasal and it was only 2000 pesos for the both of us including drinks and dessert (AUD$50) which is very reasonable. I do really like Bangkok, but as other members have commented in other posts, the constant expectation of money in Bangkok does make Manila a refreshing change!

I (51yo Australian) have been in Manila since Friday night and once again I have found that all my hook-up research and planning before arriving was just not necessary. I looked up massage spas like Greenappleboys and Redappleboys and booked two of the Redappleboys (Karl and Miko) before I arrived. They were beautiful but too young (both 21yo) and unexperienced for this bottom and so in the end that was probably 7000 pesos (3500 each) unnecessarily spent. They both did have beautiful bodies and big hard cocks though that were a delight to suck on... When I opened my Grindr looking for tops I was flooded with messages and any top guys I messaged returned pretty nearly a 100% success rate, even meeting two guys in the same hotel. Only two other guys involved money. A 28yo guy across the street messaged me late one night asking if I wanted a massage and suck him for 2000 pesos so I said yes and then the next night he came back with his cute as a button 23yo friend who he fucked while I watched and sucked off as he rode the older guy... I gave them a nice tip. All other guys were free sex from Grindr and Scruff. Grindr is as buggy as hell at the moment so some have also connected with me through Telegram. I have had 17 sessions of sucking and sucking and getting fucked so far, 4 paid and the rest free. And i think the rest of the week I am here will be repeats because I've met some really beautiful guys that I want to see again. Only one guy was uncut and the rest cut. The uncut guy is one of the most beautiful guys - a 32yo guy from Cavite. Other than the two 21yos from Redappleboys, all the others have been 25-40. The after sex laying, touching and chatting is far more common and far longer than anything I had in Bangkok last year. As strange as it may seem, i don't think I could have learned so much about Filipino people and culture if I was just doing the tourist thing. The fact that so many Filipinos speak really good English helps too. I am staying in the Holiday Inn and Suites at Makati which is nice but the it is both a blessing and a pain to have security at the entrance checking everyone entering and leaving and I get awkward smiles from the guards already because of seeing me bring different guys in with me. I usually meet guys somewhere outside the building or in Glorietta Mall and then walk in with them and then the security doesn't ask them for ID. I have to escort them out through the door again after we finish our fun following their detaining of one guy I met because he couldn't tell them my fullname and room number and the poor guy couldn't get through to me for 10 minutes or so during one of Grindr's bug attacks... The security are very proactive. So my advice for any hotel guests doing what I've been doing... Bring your hookup in with you and then take them back out again! I was also interested in the cruising culture in Manila and research a lot of cruising areas, but the ones I have found so far have too many people around, there are cleaners practically living in all of the toilets around Makati which makes hooking up impossible and I've been too busy to look further afield at the cruisy parks and cinemas that are supposedly here. I have been told the Isetan Cinema at Recto is very cruisy, practically a sex on premises place, and I am hoping to check it out before I leave. I am super impressed with Manila so far and though I had planned to return to Bangkok for my next escape in December, I am thinking of coming back here again. I have managed to see the sites around Manila and I'm going to Tagaytay tomorrow so I'm not spending every hour on my knees or all fours! But when I am on my knees or all fours, this place is giving me some of the hottest experiences of my life... I hope this post helps others... I definitely recommend the Philippines! Twitter / X Pages with Redappleboys including the guys I met - https://x.com/MeduzaRedapple or Telegram number 09932317268...

Grindr is great in Bangkok... I made so many plans for visiting massage spas before my first time back in Thailand after many years in June 2023. No plans were needed as either free sex or (mostly) paid sex was plentiful off Grindr. I'm 50 and a bottom. I'm not really into ladyboys, so I'm not sure about them. As for the paid hook ups it was pretty nearly always 2500 baht for two hours-ish for sucking and fucking, but I seemed to be finding an even bigger cocked guy each time, which I guess was my idea, and never lasted the two hours! I was blown away by Thailand in my two trips last year...

The Ibis Styles Silom is no problem bringing guests in. Just have to meet them at the ground floor to take back up the elevator to your room. Never had any of my visitors pulled up, questioned or glanced at all to my knowledge. But be careful - one guy I had back to my room had taken something before he arrived and started tripping in my room. I managed to get rid of him after about an hour singing and making weird noises in the shower. That's an experience I would prefer not to have again...

Hi all, Just wondering if anyone has experience with the current or recent cruising scene in Manila? There are plenty of videos around of CR (comfort room) and park cruising on various porn sites and also on twitter but they don't usually give the location and sites like cruisinggays and utopia-asia list quite a few but I know from other places that the listings are often outdated... Thanks!

I've been doing some research for my upcoming trip to manila in June and found a huge range in prices for massage guys and their "ES" which I think means extra service?!? On the explore function of Grindr I have found a few young guys who say they are straight but will get sucked and fuck for 1000 PHP plus transport and then I have contacted outcall massage spas like Greenappleboys and DreamboyzSpa that have quoted me 3500 PHP not including transport for up to 2 hours and then a few of the "masahistas" on Twitter who are quoting 5000 PHP for 6hrs of massage and fun... A couple of other places have quoted 1000 PHP for the booking, transport and massage and then negotiate in the hotel room with the guy for whatever extras are desired... That sounds a bit risky to me especially as I usually skip the massage entirely and go straight for sex (I'm bottom). I have become familiar with the Bangkok massage and money boy scene after two trips there last year, but I have never been to the Philippines. Prior to going to Bangkok for the first time last year I contacted a few of the massage spas around Silom and Saphan Kwai to book guys to come to my hotel but then found it totally unnecessary after arriving and being flooded with messages on Grindr. I am wondering if it will turn out to be the same in Manila or if I should keep busy making contacts before I arrive? I have also looked at hotels and noted suggestions from here for the Holiday Inn and Dusit Thani as being good places to bring guys back to the hotel room without complications, but are there any that anyone knows of that are bit smaller but still provide some degree of anonymity, ie not having to greet reception every time you pass? Many thanks!

I was in Bangkok again recently and in between adventures in my hotel room at Ibis Styles Silom with guys I have met on previous visits and new guys, I made a few journeys around the city and once visited an old theatre in Saphan Kwai (Google Phahon or Saphan Kwai Theatre) that I had read about. It is at the end of a Soi pretty much opposite the Big C on Phahon Yothin Road. Quite by accident I visited on the Father's Day public holiday. Entry was 100 baht. First let me say it is bloody hot in the theatre except for a few air conditioners that provided some relief from the heat when standing right underneath them, yet some guys walk around in there in jackets! When I arrived there were a few guys hanging around but I couldn't see much as I stumbled around in the dark. Best off finding the nearest seat and waiting for your eyes to adjust before stumbling around as there are stairs everywhere... While my eyes adjusted I bumped into a couple of hot looking (from what little I could see) young guys who were happy to let me suck them. I think they were together and vasnished after they cum. Once my eyes had adjusted I couldn't believe what I saw ... a huge theatre with hundreds of seats playing mainstream movies (and some softcore straight porn too) and easily over a hundred guys sitting in the chairs sucking and fucking and others walking around the edges of the theatre hooking up in pairs, threesomes and much more. I have been to the 357 Sauna in Sydney a few times and spent the whole time drooling, and although the guys in this theatre weren't naked they were pretty nearly all 20s and 30s and most very fit looking and to me at least it was like paradise... There was cock everywhere and beautiful smooth bodies and most of the guys seemed to be tops with a few bottoms taking it with many guys looking on and touching. I have never seen anything like it... There were a couple of other foreigners there, but so few of us compared to Thais (and maybe others) that we paid each other no mind. Most of the guys there seemed shy to initiate action and it usually took several passes and glances and then a touch to get something started. I ended my visit after a guy with just about the biggest cock I have had took my hand and led me over to some seats and we had a very vigorous sucking session. I am pretty much a total bottom so the activity ended up with me drenched in sweat (and some other fluid) and totally exhausted and I was done for the day. We exchanged Line ID intending for him to visit me at the hotel, but he had to go to Chiang Mai for a few days and we missed out... next time! As I said before, I have never seen anything like that place and I would love to go back there again sometime. If that kind of venue might interest you, then I definitely recommend giving it a look in! I'd love to hear about others' experiences there too if you have been there... 🙏🍆

I was in Bangkok for nine days in June 2023 and used Grindr to hook up with guys, mostly freelance massage / money boys. I used my Line QR code as my display pic on Grindr and have had many guys add me to their Line accounts and make contact through Line since then. I also use the Explore function on Grindr and send messages to guys in Bangkok (in Thai if their profile or bio is in Thai) who I might like to meet and tell them my next arrival date, area I'm staying and what I am looking for, again with my Line ID or QR code (but I don't make any references to money as that will get me banned). I follow the X / Twitter pages of massage shops and massage boy review pages and comment in Thai on some of the posts if I like the look of the guy. I put my Line ID in my X / Twitter profile too. I used Google Translate to begin with but then learned how to read and write most Thai script and now I can recognise the Thai words and phrases that I need to get me to massage / money boys on Grindr or X / Twitter fairly quickly - it definitely helps!... I started off with 16 Line contacts in June and now I have 134 contacts, around 50 keep in regular contact asking when I am coming back to Bangkok. Massage / money boys often use the words "รับงาน" (accepting work) on Grindr but usually broken up in various ways to try to get past the ban on commercial use. I also search X / Twitter (on Google) for the same words "รับงาน" together with "Twitter Bangkok" or "กรุงเทพฯ" (Bangkok) and find some that way. I joined a Line group I was invited to by a MB I met in June and scored a lot of contacts from that before it closed. A guy who hooks up with and takes some really hot video with some BKK massage boys is on Twitter / X at @Gom81840463 or @nubfan44_ or @ninezew or @Tk07659237. Quite a few of the guys in his videos I recognise from the Twitter pages of massage shops and he sometimes adds a link to the shop the guy is from in his post. A few of the guys have added me on Line and I am happy to have them come to my hotel when I am in BKK rather than go to their shop. Pretty much all of the guys I am in contact with ask for 1500 to 2500 baht for one to two hours for a hotel hook up that includes their travel costs. I'm headed back to BKK next month for two weeks, and I am drooling at the thought of those delicious Thai cocks that I am mostly starved of in Sydney!

I used Grindr when I was in BKK in June and had plenty of messages. I usually moved across to Line to continue conversations with prospective hook ups...

Hi all. I am travelling to Manila for two weeks in June 2024. Could anyone recommend a hotel in the Makati area or thereabouts that is set up to allow for (money and non-money) guys to be taken back to my room without raising too many eyebrows? And any suggestions for a 50yo white bottom to find young tops (20s) on the apps or cruising or some other method to have their way with me would be appreciated too! Thanks!

Lots of passionate comments on here about money boys. I pretty much only met money boys (all on Grindr) when I was in Thailand in May-June 2023 (mainly because I was too lazy to put in an effort) and I will probably meet money boys again during another two week stint in BKK in December 2023.... Out of the several money boys I met, only one or two were not stunning to my eyes (I walk around the streets in BKK in awe of how beautiful most Thai guys are.) Only one of the guys made it obvious that he didn't like me and only that one really FELT like it was a transaction. With each guy we agreed on a price before meeting and they seemed to base that on what we were doing more than the time spent. The guys were all very easy going and a handful stayed for hours chatting in bed afterwards and never asked for extra. I was asked by a few of the guys if i wanted to go out with them at night, but I didn't. I regret not doing that and may do in December if the opportunity presents again. I would never dream of looking down on any of the guys I met, even if two have asked for money since I left Thailand (I didn't send it.) They were perfect for me at the time, most seemed like really nice guys, a few still chat with me on Line as I am learning Thai now and I can see potential friendships into the future, which is great especially if I may one day move to Thailand...

I've read a few guys on here have booked a massage boy prior to arriving at the massage shop. When I have tried to reserve a guy the shops send me this Bangkok Bank Pay QR code but I can't use it without a Thai bank account. Is there some other way? I have asked shops on Line, but not really received an answer. Thanks.

I was in Bangkok last month and MBs I met were 2000-2500 baht for about hour though none were clock watchers and more than a few stayed for a chat in bed for quite a while after, which was nice. I found my hookups on Grindr. Heading back in December for two weeks and may try out a few bars and spas and cruising as well!

I haven't been to Pattaya... do you recommend it? I also sent you a private message to ask you about your experiences in Manila... 🙏

There was only one guy I met that i didn't particularly and that was probably more because i sensed he didn't like me but got the job done anyway. The others didn't feel like they were doing a job even though I paid and seemed like very nice guys, which was nice.

Line ID is tawanbangkok and twitter is MassageTawan, but they havent updated for a while so not sure if there may be new Line / Twitter...

I liked the Ibis Styles. It was in a good central location for getting Grab to wherever I wanted to explore around the city, there were plenty of street food vendors and malls very nearby to satisfy whatever you want to eat (typical for Asia in my experience and something I miss when I am in Australia.) It is a busy hotel and the reception is pretty much attending to guests arriving / departing from very early to very late. None of my several visitors were ever checked, but because the elevators / floors are secure I needed to meet each guy at the bottom of the lifts and then take them back up to my room. It was interesting to see one of my first MBs getting onto the lift with another customer at the same time as I was collecting an new MB. Strange experience that was. But the MB was incredibly hot and I had him back several times anyway, including to watch him fucking another guy. Just thinking about it I am suffering severe withdrawal symptoms, I enjoyed my trip so much. I'm already booked for another 10 days in December, and really looking forward to it. Seriously thinking about retiring to Bangkok!