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Well, some venues pay their rent to the Jomtien Complex *office is just down from The Agate*. Others pay the building owners as some of the complex is privately owned. The complex is a racked. The rents are disgustingly high, and go up year on year. They will eventually destroy the complex, which will be a shame. I know of one complex owned bar now paying 75,000 Baht a month rent. And that doesn't include extra payments for use of outside space on the road. As for the land under the complex, I don't know the history but it is still zoned as residential because of either the proximity to Royal land, or it is actually royal land.

Zack (@homebar) explained to me that the reason they won't re-zone the complex from a residential zone to entertainment, thus allowing gogo bars, is because the complex is actually sitting on "royal land" due to a royal residence Pratumnak way.

The shop is not important. Walk past them all until you find a boy you want. Then go into that stop. If you dislike the shop, pay to take him home, and do it there.

That's how I see it. A scam is a trap, a trick. Something unexpected. I don't believe for a second anyone on this forum flew to Thailand and was surprised to learn there was such a thing as a "moneyboy". We all know what we are choosing to engage in.

Delta in 2021. Omicron is Feb 2022. Never did masks. Never vaxed. Arrived back in Thailand in May. Have been challenged once over a mask. Walked out. No my behaviour hasn't changed. I wash my hands when I arrive home and before eating. When I had a sniffle last week, I stayed at home to be socially responsible. It's nice to report that aside from the odd returning tourist who brings it up, this COVID stuff is long gone in Jomtien. The complex feels as it did in 2019, just a little quieter.

I thought after only 7 years experience of Thailand (Living here full time for 5 years) I was still naive when it comes to boys and their games. While I don't know @Gaybuttonpersonally, he seems to be the voice of reason around here. Generally speaking I don't believe these boys are trying to scam you. They are trying to work your feelings and lust to earn money, too pull themselves out of poverty. Are the Khmer boys different? Yes - They still do it with a smile.

Yeah. I dropped enough info here on how to find it. The website has been around for 15+ years. Most members here will have heard of it.

We all have a type! Keeps things interesting. In fact, if any of you know the adult video site private***movie (I'm not sure on the rules with linking, but if you know you know). The barman at Divarium was the latest 4K video (blond hair). This site is blocked in Thailand though, a VPN would be required.

If little Winnie has started that at Divarium, that's crazy. Might explain why his bar has been empty every night for the last 3 weeks. Still, I would ignore him and make your own arrangements with the boy. I won't deal with people acting like "pimps". Having said that, he only has 4-5 boys working for him, and not the best lookers in Jomtien Complex by any stretch. I have a feeling it might have not been the bar, but instead something dodgy with that god awful mamasan he employs (the one that looks like a soi dog and begs for drinks).

Everything said here is 100% spot on. I had a real world example of this recently. I always had the rule, don't shit where you eat. 2 months ago I broke that rule, and took a boy from a bar I visit almost daily. We had a short time and 1 long time in a week, and I was kind of done. I told him I wasn't looking for anything serious. But he made it clear he was. He turned on his stalker mode. The next week was a mix of begging on LINE, and overly affectionate when I was in the bar, to the point of annoyance. He knew what he was doing. I didn't play along, just waited for him to get bored. A week later, it has devolved to dirty looks from across the bar. That lasted a week. For the last week or so, he doesn't even make eye contact with me. I no longer exist to him. He's moved onto new targets. If you are a regular at M2M, and there is an issue, just pull Beer aside (the cashier with the cap) and mention something, tactfully. Having said that, as GayButton said, I don't think it will be needed. Just smile and carry on with your routine.

The new roof on Jomtien Complex will ruin any chance of a New Years from the past. The fireworks from the bridges were always great. But I sincerely hope that Jomtien Complex can have a huge Christmas and New Year. The expats/tourists need it, just as much as the bar owners!

I know a 25 year old ripped Burmese boy who works at a car wash in the day who I think you would like an introduction to. He hangs around 69 Bar in Jomtien Complex, but doesn't officially work there.

My only suggestion is to go to Jomtien Complex just to see were the gay scene is really thriving now. Grab a beer and watch the madness. Bars like as @home bar & cocka2bar always have groups of expats and visitors happy to talk to new guys. You may even find yourself talking to me! Have your fun first though. One must prioritise.

That's really great news. I will try to make it up there as soon as possible.

Your best bet and likely only option in Pattaya will be Boyz Boyz Boyz in Boyztown, but expect a lot of tattoos ( and screaming women ). If tattoos were not a problem for you, the rough trade at Nice Boys (Sunee) might be an option. Jomtien has predominantly twinks, most of which are Lao & Khmer, and most have darker tans. They are not rich Bangkok boys! There are exceptions, but very few, and even then they wouldn't be what you are looking for. The only other thing I can think of, if you don't mind a late night, is go to volleyball (Dongtan Beach) at about 2am. There are usually a few hundreds boys there. Many are available. Dragon Man Club has what you are looking for, but I have no idea how that place operates. Not sure you can off the guys, buy maybe? Anyway, good luck and have fun! If nothing else, Pattaya is a great place to visit.

Damn, when did A-Bomb re-open? It was all boarded up the other day, I was told permanently!

No. There hasn't been any serious flooding. It's been mostly dry for a while now.

For a person who posts extensively about their inability to fuck prostitutes every night while in Pattaya, I get the impression you know very little about this area of Thailand, outside of a few sois. Chonburi is a fantastic area for people to retire. There are golf courses, beaches, social clubs. For younger guys there are sports teams. The variety of food options and restaurants is world-leading. It really is endless. If you go down the coast past Rayong, the snow-birds are there in their tens of thousands. It really is beautiful and they live fantastic lives. Us expats look at you tourists, just as you look at us expats. We all have our reasons for being here. I know many expats who frequent Jomtien Complex every week, but even those without long term boyfriends are not looking for a "short time" every night. Jomtien Complex is becoming more "gay bars" and less "boy bars" by the day. You can pay for a prostitute in most countries in the world. I am not sure it's a good reason to retire abroad. Just my 2c.

And that is why rooms have safety deposit boxes. The rooms that don't should be avoided. At some point we all learned the hard way.

If this happened in a Gogo bar, it's very unusual and I agree with the OP, not good at all. However, if this happened somewhere like Jomtien Complex, I think it's important to remember where you are. A very insightful British tourist said last week while chatting at @home bar, that often Jomtien Complex feels like a social club. While 20-30% of people here at the moment may be tourists, the vast majority are expats who are in the same bars, with the same customers and same boys, most days, if not all days of the week. While not the case here, it's also important to mention that a large number of Asians who drink in Jomtien Complex are not there working, but out for a drink after work. Although many will quickly become a freelancer for the right price. Jomtien Complex is largely an expat location. Hopefully a busy high season can change that. Over the covid period, many expats kept these boys fed and housed (those that couldn't go home). I am still aware of a good number of Complex boys who are still living with farang, but working the bars at night. I personally am very friendly with a few boys in Jomtien, drink with them often, but it will never be anything more than that (they are not working there). Would be interesting to know what the boys story is, if you see him again. Either way, I hope this doesn't happen to you again.

Right? I'm going to ask Doug for my own seat, so I never have to leave.

I can assure you Doug, the owner of Toolbox has no intention of opening a bar in BoyzTown. The dancer you met is a lovely guy who I believe will be arriving in Pattaya very soon, as with many of the Toolbox boys & dancers. One arrived yesterday. Toolbox was the best bar in Cambodia, probably Asia. Anyone excited for it's return should be looking in the direction of Jomtien Complex. Quite honestly, I can't wait and I really hope it happens very soon.

Toy Boy is open - With new signage/name. But locations, staff, ect are all the same as before.

There is a new app named BOLT. It's like Uber, but super cheap. You can get air conditioned cars around Pattaya for 1/2 the price of a motorbike taxi.

Jomtien Complex has changed a lot in 3 1/2 years with many new bars, pop-up bars and cafes. I was pleasantly surprised. Having said that, some things, never change. Home Bar is still the same and Zack sits in the same spot each night. Cocka2 is still operating, although that top end of the Soi can get a little too noisy with bars fighting for music dominance. There are actually more bars now than there have ever been. 69 Bar and B.N Bar (Big Nuts Bar) both opened this month.