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This is Thailand. Hotel staff know what's going on. They see it everyday, many times. Some hotels may charge you a "joiner fee". Whether they are cool with it or not is not a worry for you. If you choose a hotel that most people here stay at (many threads on that topic) it's standard policy with most guests that they will be bringing new friends back to their room. I had one experience at a Pattaya hotel where the receptionist messaged me on Grindr when I took a boy up to my room, asking to come join. I declined, but it was funny. As for the ID. It's actually Thai law that all people in the hotel have to be registered. Many hotels will keep your new friends ID behind the desk till they leave. Some will even call your room to check everything is OK before returning their ID to them when they are leaving. Again, depends on the hotel you choose to stay at. As for bars, and if they have short time rooms. Some do, some don't. But if you don't want to take a boy back to your room, just ask them where to go, or the mamasan before you leave. You are never far away from a short time hotel. It's just an added cost.

So from your photo, looks like last time you were sat at @home bar, looking across at Sun Bar. Sun Bar has now moved, and the place you were looking at is called Jewel Bar. It has a handful of Cambodian boys, just as @home bar does. Sun Bar is a mixed bag with a lot of Lao boys. As said above, if you walk down the street and see a boy you like, go sit in the bar, call him over and buy him a boy drink *normally 40 baht more expensive than yours*. This money goes to the boy for his time. If you have a boy sit with you it's expected to tip them. 100/200 baht seems to be common. If you want to take the boy home, you will pay the bar a fine. In Jomtien Complex this is 300 baht. Generally speaking the boy gets 100 baht of fit, the bar keeps the rest. As for what happens away from the bar and how much money you tip the boy at the end, that's something I would suggest negotiating fully before paying a bar fine.

Political correctness / woke nonsense makes me sick to my stomach. Just as your politics do. Next.

This is a grotesque comment. Get some grasp of Thai language and you will understand why they are not MEN. In Judaism, you are a MAN at 13, in their culture. Applying Western words and ideas to cultures the other side of the world only shows lack of cultural awareness and intelligence.

gogo man. That's new 🤣 Sound like English street rats running from a crime scene.

Yup it was you lol. I shook your hand in cocka2 bar. I also organised that freelancer boy for you at Lucky Bar!

Because last week a Burmese gogo boy who I have known a few years was in Pattaya with a customer, who was head over heals for him. It would have been a funny coincidence, but not in this case.

You didn't happen to take him to Pattaya did you?

Most immigrant working boys rent rooms monthly, or their friend does and they stay with them. Very few stay alone. 2/3/4 to a room. Sure they return home often to see family if they are illegal, or do a border run (although some have agents that do it for them). Keep in mind many are straight, and live with their wives or girlfriend. It's extremely difficult for immigrants to get long term leases, not to mention save up the 2 month deposit, which is asked in most cases. Especially with condos. As for the love part. You are probably 1 of many customers he sends these messages to daily. Don't fall into that trap. Long game or short game, it's all down to money. I have never heard of a gogo boy working to find love, and not money. Prove me wrong if you want. Find a boy in his first couple weeks, maybe it's possible, but once he's in the game and understands it, you are an ATM to manipulate for cash, if you show yourself as a mark. As for the salary part, that's an impossible question. It depends if they are employed, on a Work VISA, what time they turn up to work to be paid for the day. There are simply too many variables. Generally, the answer is no. They don't get a salary. They live off tips, their cut from bar fines and well, whatever you give them. Keep in mind many have multiple sponsors who send them money because, well, they are "in love". You seem very new to Thailand's gay scene. If you want to find love in Thailand, you're not going to find it in a gogo bar.

This seems to be the current concern with Jomtien Complex. I don't for a second think anyone wants it to fail, but change is needed. Currently there are roughly 10 bars for sale. Maybe new ownerships will bring new ideas and better co-operation.

There is too much animosity between bar owners. The Thai owners don't always see eye to eye with the farang owners. In some cases there is real hatred between some of them, who actively go out their way to try damage others businesses. It's far from an ideal situation. Some of the worst offending bars are not in it for the money. They have sponsors with deep pockets, and use their establishments as their own party place. Getting drunk is their motivation, not profits. Unfortunately, the complex management have little involvement in day to day activity. Maybe if they did, it would be better. 4 years ago, it wasn't like this. The soi was very different. Owners got along better and this current noise issue was only present on big parties, which was something all bars do for anniversaries and big events. COVID changed things. I would also assume that some are getting desperate with the lack of visitors.

Indeed. I went for a walk about 11pm. I managed 10 minutes in cocka2 bar and had to leave. The noise from next door was beyond a joke. Headed down the soi and got called into Home bar, but Sun was drunk and everyone knows what that means. All the customers had vacated the soi and gone around the corner where it's quit.

It always shocks me that Russian families choose to stay there. There is no escape from that place without passing a boy bar or boy massage shop. What do they tell their kids? Don't look at the naughty gays?... It could be more likely that when mum is babysitting the kids at the pool, Daddy slides out to Soda for a happy ending.

Yes, that area is always busier than the main street. It's quiet, prices are lower and people can sit and have a conversation. Angel Cafe do great coffee, smoothies (same with Meeting Place). Not sure why other places don't do a more varied drink menu. Lovely Pizza on the corner is very good, and Nong Nong opposite from Soda has some great Thai food.

The only place I have found in Pattaya more expensive than Jomtien Complex is BoyzTown. Pattaya beach/Jomtien Beach you can get a beer for 50-55 baht. Some girly bars do 40 baht happy hours. Walking Street you can get beers for 80-90 baht. Jomtien Complex is 90-120 baht depending on the bar. It's hugely overpriced. As for the loud comment, you haven't been around much clearly. Many expats have migrated from the main soi, around to the smaller, quieter bars near Dicks Cafe. With @HomeBar, Jewel Bar, Sun Bar, Dragon and Palace always fighting over music dominance it's often impossible to have a conversation even when shouting at each other. Many people I know simply refuse to go to those bars anymore because they can't hear themselves think. When ? and 69 Bar join in the madness, the whole soi is a write off.

It's the same group of farang most nights at the moment, but most are not expats, just long stay tourists. They are usually with the twins (S & M), Det (part owner of @home bar) ect ect. Not sure I would call any of those boys upscale. When they are on the beach at 6am vomiting Kratom tea and rolling around in the sand, well.

This weekend has been worrying to see down here in Pattaya. Jomtien Complex is a ghost town. Nobody has seen the start of low season look quite like this. Saturday night at 11pm, I would estimate less than 50 farang in the entire complex. It was mostly just boys drinking. Comparing this May / June to last year, it's a shocking sight. The general consensus with expats, is low season last year saw the return of people desperate to get back after the border closures. It's safe to assume that desperation has dissipated. Last night, Sunday, saw a few more customers on the main strip, but certainly under 100. Over 15/18 bars, that's not sustainable. It will be interesting to see what happens on the 10th of June for the Pride event. Can anyone chime in who might have been here for low season but decided not to? Is it flight costs? The very hot summer? Or have you simply found a better destination? Maybe you are in Pattaya, but Jomtien Complex is too loud and overpriced compared to the rest of the city? It's going to be an interesting low season, that's for sure.

World Pride? It's all going a bit far now isn't it. Either way, Thailand shouldn't get it till they have equal marriage laws. Not that I will ever understand why anyone would want to be married.

These days, I use Blued exclusively. It's probably the most used app out of all of them. Might not be as useful for a sex tourist or pensioner, but I wouldn't know.

It was a lot longer than 4 hours, and I live on the road it happened. 2 years to lay a new road already. It's unwalkable, dangerous, both on foot and by car/motorbike. There have been 2 road deaths in the last month on the same stretch of road because of the dangerous conditions, and after 2 years it seems to be getting worse. I feel sorry for the guy, but only an idiot would be walking there. A mine field in Afghanistan would be safer.

That's not the case at all. That's the rule in Europe. There is no restrictions on number of air entries. I know someone who has been doing back to back visa exemptions for over a year. He is pushing his luck, and he knows it. So to address the OP's questions here goes:- 1. You didn't have a Tourist Visa. A Tourist Visa is applied for at a Thai Consulate or Embassy in your own country, or neighbouring SEA country before traveling to Thailand. These are 60 day tourist visas and take up a whole page in your passport. They usually cost in the range of $40 USD and require a butt load of paperwork. 2. What you have had on your prior visits is a visa exemption stamp. Arriving by air, there is no limit on these. Land borders you are only permitted 2 per calendar year. Having said there is no limit, it doesn't mean you are entitled to one. If an immigration officer believes you are living in Thailand without a VISA, they can, an have turned people away and told them to go get a real VISA. It's rare but there are stories on Thai Visa. 3. When arriving without a VISA, as you will be, the requirements are:- - Proof of onward travel / return flight - Proof of funds (20,000 baht in cash (USD-GBP-EURO also ok) - Proof of accommodation, hotel booking is fine I was questioned once, but when I provided my exit flight booking and a stack of 1000 baht notes I was stamped in. But I was told to get a real VISA as I won't get in next time. In your case I don't think you would have problems at all as you are clearly a tourist, all be it a regular one. See you at Pride in Jomtien Complex!

Speaking to some of my Thai friends, they are hell bent on change. It's going to be an interesting time here in Thailand. I hope they get what they want.

He did used to work at Bangkok Massage. He's one of the other things I miss about Bangkok!

I slept though the drama it seems.

Old guy near Malasia Hotel in Bangkok. The booze shop near Bambo Bar in Jomtien. It's never hard to find alcohol if you forgot to buy some before 6pm.