Olddaddy

Sorry ,you just have the same attitude as John,though you were him ! My bad

Great point , I guess not really nowadays as much . But I was just talking to a old time boy in jomtien complex who told me not many farangs because prices are rising too much established by bar owners etc ,he is a freelancer.l,but beers 120b in beer bars etc he mentioned that was keeping expats at home while go Go bars 250 etc Can I ask the rough price for sex in Guatemala? And other places

You aren't John are you? The guy who sat next to the boy I was drinking with and completely ignored me?

Whilst Thailand is still a cheap place for Gay4Pay sex encounters,it's service cost is rising So by the time you buy a drink, boy drink ,off fee I see now in Pattaya at some place 500/600 plus the boy tip etc it can be costly every night,unless of course you can negotiate over the apps . So where are the cheapest Gay4pay countries?

The ironic thing is back in 2009 when that middle aged Belgium guy done that to me in corner bar,U actually used reverse psychology by talking to the Farang who was a expat and buying him a drink, suddenly he didn't want to know the boy anymore and I ignored the boy after that

But there's a difference you mention. Your not approaching the boy ! If your sitting with a boy ( in a beer bar) ,bought him a drink and was sitting next to him chatting and I came along sat on the other side and either started talking to him or bought him a drink, that's the difference

I don't have deep conversation with them about the sex life of ants on Africa...it's usually where U come from? Etc

I can't understand what this person was thinking unless he thought you left? But when he seen you come back he still sat there? I don't understand why

This is the 3rd time this has happened in the last 25 years of coming to Pattaya but still it makes me angry. The other night I'm in a bar bought the boy a drink, sitting next to each other,the boy says hello to John or whatever his name was, john sees the boy with me but ignores me and sits on the other side of the boy. John completely oblivion to me starts chatting to the boy who turns his chair to John. Now john didn't bother to buy the boy a drink but obviously knew him as a customer I was going to say something to John but thought let it go This once before happened to me in about 2009 in Sunee Plaza which a farang butted in and bought the boy a drink whilst he already had one !! Just right in front of me got on the other side of the boy and bought him a drink !! Me sitting there looking a dummy ! , I then walked away leaving the boy and the Farang , later he went too and the boy came back to me in the bar ,I just paid the boy drink without tip and left too after that ! But guys !! Surely Surely you must SEE the boy is SITTING with another farang ???? Why would you do that ? Should I get into a physical fight with the interfering farang? Its just plain rude surely you are not that ignorant? Is it a power play ? Have to feel like your powerful ?

Omg your right ! I will have to carry hand sanitizer I tipped 500 baht to suck him...but if I was just wanting i think 300 is ok. They seem to have a "time limit" on the drink maybe 10 minutes?

I tipped 500 ,bought him a drink,sucked his dick around 10 minutes

Guys help me out ,I feel dumb I'm in Pattaya now and I haven't been in a gay go go for years. Last night I was in one, had a boy sit next to me bought him a drink etc. I touched his dick ,he drank the drink in about less than 10 minutes, I should be honest , I touched his dick and sucked him for a few minutes didn't cum How much is a tip that's not under or over Now I saw other farangs kissing boys next to them ,one in particular didn't look like he was enjoying it but on leaving the Farang must of left a small tip because the boy never even said goodbye to him and opened the folder and turned his back on the Farang. I noticed he had been deep kissing him for like 20 minutes

I like the Zing,the day manager is always very nice to me everytime I walk past etc, I find it run efficiently. May I ask what problems you had at the Zing We all have different experiences so just like to know

Joiners are ok at Agate, I prefer Zing resort but Agate is more modern rooms & a bit more expensive. Not sure about East Suites though

Nowadays do they still have the adult DVDs at the markets ? Obviously you can watch them online ,but I can't remember that night markets I went to a few years ago that sold dildos ,DVDs, poppers etc

Went to SM mall Asia last night, the biggest shopping mall in Asia situated on the waterfront area near Conrad's casino hotel Action in the toilets at SM shopping mall Asia ! My Filipino bf was being sucked off in the cubicle , a lot of bisexual Filipino daddy type in there though obviously family men wanting a bit of action,not my cup of tea. As for Siam roads tour guide still no response from that gay tour company so I won't bother with them,I'm a little bit sad as I thought they were reliable and wanted to book day & night tours but no response to my umpteen emails. Gay night life here there is the Apolla , haven't been though bits a gay male table top dance club. Last night walking thru Malate a suburb of Manila I'm being approached by both younger guys & girls for room massage but some looked a bit young and I don't want to start checking identity etc ,no doubt they were 18 just I didn't feel in the mood ,but I guess I could of tipped the security guards to check. After today I will head up to Angeles City which is a red light city 2 hours north of Manila. Grindr is far different here in Manila than say smaller cities as Davao etc,the guys look younger here in Manila 18ish and obviously are more money boy inclined rather than the other cities who seem just to want to have sex Seems no free sex here in Manila unless your into daddy types .

Manila is extremely busy, you have to get used to it, I can't say it's like Bangkok though Filipino people seem to be more aggressive in their approach, they push their way into buses & SkyTrain etc . They don't seem to be as placid as Thai people , you could easily upset these people I find ,they aren't as friendly or relaxed as Thai people. But it doesn't stop me from looking at the passing eye candy in the street, I have noticed the boys dress very nice clean t-shirts etc I like Manila , I feel relatively safe,no one has been aggressive to me except the taxi touts at the Manila airport..but next time I will know to book a car before I arrive. But Bangkok beats Manila for most things ,it's hard to get taxis here in Manila they don't want to use their Meter because of traffic

Just got the SkyTrain to SM Asia , biggest mall in Asia, hot looking eye candy , could of easily picked up . Got a small mini bus back to hotel, 40 pesos,7 of us squashed in ,a young hot brown skin boy about 18 opposite me knees touching for the 20 minutes ride

Well guys I have had nearly a full day out today and enjoyed Manila . Went to Rizal Park Chinese gardens, Japanese gardens, got the busy SkyTrain. So many many brown skin hot sexy boys all dressed nicely walking around...it's a Eye Candy Paradise I have yet to see any poverty , no crime ,no one has touted me it try to sell me anything, don't be afraid of the rumours that it's dangerous here, the place is over run with security guards on every corner Hot looking eye candy...muscle boys , absolutely stunning looks

Well I'm out & about in Manila , still reeling over paying over 3000 pesos a night for a hotel ! Agoda have these prices then add taxes admin fees etc etc it becomes more but anyway as I told you guys know I have a anxiety disorder so I catasphrize things as my ex pyschologist use to say Having a mental disorder especially travelling in countries like this either makes you stronger or breaks you . Well I'm going to a gay sauna tonight called the bathouse . I have contacted Siam Roads for a tour guide but still havi heard back not that it matters anyway . One thing is I had a few touts approach me to buy watches etc but quickly leave if you say no. I know this sounds silly but I like to walk on the very edge of the foot pavement to " balance" for my morning exercise put my arms out and balance walking in the very edge of the footpath and I think I saw a few touts come to approach me and then must of thought I was crazy and walked the other way 😂

Well I'm still waiting for Siam Roads to reply as I booked a tour guide , so hopefully will go on a tour tommrrw

Well arrived Manila last night 830pn, taxi queue was a mile long all unorganised of course ,nothing like Bangkok. I booked a hotel on the app , all seem very expensive here in Manila compared to Bangkok. One thing I found out is never think it's the hotels advertised price. Agoda says a hotel is 2100 pesos a night ,then you click it on then they add taxes , admin fee etc it becomes 1000 pesos more by the time you go to the payment page !! So anyway ended up paying 3100 pesos for a 3 star in Malati , expensive Manila ! Actually I'm starting to appreciate Bangkok far far more after being here in Manila and seeing it's disorganisation So me and bf decided to walk away from airport, into a nearby street and to be greeted by touts " where you go ,where you go? Ended up paying 500 pesos to malate ! Had to, no taxis available and grab too busy Grab qouted 455 so not much difference but this place compared to Bangkok is expensive. Our hotel 1970's style which is in centre of malate would be around the 2000.baht mark in Bangkok ,here in malate with taxes,vat, admin fees, Agoda fees etc came to 3200 pesos a night ! Maybe during the week the qouted from apps such as Agoda go down. Now one thing I should of learnt by now is .....never book a hotel more than one night , I always see what it's like the first night ,but this time I didn't and booked 2 nights only to see the Agoda app drop the price to 2000 pesos tonight ! Anyway guys sorry for being so negative this post ,I will see how Manila goes in the next few days,it's not my cup of tea at the moment. In fact I probably prefer my old stomping ground of Thailand but that may change as I wander Manila I'm staying Manila bay area Now sorry to sound so negative about experiences just I'm used to Thailand. My Filipino bf has told me to angry last night to stop complaining and whinging & accept that this country is more aggressive style and I would say more expensive than Thailand but anyway it's a experience I guess , Anyway arrived hotel last night my bf was angry or fed up I was whinging/ complaining a lot so went to bed as soon as we arrived I will see today it's about 7am right now so I'm heading off into Manila city I just hate it when companies like Agoda add all these taxes etc,they don't do this in Thailand. But anyway today I will stop being so negative , this country is making me one of those whinging old men 😂😂 ...to be continued

Just sitting in my hotel lobby waiting for my taxi to the airport 500 pesos I think Filipino money is equivalent to Thai baht They let me check out late for no additional cost.at 2pm I last had free sex guy 27yo at 1230pm today in my room. Got him off grinder ,said im checking out at 2pm he said I'm a electrician in the area and I can come around and light your spark I'm near your hotel now Sucked his dick, he was clearly married, obviously doesn't tell his wife , anyway 27yo boyish face, lean brown skin fit tradie body , but cock too big ,I wasn't going to risk the noise as I heard cleaning staff outside my room giggling. 15 minutes into it he had blown his load and I refused his unloading in my mouth, he answered I presume a electrical customer call whilst he was getting dressed and flew off quickly obviously ashamed at himself 😅 So now 6 guys sucked over 3 days if there was no sex here on Cebu it would if been boring . I have to stop asking ,are you moneyboy? Are you moneyboy? Everyone on grindr I'm asking this question and getting boys replying back that they are offended ! Some even go into detail, " you have asked me that 4 times ! " I don't need your money Sir !! this is to guys with huge dicks & abs I'm replying back to me ? But...but . Why would you want me Im thinking a chubby granddaddy? But this was here in Cebu & Davao, doubt if it will be like that in Manila ? But I ask them repeatedly because I'm so used to money for eg money boys in thailand.....i can't understand why these young hunks in Cebu want to fuck me for free ? There are some negative to free sex I have found out , you have to find guys , either in apps or walk around and talk to guys working in shops etc it's a lot of work hunting !!! Secondly you can't ask for exactly what you want eg if I want my butt slapped I can't ask a free grinder guy would he do that ? Can U slap my left butt cheek for example like I can with a money boy Anyway today I was in Anytime fitness in Cebu I'm on the treadmill logged onto grinder there are like 12 exercise bikes at the back of me all full., I get a Grindr message from a blank grinder profile " nice ass cheeks Daddy " I look behind me , I see all bikes full and no one really looking at me 😅👍 I think rather than have guys clinging onto you everyday you better to hire a day or night tour from Siam Roads gay tours to get to know the area so your confidence to be by yourself hunting for either free sex or gayy4pay boys . I mean you might want a clingy guy to be with you everyday and you can find that here but I prefer to be by myself, I made the mistake of meeting up with my Filipino Aussie bf and he doesn't like walking as it's too hot etc and doesn't like what I like looking at ,eg artitechure and Asian boys etc .. he likes casinos and farang guys like that better to come alone and you can do what you want when you want and have better chance of meeting guys alone ! Just hire a tour guide for a few days if your not confident

Guys I'm off to Manila tonight just checking out of my hotel here in Cebu . My plans this week to book the tour guide in Manila if he is at. I should of booked the Cebu Siam tour guide I guess rather than wander around aimlessly. Cebu is ok it reminds me of the Gold coast Australia, except there are no nice beaches I can see directly around . I probably won't come back to Cebu. Things I would do differently are do my research first , I do like casinos so there are a few big ones here full of Chinese & Koreans , attractions here are ocean world marina,shopping malls ,nothing to really excite me. I probably would stay in a less price hotel ,you can get decent 3 star here for around 1200 pesos a night not as cheap nor good quality as in Thailand for that price though,here I'm paying average 2500 pesos per night around 2000 baht a night I guess in Thai money But as I said I think Pattaya still wins over Cebu for me except there's unlimited free sex here in Cebu. But guys if I done my research better or even went with that tour guide from Siam roads I would probably enjoy it more because I would have more knowledge . Anyway I'm off to Manila then to Angeles City

Guys I'm leaving Cebu today and heading to Manila Can anyone give me the link to the gay tour guide advertising here for Manila ,I will book him this week on a night tour . My impression of Cebu ,it has different infrastructure, big shopping mall looks like royal garden in Pattaya , just the crazy traffic here and many areas lack of footpaths . There are many old farangs here, I have no idea what they get up to,however yesterday I went to Ocean World which is a big aquarium and had a wonderful time. I have my opinion that Philippines is the Land of shopping malls,they the Filipinos luv shopping malls and eating fast food ,to me Cebu is expensive in terms of buying food as they all seem fast food chains here but yes you can buy street food too. I gathered by the taxi driver that Cebu is more for diving, snorkeling etc and I'm not Into that So next time if I was travelling I wouldn't travel with my Filipino bf again,Better to be by yourself so you can meet guys rather than have someone tag along with you ,I sent him out by himself to the disco the other night just so I could meet guys alone on Grindr. Total guys I/we met over the last 3 days were 5 guys free Just about to check out of our hotel now and Grindr is still going berserk. Would I come back ? Possible,but maybe just a few days as there is nothing for me to see here , and if I did it would be alone and I could meet (free) guys in the street and shopping malls etc I'm 62 so if I can meet guys for free you can. I guess also I would do more " research" into Cebu before so I can plan where to go. So meeting guys is grinder mostly . Its more expensive than Pattaya here I'm Cebu in terms of hotels although i guess if I don't my reset I could find cheaper hotels The place is crowded everywhere,shopping malls ,fast food restaurants etc,I have yet to see genuine poverty here in Cebu it even Davao ,not one person has asked me for money . Taxis are plentiful here in Cebu. I don't think I would come back though , I can't really see what the attraction is for these farangs living here ? Anyway I'm off to Manila tonight I think that will be better Last night I sent my bf outside and Grindr was pumping ,I always put in my profile No Money Boys . And then I confirm it with them if they want to visit, had a 27yo guy last night,looked younger ,he topped me , biggest dick I have ever seen , I had to send him countless messages to confirm he didn't want payment but he didn't ,he was a personal trainer at fitness first so didn't need money,no idea why he wanted to fuck old guy like me ,but lunchtime is the busiest on Grindr here in Cebu, bisexual straight guys in their lunchbteak want to be sucked off .