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The link you posted seems to be down, Riobard. Do you think the place is worth a visit?

Hi everyone So I will be going to Rio soon. I remember reading about a sauna, maybe around 20km from Rio. It was described as seedy and run down, with more 'next door boy' type GPs (big dicks but average builds). What was the name of this place, and does it still exist? And if does, is it worth a visit?

Yes, they were all ok with EUR 50 - it is only when you ask for extras like French kissing or condomless BJs when they want more money. I also found that agreeing to pay more makes them more obliged (I guess) to provide a better quality service - more so than consistently tipping. For example, and without wanting to get too graphic, the Colombian guy kissed *really deeply* with tongues, it was really full-on with lots of exchange of saliva. To me, this was going above and beyond, I am quite sure he wouldn't have done this if I had just paid the standard amount / tipped him previously. To me the extra EUR 10 I paid at the start represented a very low "marginal cost" (so much more pleasure for a little more money). On a separate note, young11 how do you think Thermas compares with Club 117 or Pointe 202? I genuinely feel Thermas Barcelona gives the Rio/SP based saunas a run for their money. In terms of quality, I think that while your average Brazilian garoto is generally hotter (better looking, nicer body, bigger dick, etc), some of the Thermas boys are absolutely stunning, and they tend to be more willing to please (especially if you pay them a little more). Also the prices are not that wildly different (assuming going rates in Rio/SP have been inflation adjusted since 2018) - EUR 50 is cheap as chips! If you are Europe based, I see no reason why you would want to travel to Brazil when there is Thermas on your doorstep!

Okay, so I've just come back from a trip to Barcelona. Not gonna lie, this trip was purely about sex tourism as I have already visited the city several times and seen most of the sights. Sauna Thermas was incredible. The going rate is EUR 50 for around half an hour - insanely cheap. Most of the guys are from Latin America: Brazil, Uruguay, Columbia, Venezuela and Costa Rica. There are also a few Eastern Europeans from Romania, Bulgaria and Poland. I went on five consecutive days and engaged the services of around 10 guys. I will highlight the memorable experiences below: 1. Douglas (from Colombia) - I noticed this guy touting for business as soon as I left the changing rooms. He came up to me, introduced himself before revealing his hard cock. He was around 25 years old, had a beautiful toned, smooth body. He wanted EUR 50 but when I asked him if he would be willing to french kiss, he said he would be happy to do it for EUR 60. The extra EUR 10 was totally worth it. He was a very generous kisser and stayed hard while we were making out for alteast 10 minutes. His cock was the perfect size for fucking (7 inches but not insanely thick) - I had him fuck me missionary, it was intense the way he was looking into my eyes with "I'ma fuck you hard and deep" stare and then proceeding to do just that. 2. Jan - a very hot Brazilian muscle stud. He told me that he was 30 but he looked much younger. He had a body of a muscle god with a massive uncut cock - there was no way I was getting fucked by him as it would have been way more pain than pleasure so this was a muscle worship session. Enjoyed every minute of it. Charged EUR 50. 3. Marek - this was a 27 yo, blue eyed- blond haired Polish guy with a nice body. He was an amazing kisser and gave me a blow job I wont be forgetting any time soon. I loved the way he sucked my balls too. Charged EUR 80 but the BJ made it worth it. 4. Ianco - Romanian guy, nice guy probably around 30-32. He gave me an amazing massage for only EUR 30. 5. Angelo - a young (I would guess late teens or early twenties) Colombian guy, not that tall (maybe 1.65m) but with a toned body (abs and biceps emerging nicely) with a glorious treasure trail leading to trimmed pubes and a beautiful uncut cock. He was very cute and his 'chin strap' accentuated his jaw line making him look masculine at the same time... hard to explain lol. Was reluctant to kiss deeply but I enjoyed being with a boy literally half my age. Charged EUR 50.

I would tend to agree the prices have gone up considerably. You may wish to try Sleepyboy.

Reading floridarob's and numazu's comments on how ridiculously cheap everything is in Brazil atm, got me thinking... Is there any way for a foreigner to open a Brazilian bank account and transfer a sum of money, perhaps around 50K, into it using one of those multi-currency money transfer services (eg. Transferwise)? I'm thinking this would be a good way for me to cover my expenses in my next two or three trips - I literally have nothing to lose as the interest/savings rate in the UK is virtually zero, so I wouldn't be getting any return on this money anyway. But if the Brazilian Real appreciates to 2019 levels, I'd be laughing! My cursory reading around the subject leads me to believe that, although no one has a crystal ball, the currency is devalued and will likely appreciate but this obviously depends on how quickly the Brazilian economy recovers. It would seem that the depreciation of the currency hasn't really resulted in a hike in inflation, as I observed in other LATAM countries (as floridarob and numazu would attest) Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated!

How about the US flag?

I really hope you are joking when you say lots of people would be happy as Slave owners! Interesting point about the underlying reason for the Civil War - makes perfect sense. The issue is that you have people whose grandparents grew up at a time when black people were not regarded as human beings - it is therefore unsurprising that much of the South is racist. I agree with a point that was made earlier in this thread, that you need the 'Silent Generation' to die off. What I don't understand is that the popularity of the Confederate flag kind suggests that some Southerners want secede from the US - this is by definition anti-American. It is by definition unpatriotic. So take Colin Kaepernick's 2016 protest - he took the knee to protest police brutality committed against African Americans. I find it really ironic that the same people tend to express moral outrage about 'disrespecting the flag'.

As someone who is not American, I've been reading about US history.. Slavery, Jim Crow, etc.. had no idea how brutal it was. I'm really struggling to understand why people don't want to remove statutes of Confederate generals - weren't these the bad guys who lost the Civil war? Aren't they fundamentally anti-American? Why are some Americans so keen to memorialise brutal slavemasters in 2020 - am I missing something?

Hi everyone Because I'm now COVID-19 immune (wouldn't wish this horrible disease on my worst enemy), I was hoping to go to Rio and Sao Paulo so as to take advantage of the exceptionally good GBP:fuck ratio. I believe the Brazilian government have introduced bans on foreign nationals entering Brazil - is there any indication of when this ban is likely to be lifted? Also, are the saunas currently open for business?

msclelovr ... so I finally made it here. First impressions: BA is a great city: it has been so fascinating learning about the history and culture. In terms of crime, I really don't think BA is any different to any other major world city - I asked my airbnb host about the prevalence of serious crime (eg. robberies at knifepoint) - he feels this is much less of a concern in BA compared to Rio. Low level crimes are more common (Eg phone snatching, etc.). Obviously, this does depend on the area - I'm staying in an affluent neighbourhood which feels safe. In terms of escorts - good but quite simply not comparable to Rio in terms of quality. Costs are surprisingly low though (on the whole, lower than Rio ranging from $1200-$2000ARS). I had a session with this guy today. He was very good - enjoyed a proper "boyfriend" experience (he was very attentive and generous with kissing, cuddling, etc). I'm sticking to one escort per day in BA as my focus in on tourism - Rio on the other hand......

I will be in Buenos Aires in the first week of July. I've been reading through the various posts on the subject but I note that they are mostly from last year (Latbear4blk's threads on BA have been exceptionally helpful:) In terms of sourcing/hiring escorts -What is the going rate at the moment? I know the prices would have changed since last year due to inflation! -Other than Soytoyo and Leonos are there any other recommended websites?

The Brazilian Real seems to be in a state of freefall and I unashamedly want to take advantage of this, and so I am planning my second trip to Brazil in Dec 2018. These are my planned travel dates: 1.Porto Alegre: 19-21 December 2. Rio: 21-31 Dec 3. Salvador: 31 Dec - 6 January Query: Would the regular saunas in each of these places be as busy during these dates as other times of the year? (Specifically, could I expect a high garoto to client ratio)? Do garotos take 'time off' over the Christmas and New Year period? Also, I'd imagine there'd be a lot more clients than usual with it being the holiday period - I just read one of FloridaRob's post where he commented that garotos do as many as 8 programas per day between the Christmas and New Year period. Would it just be better to defer my trip to next April?

Tartegogo: In response to your comment that Brazil isn’t for everyone. It certainly is for me! As I mentioned, virtually all of my sauna experiences were great, and I could never hope to replicate the experiences I had where I am from (UK). I am already planning my next trip to Brazil in Dec. Sanddunes - Ironically, with a rape allegation hanging over me, the first thing I did without thinking, was to delete my grindr profile as I figured this guy would try to blackmail me some more. So regrettably I don’t have access to these pictures any longer. And no I don't think I gave any indication I was closeted. Gotti: Not wishing to sound as though I am blaming anyone, but some posters on here have sort of glamorised grindr hookups making them seem super easy and guaranteed fun with the implication being its completely safe. I learnt the hard way that it's best just to stick to the saunas.

Part 3 - Still in Sao Paulo So after a long tour of the city, I decided to check out Grindr. I found a hot garoto pretty much within two minutes of looking and agreed to meet him within an hour. I met him outside hotel entrance - he looked much older than on his pictures (looked to be in his 40s). We quickly walked past reception – no eye contact. Wasn’t stopped. Once in the room, he said he wanted a beer, I then told him that I would give him extra money to buy one later. He takes his clothes off – nothing to get excited about – the words “dad bod” come to mind. I ask him to take a shower which he does… and then lays on the bed. He can’t make himself hard – wants porn. Insisting on it. So I get my ipad pro out, put it on for him. Five minutes in to the “session” – he wouldn’t kiss as he promised he would (and actually I wouldn’t have wanted to do this, any way). Wouldn’t give me a blowjob as he promised he would. Out of frustration I just decided to end the session. I had put away my wallet in the safe, having kept 200reals in my pocket (the agreed fee) which I then took out to give him. He then says starts shouting loudly, “no 200 US dollars not reals”. As I argued with him, he got increasingly confrontational and loud to the point it felt unsafe. Then asks me to speak to someone on the phone (a woman) who says "you agreed 200 US dollars not reals… if you don’t give it, he will tell the police you raped him, and believe me you will be jailed. You have no idea what a brazilian jail is like". I ended the call. Obviously what she was saying was BS. But, in that moment, in that situation, I believed her. My convoluted thought process was along these lines - I figured the police would have to detain me if such an accusation is made at the very least. I remember thinking about the Me too movement, about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey – that alleged rape victims views are now increasingly given primacy (and rightly so). I remember thinking my close friends and family would inevitably find out about my indiscretions in Brazil (I’m closeted). I asked to speak to the woman again and explained that I would have paid this amount but in reals but I simply didn’t have that money. She told me go to an "24 hour banco" to withdraw the money but felt that I would be walking into another scam at best or a dangerous situation at worst, so I told her I would just give him my smart watch. He then said "no I want your ipad". I just wanted him to leave so I gave it to him.

Tartegogo - Yes, that is what I will when I am next in Brazil. I just felt it would have been awkward asking them to do this in full view of others, when they are sitting there with you in the bar. As a newbie, I wasn't sure if this would have been considered acceptable. Tomasian - yes he was circumcised. camsi75 and Floridarob - well, I did try, I guess I just have a very low pain threshold.

Part 2 Thermas Lagoa - went on a Sunday Thermas Lagoa teaming with garotos on the Sunday I visited. I can be a bit indecisive so it was hard to pick someone but I eventually settled for a hot black guy in his early/mid thirties who spoke good English. It was nice having a conservation with him as none of the other garotos seemed to speak a word on English. He mentioned that he was married and had a daughter (WTF??). He had an incredible physique (told me he was a personal trainer). I ask him if he kisses, and he then proceeded to give me a minute long demonstration which was amazing. I decided to go with him straight away. So we're in one of the rooms. It's grotty with stained walls, and just seems dirty. The mattress seems badly used and abused and I notice this sticky, wet patch on the bed sheet – totally grosses me out. All of a sudden the garoto disappears leaving me confused trying to work out why he's left. Minutes later he's back with a bunch of towels which he carefully spreads across the bed - kinda sweet of him. We start off with kissing, and he sucks my tongue as if was it cock - felt incredible. We the try 69 with him on top of me. I cum in his mouth (in a condom). Totally worth the 180 I paid him (30 tip). Next experience was a 6ft 2 hairy muscle stud, with short, dark hair and brown skin. He was very masculine (clearly a straight guy) with a sexy deep voice – wanted 150 – I agreed. After having sealed the deal, it dawned on me that over the last few days, I had been living out my ultimate fantasy – having sex with straight guys. This hunk had a really nice cock in terms of it size and shape (curved upwards slightly). I decided with some trepidation to have a go sucking it without a condom. So as I retracted the foreskin and moved closer to his cock, I caught a whiff of him - and let's just say this was real turn off. As with all the other garotos I have hired, it again became clear that penetrative sex wouldn’t work with this guy and he somehow sensed I wanted to be fucked but didn't want him inside me (weird how these guy's can just read your mind). So he then sort of simulated sex by sliding his cock back and forth in between my buttocks – this felt weird at first but it was hot looking at him in action with his bulging muscles thrusting away in the mirrors (on the walls on ceilings).

Okay this long overdue but here are some reflections from my trip to Rio last month. In summary, it was a fantastic trip that was ruined by one particularly traumatic experience. I will post in 4 or 5 instalments. Part 1 Club 117 (Went on a Tuesday and Thursday) I liked the place - decent selection of boys. On my first visit, I picked a white 22 year old, around 5 ft 9, with a great body. Took a bit of courage to approach him but he was super friendly and gave me a firm handshake. He was transitioning from an athletic body type that you see in young guys to one that is more muscular, as you see in guys in their mid twenties. He wore these dark rimmed glasses and had this facial scruff on his strong jawline which made him incredibly hot in a nerdy kind of way. He told me he wanted 120 which I agreed to. In bed, we fooled around, lots of body contact, cuddling, stroking. Lots of kissing – deep kissing with tongues. I loved licking his trail of hair leading to his insanely thick, girthy cock which was truly a pleasure to suck (with a condom). I enjoyed licking and sucking his balls but they were also huge – could not fit them both in my mouth. I chose not to cum as I felt that the night was young, and I thought I might want to sample other guys. I tipped him 50. This was a wise decision because I just decided to hire him again (the very same night), and found him very eager to please. In the second iteration, I tried to have him fuck me BUT there was no way I could "accommodate" him so I fucked him instead. Tried lots of positions, and finally came inside him (in a condom!) whilst fucking him missionary and kissing him at the same time. I loved it - there is no way I could ever replicate this kind of experience where I am from with an escort. On my second visit, I went with an older (25 yo) 6ft muscle stud with a designer beard. He asked for 150 – I didn’t bother haggling as he truly was quite stunning. He had great genetics – big chest, big arms. After a period of muscle worshipping, I asked him to suck me. Although he proceeded to do so, I didn’t really enjoy it (it was a really half hearted attempt on his part). I then decided I wanted to be fucked but again was in the same situation as on my previous visit - this guy was just too big. I came by having him rub his cock on mine. Having been with atleast 5 guys at Club 117 (and I know I can’t make a valid statistical inference from such a small sample size) it seems to me that most of these guys are XXL. Being more of a bottom, I was left disappointed at not being able to get fucked, each and every visit. I will share my experiences of Thermas Lagoa in the next installment.

Thank you all for your replies. A few questions - apologies in advance, some of them are really stupid whilst others have already been answered on these fora - I am just looking for the most uptodate information! 1. Logistics: how do you carry cash/phone on your person if you are only wearing a towel? Or do you just leave the cash in the lockers and retrieve it after each programa? 2. Safety - would I be right in thinking that club 117 isn't in the safest of neighbourhoods and so I should avoid going there by metro? 3. Risks - I read with concern a fellow posters comment that many GdePs are willing to have unprotected anal sex. I particularly enjoy oral sex (giving and receiving) without protection - how risky would this be? I need to assess this carefully - if I am likely to get HPV other such STI after say 5 programas, that would warrant using condoms. 4. I note many people use a downloaded translator app on their phones, is this because there is no or unreliable WIFI in the saunas? Does this still remain the case in the following places: Club 117, Pointe 202, Thermas Lagoa

So I will be in Brazil soon and promise to post detailed reports of my sauna visits when I am there. Having perused numerous posts (a huge thank you to all contributors), I have been able to glean the following: 1. The going rate at the moment is generally R$150 at both SP and RdeJ saunas (but this is subject to many factors) 2. Busy nights at Lagoa are Sundays, Fridays and Saturdays in that order. 3. I am into muscle studs and so I should skip Fragata which is nothing to get excited about in any case? 4. Pointe 202 is best visited on a Thursday. 5. Club 117 is best visited on a Friday. 6. There is a low GdeP to client ratio on a Saturday in all saunas (as it is "date night" for the boys). 7. It's wise to bring condoms and lube, as well as a pair of sandals and towels. Is this all correct? Any additional insights/comments would really help me in my planning. Thanks!

Very valid point, thanks. I will change my location and see if that makes a difference!

Thanks for the reply Badboy81 - well, with this location faker app, it tells other Grindr users that I am right in the centre of Rio... Anyhow, my only reason for wanting to explore Grindr, and I know this sounds stupid, is to ease myself into the sauna scene which scares me a little. Grindr hookups with the GPs coming to my hotel, on my terms, I know I could do. On a separate note, I've being exchanging PMs with a fellow poster, who has given me some great advice about Grindr and safety - common sense safety precautions to take. This person (don't want to name you without your permission!) interestingly contends that the risks of using Grindr in Brazil are "no worse than anywhere else". I would like to open this up - do other forum members agree with this? Do you not think there is a correlation between the escorts' socioeconomic background and clients' safety, so in places where there is more relative poverty (as there is in Brazil), I guess there would be more desperation, and so service providers are more likely to be unscrupulous in their dealings with users?

Thanks for the replies everyone:) Badboy81, I'm actually virtually (rather than physically) in Brazil - using a location faker app on my phone when accessing Grindr. I have "visited" Porto, Curtiba, Rio and Sao Paulo all without much success I'll be physically visiting the country next month and was just curious to see the calibre of the 'talent' I've been hearing so much about ;p Up until three hours ago, my profile pic was that of a solar flare (I know that's a bit random!). I have changed it to a hotel room, as per pauleiro's advice. Interestingly, still no responses as yet. redxs, I would feel a little uncomfortable approaching random people, so I would rather GPs approach me... just out of interest though, what do you say when you message guys? Also, in Rio, how can you tell from a profile if the guy is 'advertising'?

I know that a number of people on here use Grindr throughout Brazil to source GPs. Unfortunately I've not had a single response since creating my account three days ago! On my profile, I have written descriptions such as: "Generous tourist looking for fun. Turistas generosos que procuram diversão." and even, at the risk of being too obvious: "Looking for GPs. Procurando GPs" ...without any success! So how to get potential GPs to respond to you?

I know this is a long shot but does anyone on here recognise this guy in any of the saunas in Rio or Sao Paulo? Here are some more pics: https://imgur.com/a/tXeUN https://imgur.com/a/C7bo2