Riobard

The tell-all novelty of your accounts is telenovella addictive. I kept eagerly waiting for each installment, its creative flourishes, and what course the events would take.

I really doubt the GdeP demanding double is very confident it will pay off, at least in the sauna setting. The menacing posturing is his lottery ticket, usually discardable. Some of the garota brothels with high-end working ladies charge a flat rate: 400 reais for entrance and standard suck'n'fuck with one girl. Believe me, the customer does not easily get a second roll of the dice for free if he is dissatisfied with the one he chooses. Do we want the more cookie-cutter business model at those prices? Probably not. The law of averages works in our favour. We get to window-shop non-commitedly over a cocktail for a pittance, interact and extract phone numbers, have a hot time with at least one GdeP, optionally negotiate particulars of sexual choreography, all for a substantially great price.

For the youngsters in the group, you know we did not have apps and online fora in the 70s and 80s. We have all been as young as 20 and up. If we had online communication then, I think it would have been considered impolite or 'gloaty' to share that we could pick up tricks in a bar, park, church social (including Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence religious retreats), etc, but not describe them a little. Look, I had casual sex with a lot of really attractive guys in my day. Like, a lot. And I simply do not recall any silly top/bottom distinction; you fucked and got fucked. Eventually, you reach an age of majority ... the majority of hot young things look to their age group while issuing you your gay death certificate with a golden handshake, not even the decency of a golden handjob. Not bitter ... had a good run, and no hangups about the sex trade. This forum is meant to be inclusive in that it is not restricted to catering to men seeking info and stories about paid encounters. But commenting about Grindr and similarly sourced exploits is like saying there are gay men who have sex with other gay men. Everybody knows this already and that the bulk of sex that occurs on Earth does not involve monetary exchange. So if you wish to underscore your membership in the subgroup of queers capable of hookups with guys not interested in your money, please at the very least entertain us a little with some tantalizing narratives. Also, discreet photos of your conquests do not compromise the average joe in the same way as they would a working guy. How do you like them freedom of speech apples?

Zeroing in on the OP's details, because the club staff initially impulsively threatened police contact and he simply 'raised them', calling their bluff, the question here is how to generally handle foiled expectations in-house, not how misguided he was at attempting to recruit a badge's intervention. So yes, give up a little on the relatively rare dust-ups, particularly if you want to return for the usually satisfactory experiences.

The dilemma for me would be the verbal contradiction moaning "fuck me Daddy ... take that ass, Junior!" !

But perhaps if the culprit customer possesses Portuguese flunency it would just be a stern talking to.

It appears the very recognizable Jacqueline, who worked 117 reception for many years, is on staff. Will be interesting to see the chessboard unfold.

Sauna W3

I have seen a fraction of the customer base in Brasil doing what I call cheating. I have observed customers, usually tourists, taking a lot of fluff-room liberties but never actually booking a suite programa. To my way of thinking, getting hundreds of dollars of what would be equivalent to hot lap-dances in a stripper club without doling out a red cent to working guys.

A mere 3-5 fakes is equivalent to airfare to Spain or Brazil, worth it to assess the goods up front.

Phallic tree, symmetry of deer and space between them rectal canal, Rip patting his thigh ... "come sit here". Dirty old man!

Anyone over 30 is a 'daddy' type, yet half my age. Lucky for me, I am partial to the daddy fantasy and one of my regulars in Brazil is a 30-something built power-top. Quite serious and without much humor, but accommodates the fantasy ... oh, yeah, school me!

I do not use tourist-zones gyms (academias) but the ones I frequent further north charge 20-25 reais for day use. They let you have a walkthru if desired. They are often upscale even there so I suspect you would pay similarly in Ipanema.

I think that unmet expectations or skirmishes over payment are part of the price of admission, and these factors vary at an individual level. It is not a haircut. My needs as well as ease of arousal and climax at the end of the hook-up, and my approach to the pay envelope, have left me in the fortunate position of skirting dramatic encounters ... so far. I tend not to outline an elaborate shopping list prior to the encounter; after all, the guys' goal is to get me in the suite, full stop. And for me, not many others I suspect, part of the thrill is the unknown and the small details as the sexcounter unfolds. ThIs is not a superior stance, just the way I tick, but I don't think I would bother with these paycations if I had to spend time and energy checking off a series of boxes, other than the potential date's looks floor me upfront. But I grasp the frustration somewhat. What I find I have to roll with sometimes is paying entrance and drinks and ending up bored because the menu is lacklustre, to me anyways (I am picky and fickle, value the ambiguity of newness in GP selection), and I would have been better off splurging on a higher-end dinner. But one trade-off is the chance of snagging Sr Right Rightnow. So the hundreds of reais spent simply looking are not a total throwaway with bitter ending.

What gave it away ... "disagreement over alignment of the finger"?

Pedro Melchiades, on the go-go circuit. Not very approachable compared to some of the other dancers. Was he a 'garoto de programa' years back?

At about my visit's tenth week recently my finicky sensitive tight bttm finally got progressively accustomed to more than a few minutes duration, and I even bust my nut a few times, which I think is key to wanting and embracing it more. Mind you, just managing to sit on Cleito's was a clear breakthrough.

My experiences are also closer to Walker and Sanddunes. But we have apples, oranges, and various varietals of each. I do not pick a guy based on kissing openness, though ... when a macho top does kiss it is a treat, though infrequent. I usually wear a condom for receptive oral because I do not find it less pleasurable and I find I am more likely to get blown and for longer duration after putting it on, a kind of nonverbal signal for elevating the action. (My stated position to them upfront is versatile bttm, open to topping). Putting the condom on sometimes prompts the macho top to question our agreement about who bangs who. I will then say I love to get blown but it is optional and a good way to pass the time ... I usually book 60-75 minutes. The expectation has been downgraded to getting their sensual pouty mouth working over my dick, not topping them. Sometimes it works. It is exciting to play this game a little as I can roll with the outcome. Sometimes when wearing a condom I can negotiate some hot action (erm, hot for me) sliding it between their muscled bubble-ass cheeks without penetration. My nipples are like 2 extra penises, extremely sensitive. The one consistent thing is that every single GP has been able to work me up into a frenzy by taking command of them. It is an easy task for them and I am very fortunate that way. Most who will not deep kiss will still work nips over with mouth and tongue. If he watches the screen to maintain erection for suck'n'fuck, no problem. If he views the shitty porn to maintain erection for optics I tell him to stop the focus on his dick until it needs to be functionally tumescent. Haha ... sounds like a lot of contingencies and adaptation but I have made it work for me. Describing our particular nuances can be a challenge.

On the Grumari topic, can you please describe your mode of transport, how you handled your belongings, phone etc, did you have a wingman ... ?

Sorry to hear some of the guys were obnoxious. I think their sexual "performative labour" is a complex topic. Personally, if they are extremely hot I do not mind detachment because there are usually some GPs to be found who balance it out with more (presumably acted) affection. And I have the good fortune of being able to be aroused by warm interaction OR an edgy swaggering abusive attitude if the guy has the right build and looks. It is usually easy to predict, so however the mood strikes me. In many dozens of programas in the same locations as you reported I have never been aggressively hustled for more cash. If a tip is requested, as I think has occurred very occasionally, I shrug it off and say 'maybe next time'. Or offer a beverage on the credit card tab. Or tell them, if is the case, they will likely get repeat business and to be patient. Another strategy is to play dumb and act confused until they reach the point of diminished return regarding their hustle. At what stage are you getting these demands ... down in the lockers? After the deal is sealed (before the suite) I tell the date I am going to my locker to get my condom/lube kit and to ensure and prepare the cash already agreed on, to be handed over later. It is also not a bad idea to shake on it. They tend to be prideful even if lacking integrity somewhat. Also be aware that if you give in to demands, the news may go viral so that others are poised to test your limits. The staff do not like to be involved, but I have witnessed in the past Jacquie at the desk (she has recently left after many years there) give one of the pushier hotties a stern look while asking the client (as programa key handed over for the tryst) if the fee has been settled.

No need. Why risk having to lie to CBP to cover a lie on the form, and having your body language scrutinized, Pinocchio? Are you not allowed $800USD exemption as long as 30 days have elapsed since previous re-entry (or you want full allowable exemption subsequent re-entry?). And if there is suspicion do you want them to check all your belongings for manufacturing details? Untag, unpackage, launder, whatever, that is your prerogative. But I suggest transparency.

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I thought I read here or elsewhere that Sauna Gran Via, walkable distance from Adan, was also a rentboy place. Their website has the two words "boys" and "massage" together, a few reviewers looking for tricks lament that it has mainly working guys, etc.

Double penetration at those sizes ... show-off!