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So today (Monday) I found myself back at Lagoa around 7pm. They have discounted admission of 50 real Mon-Wed, free cabins and 15 real rooms. FYI, the cabins are really awful - I asked to look at one and they do not even have sheets! So, clearly they are out of the question. The standard rooms are fine, (even if they are small and without a bathroom). Guillherme was writing me all day asking if I was going to come tonight. I hesitated to commit because I wasn’t sure if I wanted to repeat with him so soon. When I got there it was extremely slow - a handful of garotos and clients. Guillerherme found me quickly and we went to the steam room to drink and chill out. Even though he says he prefers to be activo, our chemistry is better with me on top. It was an enjoyable programa, but I felt like he was more enthusiastic last time. I was hungry, so I asked him to join me for dinner. While eating, he introduced me to his younger brother Bernardo. I was intrigued. Were they really brothers, or was this a marketing ploy? Certainly they looked like they could be related, even though Bernardo is taller and more beefy. Both have distinctly handsome faces, uncut cocks, and a shared love of Louis Vuitton messenger bags. Guillerhme goes off with another client, and I go to the empty jacuzzi. Bernardo soon joins me in the buff. His cock is thicker but shorter than his brothers, with a meatier head. He begins to massage me...we start talking in spanish...he tells me their mother died young and shows me a tattoo in her honor, says Guillerhme used to be a soccer player with a Brazilian team until a horrible leg injury ended his career, and that he is bisexual. I ask him if most of the garotos prefer women and he says no...at least half are gay or bi. He suggests a programa, but I’m slightly hesitant. I ask him if Guillerhme would mind. He says no, and in fact they have done a programa together with another client before. Bernardo is very cariñoso with me, and kisses sensually and passionately. I was really blown away. He is activo only and almost makes love rather than just fucks me. And he takes his time - and looks like he is truly enjoying himself. He came shortly after me...easily one of the best programas I have had in Brazil so far... I go to the gym to work out after, and Bernardo comes in and does a nude workout with me. Guillerherme finds me later, and seems a bit agitated. Not because I just fucked with his brother, but because I gave Bernardo 30 more reals than him. I explain Bernardo came and he didn’t, and I also spent 60 reals on food and drinks for Guillerhme. This seems to appease him somewhat, but he tells me next time he wants the same as Bernardo. He seems suspicious that I like Bernardo more than him now, and asks me who is better in bed. I tell him both are equally good lovers...

I seem to remember the conversation about Chili Pepper revolving mostly around people saying the guys there weren’t as hot as you would find for pay at Lagoa, etc. Nobody described it as being the giant blackout-dark, dirty sauna that it is. Although most saunas have dark rooms, here the entire place, even the locker rooms are dark. The few lights they do have in the place are small red lightbulbs. It felt like a weird sex dungeon. Wild Thermas is apparently also very dark, and someone told me on Sundays it is mandatory to be nude there (no towels allowed). It is hard to know from a list like vamosgay has which saunas are actually good. A lot of saunas are dead, have a not so good crowd, etc. and the only way to know that is from people who have actually been there..

Tonight I went to Chilli Pepper Sauna, and was pretty disappointed. It is in an extremely run down area near the centro, with multitudes of homeless zombie-like people roaming around. Needless to say, you should uber straight to the door if you go there. The sauna is huge, with 3 floors and with an outdoor pool area. Entrance is 65 reals on the weekends. I was expecting a larger version of Rio G Spa, but in reality it was more similar to the rundown Cinelandia theaters. EXTREMELY dark inside. Basically the sauna is one big dark room. It was pretty dirty, condoms and wrappers everywhere, smells of urine. It is clear they don’t have a large cleaning staff. There were several hundred guys, but most were the kind of guys you would expect to find cruising in pitch black darkness. The steam room had a strange smell. Seedy and dark rooms are not my scene at all. I realize they appeal to some, but they are just a total turn off to me. I left after about an hour... Does anyone know if Sao Paulo has a non-garoto sauna more similar to Rio G?

There is no minimum tip for the free walking tour, but they suggest 15-20 reals, which is like $6usd. The guides are usually students and are friendly and informative about life in Brazil. Not sure what you are hoping to see in the favelas...I went to Rocinha 2 years ago when it was much safer. I’m not sure if I would go now... I went through Vidigal the last time I was in Rio to get to Dois Irmaos, and saw the next day there was a huge shoot out with police and drug traffickers going on - so bad that they closed all the roads going in and out of Vidigal.

My two favorites at Lagoa

So this afternoon I went to Lagoa again and got there around 6pm. Surprisingly, it wasn’t busy at all, although things started picking up around 7pm. I spotted an Arab-looking hairy, muscular body-builder type that I had spoken with yesterday named Antonio. Hyper-masculine guys aren’t usually my type, but he was actually charming, and proved he could kiss beforehand, so I decided to give him a shot. He was a total activo, and was extremely dominant in bed. He stayed hard the whole time and definitely knows how to fuck. He was not warm and cariñoso, but at least he did kiss. While he was fucking me doggy style he was putting his tongue in my ear, gently nibbling my neck, and whispering presumably the only words he knows in English...”do you like when daddy fucks you?” After going to the gym for a while, I decided to relax in the jacuzzi (hopefully it has been cleaned since yesterday). While there I spotted a garoto with a slim but toned build and a very handsome face. He was stroking his cock when he caught me staring at him. He came over to introduce himself, a Paulista named Guillherme. I could tell immediately that he was exactly what I was looking for. He was vers, said he sucked, and was very sweet, affectionate and liked to cuddle. As soon as we got to the cabin he started enthusiastically giving great head, which was amazing since Antonio ignored my cock the entire programa. 69ing ensued, and Guillherme offered to ride me, which I obviously couldn’t turn down. He was very tight, and after doing various positions I came inside him (with a condom). He cuddled with me afterwards, which was sweet, and I offered to buy him dinner while we watched the show. The strippers at Lagoa are gorgeous in my opinon. Two really stand out the most, I will try to find pics of them somewhere. My only complaint is when they come out hard at the end, they quickly rush off the stage to have audience members put their underwear on. Would be nice if they would dance to an entire song nude. Has anyone experienced the garotos at Lagoa being snobby about which rooms you take them to? They have 4 selections, ranging from cabin (18 real), to room (25 real) to suite (45 real). One garoto started pitching a fit when I told him I was getting a cabin. He told me he only works in suites. After this somewhat shocking display I immediately told him it wasn’t going to work out and cancelled the programa. Also fyi, make sure to tell them you dont need lube or condoms, they charge excessively for them (I think 16 reals). My total bill was around 165 reals for entrance, drinks, food and 2 rooms for 25 reals each.

So I arrived at Lagoa around 7pm Friday evening, and it wasn’t as busy as I remember it being, and certainly less busy than 117 has been recently. Garotos outnumbered clients and were aggressively courting business. I don’t like to be pressured into anything too fast though. There was one stunning model-looking guy that I was interested in, but he literally seemed to have one client after another and I was never able to catch him alone. I also am not sure if I want a GP who has already been up to the cabins 4 or 5 times by the time he gets to me (enthusiasm in bed seems to wane as the night gets later). A very tall Cuban looking guy named Roberto caught my attention. His cock wasn’t as large as his 6”4 height might have suggested, but he had a nice upward-curved shape and was certainly adequate. After getting to know him a little more in the sauna we agreed on 150. He was a very good lover, cariñoso and a good kisser. The fucking was good, but he was only about 80% hard by the end. Certainly he is not the fucker that Bruto is, but I still enjoyed the programa. There were two older clients fucking each other in the jacuzzi tonight, which I found slightly distasteful. Pretty sure I saw some cum floating around afterward. I kind of feel if you go to Lagoa you should find one of the boys to fuck and do it in the rooms lol.

So today I was talking to “Pietro” on grindr...I’m tempted but he wants 200 without cum and an extra fee to travel. So I’ll probably pass for now..

Ricardo from Point 202 got a new tattoo all down his arm. To me it is ghastly, but of course I didn’t tell him that. I’m not really a fan of tattoos in general, but some guys can look ok with them depending on size and placement. This one is just way too much (in my opinion). Also, color tattoos rarely age well.

While the apartment is nice I wouldn’t recommend it or stay here again - the wi-fi barely works, and the overall neighborhood doesn’t have many food options within walking distance. The only good thing is it is just 2 blocks from the metro

So later tonight Bruto whatsapped me and asked if I wanted to do a 3some with him and his friend Diego tomorrow. He said they could do double penetration, which is an insane idea considering they are both hung as fuckk. I’m not really interested in permanenty destroying my ass I told him I would let him know later, I def would like a solo repeat with Bruto..

Does anyone know if Lagoa currently has free suite nights? How much are the suites there

I’m back in Sao Paulo and already having a blast. I was going to go to Lagoa today, but there were lots of GP’s on grindr who will travel to you, which is so convenient. I found a nice plush apartment on airbnb, and I’m finding it is a better experience hooking up in the comfort of my room - it also seems like the guys are in less of a rush than in the sauna. The building allows visitors, and the doorman makes a copy of each visitors i.d. Anyway, early afternoon I had “Paulo” come over. He asked for 150 for an hour with goza. He has a gorgeous face and was great in bed, totally vers which is always a plus, as I love to 69 and flip fuck. He came while riding me - I love when the guy stays hard while you are fucking him, and it’s an extra bonus if they cum while doing so. I thought I was done for the day, but then started talking to a guy from Bahia named Bruto. He also asked for 150 for full programa with goza. So around 10pm I told him to come over - wow, what a cock he has. He was activo only, and amazing in bed. He told me he had yet to cum today, and seemed super horny. We fucked probably at least 30 mins and he wanted to keep going, but I already came. He shot a massive load all over my chest...no wonder he has 3 kids and is only 25. Tomorrow I will probably check out Lagoa, and definitely I’ll be hitting up Chile Pepper hotel at some point this weekend.. I’m posting pics because they were advertising on grindr and probably have other online escort ads

I know, I wasn’t trying to imply it is some kind of love affair. Just saying that it’s nice when you find good and reliable guys who are nice and deliver what they promise...and as I’m sure you know, some garotos deliver MUCH more than others

One of the guys I’ve been with a few times from Point 202 sent me a good morning text on whatsapp...and followed up with a full face photo of him in bed with a morning boner. Some of the boys really are keepers...the problem is just weeding out the diamonds from the coal..

I’m going to Point tonight just to see Miguel perform again...maybe I will try to get his whatsapp lol.

He said his name was “Leonardo,” claimed to be visiting from Salvador, said he had a brother living in miami. This description will probably apply to many of the garotos but he was tall, about 6”1, olive skin, lean muscular build with several tattoos (one large one across his stomach) and was wearing a red hat. It was the first and hopefully last time I will see him at the sauna. This marks the first time anyone has ever put drinks on my tab without my knowledge (still not sure how he did it since he never had my locker key). The whole thing came off very pre-meditated. It was so far out of the ordinary from any normal programa. I remember someone else on this board described this exact same scenario happening to them (garoto cums immediately before sex, then tries to say well you said you wanted gozar, so I did what you wanted...then playing the I’m confused and language barrier card)

To finish this unpleasant story: upon checkout there were 100 reals worth of drink and food charges added to my bill by the scammer garoto and also an unexpected 40 real late room charge. Fortunately I had anticipated something like this could happen, and had already spoken to the manager when the garoto stomped off with my cabin key instead of giving it to me to hand in (the garoto no doubt turned it in late on purpose to trigger the room charge) When the charges came up I asked for the manager again and he immediately took them off the bill... It is worth noting I had never before seen this garoto at 117 and he was visiting from Salvador. I doubt one of the local garotos would have been so bold.

After a nice stretch of non-problematic garotos, the non-performance issue reared its ugly head again tonight at 117 (this continues to only happen at 117, I’ve yet to encounter this at 202.) Basically what happened is I arranged 120 with him being activo, gozar and kissing. We went to the cabin, and right off the bat he refused to kiss and after very brief oral (3-4 minutes) he came. Then he put his towel on and wanted payment. This was my first time dealing with this particular scam, and I have read about it before on this board (he knew exacty what he was doing but pretended to be confused why I was upset) I basically gave him a 50 real note and told him to fuck off. He threatened that he “would cause a problem for me” (wow, suddenly he speaks english!) I just left. I went and talked to a garoto I’m friends with and told him what happened. He said that garoto does that all the time and then laughs about it. So just a warning to everyone to be aware of this scam. Luckily it was a free suite night, so I got one of my regulars and carried on with the night..

Interesting...what do you ask them exactly...wanna do a programa?

Spotted this beach hottie today...Rio has attractive guys everywhere, but I’ve never dared to approach a guy for a programa outside the sauna..

I’m thinking of going to a girl sauna this week and seeing what is so magical about a “good pussy” Obviously for garotos barebacking pussy feels better than anal sex with condoms (and we all know straight men never wear condoms with their women)

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Haha, I have yet to take multiple garotos to a cabin...handling one at a time can be complicated enough!