SolaceSoul

You really should have first done a search on this forum. There was just recently a conversation about Chili Pepper and it was mostly described the way you just did (for better or for worse). So, if that wasn’t your speed, then you wouldn’t have had to waste your time. As for non-garoto saunas, I know there are a few in Sampa, like Wild Thermas. However, as non-payboy saunas aren’t really my thing, I have not been to any in the many trips I have made to São Paulo. One or two of my travel buddies did go to Wild Thermas and they both said they enjoyed it. Did you at least check the Vamosgay site first? It lists saunas and sex parlors in Samoa, and their site tends to stay up-to-date. I believe this list was last updated in April 2017: http://vamosgay.com/latin-america/brazil/sao-paulo/gay-saunas-cinemas-and-sex-clubs-of-sao-paulo-brazil/

^^^ Not familiar with “Davison”. Does he have an ad somewhere? I will be in Madrid shortly. is this more appropriate for the European forum? Is he South American as well?

He’s originally from Rio but he now lives in Porto, Portugal with his Brasiliero boyfriend l, who also turns tricks. I am almost positive that he is currently in Portugal, and they were only back in Brazil for Carnaval festivities. They’ve moved around all over Europe since the move. They both run ads, sometimes together, sometimes separately. They used to run s joint as in Rio until they moved to Portugal a few years ago. BF is muscular like he, a bit shorter, some tats, and hairier. Some may prefer the BF. They are both hot but if I had to choose, I prefer George’s look. According to very good inside intel European sources (with impeccable credibility), they both have gained a bad rep for stealing from clients, and bother risky behavior and practices — so, buyer beware.

Those in this category will simply be used for tertiary sources of mad money when The Local Sugar Daddy (o papaizinho local) is unavailable or says “não” to that new pricey electronic toy or designer sneakers. That’s what Western Union, and more lately, PayPal, Cash App, Venmo, Xoom, Google Pay, Apple Pay and Facebook Messenger Pay are for!

This was still going on a little in Lagoa as of 2015 with one particular aspiring, perhaps even working, supermodel and a few well-heeled Paulistinho greybeards. And in 117 in Rio, there were 1-2 as late as 2015 that were spotted clothing-only, “exclusively” speaking with a supposedly higher-end client. However, by mid-2016, those two garotos were in towel and available to other clients (although their prices were on the higher end of the spectrum). Disclaimer, for those of you dizzy, ditzy gringos who are thinking they could pull this off, too: the clients that these “exclusive” GPs met also did not disrobe — however, they did not meet any other garotos during their visit. It was clear that these were pre-arranged meetings. You are probably NOT going to meet and hookup with these guys just by keeping your slacks and button-down shirt on at the sauna.

Not to mention, he is traveling alone from Australia! The airport bus is a good option in the morning if you have an extra 90 minutes to spare to get to Zona Sul.

Yeah, some of them actually do consider it some kind of a strange social class / pecking order thing — that only going with clients in suites indicated that you are a high-class or an expensive ho. It’s more about the garoto not wanting to be seen by others going into a lesser room than anything else. I’ve encountered several who refuse to do business in cabins but rooms are fine, although they would prefer a suite. However, I’ve never met one that insisted on a suite. Normally, they would “settle” for a regular room. Regarding those strippers, great choices.

I’d hope that your sauna presence is far more tolerable than your pretentious, overcompensating one here. After all, it would be really difficult for you to talk so much with a big, hard uncut dick down your throat.

Regarding hookups at competitions, good luck but the chances of something like that happening are slim to none. And Slim is about to leave the building. Unless you are going with someone who knows a lot of competitors who are already known to do “that” kind of work and that person is introducing you to them, and you can communicate well in the language, AND they are not already preoccupied from the rigors of the competition, then maybe Slim will stick around. Stick to the saunas and the other conventional, much safer and surer ways for gringos looking to pay meet guys willing to sell. As for a competition schedule, there’s an Olympia qualifier in São Paulo in August. https://www.musclecontestinternational.com/2018-MUSCLE-CONTEST-BRAZIL-EVENT.php The IFBB Mr. Rio 2018 is the weekend of May 11.

... and surprisingly, gentlemen, he’s still single.

Irony, the lost art form!

Sorry, I just can’t do it. Maybe I’ve been too spoiled by all the choices of fine-looking men — but I don’t want someone touching and rubbing all over my body if I’m not physically into them. This is why I would’ve made a TERRIBLE garoto, gogó boy or escort!

I would allow him to massage me. Maybe I have been spoiled or maybe I am just too quirky — but I cannot receive massages (whether real, certified massages or the faux massage that comes from escorts / sex workers / saunas — by someone that I don’t find attractive. I don’t care how magic their hands might be..

I am not a fan of passive-aggressiveness at all, and have no respect for those who require those kinds of tactics. Just be direct, and direct your complaint or anger towards whom the offender is.

In the original screenplay of “Pretty Woman”, Vivian had a heroin addiction, and in the end, ran off with the Gere character’s money and car to get a fix. it was much more like “Leaving Las Vegas”.

I understand your point. I think that there is only poster here who consistently does what you describe above in the way that you describe it: Badboy. Perhaps you should address him directly, instead of making it a general consistent observation that is made by a clique of mean girls / mean boys?

I don’t think you’re referribg to Olympus. Sauna Olympus is not in the high-rent, touristy Barra section of Salvador. Olympus is also a rentboy sauna. I bet that you are confusing it with Sauna Rios, which is in a neighborhood called Barris, and it has no rentboys — just local guys and the crowd tends to skew younger. The facility is nice. It’s about a 10 minute drive from Planetario so you could do both. I am told that Saturday and Sunday afternoons are good. ... or possibly you’re referring to the non-rentboy sauna Paradiso in Barra? The facilities are nice, a bit more touristy as it is near the Barra beaches. I prefer garoto saunas, so I have no dog in the fight of which one of those two is better.

This must be one of those “your mileage may vary” situations. I normally encounter good to great “service with a smile” service providers who seem to go the extra yard to keep the businessy personal relationship (or the personally business relationship) going. It’s about half and half for me — and I‘d say in the field of sexual chemistry, commerce or not, that those numbers are pretty damn good odds. But then again, I’m more of a “go with the flow” kind of guy whose policy regarding interpersonal interactions in general is “expectations create disappointments”.

Sauna Olympus is very small, run-down and very hit-or-miss. I have been there maybe 5 times over a period of 10 years, and only had one decent programa (and that was a threesome the first or second time I went — downhill from there). At the most, I have seen 4 GPs working at a time. The owner / manager claimed that I was there at slow times (I wasn’t) and that there was always a better night (there never was) — I never stayed more than an hour and always on my way to another sauna. i would describe it as a “neighborhood sauna”, with one or two neighborhood working boys thrown in. The neighborhood (Dois de Julio) is a non-touristy very local hood that is close to downtown and Pelhourinho — só for the dizzy, ditzy gringos here who aren’t exactly the best with hints and need to have things spelled out for them — it’s best to Uber after dark unless you know your way around or know the public bus system. Taxis don’t normally visit that street,, so you’d have to walk to the main avenue to try to flag one (hit or miss), so Uber is best. You probably won’t find any helpful little English-speaking guardian angel saviors to get you out of a bind, either. Nutshell: if you are still curious or want to break up the sauna monotony, visit Olympus early before going to Planetario, which is only about an 8 minute Uber ride away. If you still think you need assistance, I know of a multilingual Bahian gay tour guide who will also be more than happy to take your money and take you on a “sauna tour” — complete with showing you the ropes, and negotiating for you if you feel you need that as well. Apparently, that’s a thing. Not judging, I swear. If someone else has a better update on this place, feel free to add.

I thought my brief commentary made that clear. I will now boldface it to make it even more obvious. ”The location in relation to some other saunas is: a 25 minute drive north of the worthy Sauna Fox in Pituba, and only 7 minutes north of the old (now permanently closed!) Sauna Persona 12 in Boca Do Rio. It’s about a 30 minute drive across town to the most popular garoto sauna in Salvador, Planetario 11, in Tororó, and about 37 minutes across town from Sauna Olympus (if you dare!), in Dois De Julho.” As mentioned, regarding the new sauna Club 13: “I have not been yet, but I was told by a very reliable local source that this new sauna has working boys.”

I mentioned all of the current Salvador saunas with garotos in the last paragraph of my post with brief commentary and locations. Is there anything else that you need to know?

There’s a new sauna that recently opened up in Salvador da Bahia, in the Itapuã section way northeast in the city (on the way from Barra to the SSA airport, a 20 minute-drive from the airport). I have not been yet, but I was told by a very reliable local source that this new sauna has working boys. The Instagram page also shows that, interestingly, it offers live music as well as the usual Brazilian drag show host. The IG page is here: https://www.instagram.com/thermasclub13/ The address is: R. Calazans Neto, n°13 - Itapuã, Salvador - BA, 41610-760, Brazil. It’s in the former Blue Space Club, if that means anything to anyone here. The location in relation to some other saunas is: a 25 minute drive north of the worthy Sauna Fox in Pituba, and only 7 minutes north of the old (noe permanently closed!) Sauna Persona 12 in Boca Do Rio. It’s about a 30 minute drive across town to the most popular garoto sauna in Salvador, Planetario 11, in Tororó, and about 37 minutes across town from Sauna Olympus (if you dare!), in Dois De Julho. Feel free to report on this new Bahian sauna here.

How about, “because some of us are trying to keep your dumb self-absorbed gringo asses from being robbed, beaten or killed”?

Answer: if posters would stop asking about highly improbable scenarios that are far more suited for non-payboy, mutual physical attraction meetings and hookups, then there wouldn’t be any need for respondents to remind those posters of The Laws Of Attraction.

Hopefully, you know by now that the “how attractive are you?” question will not always result in the intended honesty and self-reflection. Many people particularly those from more privileged backgrounds or cultures, attribute qualities to themselves out of thin air (sometimes even out of their ass), and qualify themselves as “attractive”, “fit”, “hot”, “witty”, “intelligent”, “cultured”, “engaging” before taking a survey of others. But even without the looks factor, suggesting this aggressive pickup route to the uninitiated is an invitation to a beatdown or a murder. Helpful Heloise Hint: if you aren’t capable of pulling this suggested stunt off where you live, then don’t try it in Brazil or anywhere else.