SolaceSoul

You’re always so busy blathering to marvel at yourself writing needlessly academic dissertations that you overlooked the previous post in a thread that said: “you pay Manny (or the finder) his fee when he brings you the guy to your apartment or hotel, before you go back to your room with the guy.” It’s really not that hard for a reasonable person to understand. You pay the finder once. You’re the one that makes your own life difficult. Your eleven-paragraph tirade here — amongst many other posts — indicates you may have some kind of emotional problem that needs addressing offline. Please seek help before you place yourself or others in a dangerous situation.

How Trumpian.

1) My experience has been that Manny gravitated towards more muscular guys, while Freddy knows more of the twinks. The buggarones that hand around Paco’s and the Condé tend to be all ages, and I think that’s Francisco’s market (Condé hustlers). If you prefer younger but legal, it’s your responsibility as a customer to specifically ask for that up front. 2) I can’t soesk to anyone’s true motivation, but I will say (1) anyone who hooks up or even has sex talk with ANYONE in the DR before verifying the age on their cedula (government issued ID) is begging for legal trouble, and (2) by law, all adult Dominican citizens must have and carry the cedula on their person. (3) People go to brothels because the options are plenty and the environment is safe and secure. Plus for some, nothing beats good dick more than new good dick. (4) Sharing ANYONE’s contact information without their explicit, advance permission — ESPECIALLY if done on the internet! — is absolutely foul and a violation of privacy. Don’t assume that all of these guys want or appreciate the advertisement / infringement on their privacy. (5) Don’t expect much English to be spoken from most buggarones. Your guides will almost always speak English.

You’re overthinking it, as usual. You’re only paying for the initial introduction. Once you have the initial meeting, and you like the guy, after you pay the finders fee, you don’t have to pay the finders fee to see the guy again. Just pay the guy directly next time.

Ah, you’re starting to learn how this board (and the internet) works. There are a number of posters here who claim to be much younger than they are in real life. And much hotter. And much richer. And sometimes much more traveled. And even much bi-er. Protip: if you’re going to insist on making up a false (or exaggerated) description of yourself, you might want to make sure you can’t ever be identified at any of the places you post about. The walls have eyes. Even in foreign lands.

Not interested in your refereeing and hall monitoring of my posts. Go troll elsewhere, old man.

I’d expect a much snappier, wittier comeback from such a cunty cuck. It’s pretty clear that your girlfriend wears the pants in your relationship. Maybe you should just let her do all the talking / writing instead.

So, we’re back to paying for the guys to fuck your girlfriend if you are in the picture — which was exactly everyone’s point (or at least mine and @badboy‘s) that you vociferously protested). You’ve been posting on this site since November 2017 about Rio male escorts and saunas, and in some of those posts, you’ve claimed that you have already been to Rio and like going there. So, now, all of a sudden, there is confusion about what happens at Rio beaches and with sauna boys, sex workers and escorts? If you like going to Rio so much, and you’re such an experienced cuckolder who knows how men will respond to your request, then just go and take this newfound girlfriend of yours. Quit the obvious trolling.

Yes, but would they do it FOR FREE?

I suggest you read everything in the links I posted. @sanddunes was kind enough to share a portion of it. My contacts in Santo Domingo, who I have known and trusted for years, all emphasize that the prison is a very risky, dangerous experience, particularly for non-citizen tourists. The one person that I know who HAS done this (the prison sex experience) was only protected because he personally knew one of the top drug lords in the prison, who worked with the guards and administrators. The rooms were private, as they would be in a conjugal visit. Here are the very real risks of this prison sex trip (as described to me by my contacts): getting blackmailed for more money by inmates or guards, getting busted and thrown in prison and possibly being blackmailed or extorted for release, getting busted for real or imaginary crimes and then having to call US Embassy for an assist, getting assaulted and no one there to help you, being locked in the prison when a prison riot breaks out. These evident risks are bolstered by the fact that none of my most trusted guides or contacts would agree to getting involved in the orchestration of the prison sex trip — one would only agree to driving there and back, but nothing else ;even though they all know Francisco personally). My guess (this is an educated guess based on my past and present conversations with contacts, not from personal experience) is that @Kevie770‘s prison experience went smoothly because it was a fairly sizable number of them going at the same time, as opposed to one or two — AND Also because Francisco somehow has a way of running interference there. I’ll let Kevie speak for himself, though, as I don’t know him. Francisco works in and around Paco’s. If no one here can give you a contact, you can find him there on most days. I don’t believe that the name of the old man that runs the whorehouse is also Francisco or anything similar, but I’m not sure. He is actually a very good honorable person, and runs a tight ship. The house is in the small town of San Cristobal 45 minutes away and it’s called Casa del Campo. Safety or other risks would NOT be an issue there, and you can easily get a driver to take you there, wait for you and take you back. I guess which activity you want to do all depends on how much risk you’re willing to take. As we know from other threads on this board, some here are less risk-averse than others.

If this is the old, huge, overcrowded national prison in nearby La Victoria, which is about an hour drive outside of Colonial Zone in Santo Domingo and the closest older prison to the city, it has about 9,000 inmates in a place built for 900, and houses everything from mass murderers to drug lords to rapists to petty thieves. I doubt it’s one of the newer modeled prisons (there’s one about 30 minutes west of the city), because they tend to be more monitored and structured, like prisons in the U.S. If you’d like to read more opinions on what prisons in the DR are like, there’s some good reading: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-prisons-like-in-Dominican-Republic http://dr1.com/articles/jail.shtml

It’s not just called a prison. It’s an actual, active prison, run by the Dominican government, where they send the worst of the worst.

It’s VERY rainy, floody and stormy in Rio right now. Friends are sending me videos.

It is extremely foolish to walk around Santo Domingo wearing a $4,000 watch. It’s even more foolish wearing one and thinking you “do not look like a tourist”.

So, it looks like the Department of State under the current administration has decided to ramp up its travel warnings to US citizens traveling to Latin and South American countries. Here’s what just came into my mailbox from the STEP program for Dominican Republic. “Exercise increased caution in the Dominican Republic due to crime. Violent crime, such as robbery, murder, and sexual assault, is common. The wide availability of weapons, the use and trade of illicit drugs, and a weak criminal justice system contribute to the high level of criminality. Read the Safety and Security section on the country information page. If you decide to travel to the Dominican Republic: Be aware of your surroundings. Do not physically resist any robbery attempt. Do not display signs of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry. Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency. Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter. Review the Crime and Safety Report for the Dominican Republic. U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler's Checklist. Last Update: Reissued after regular review with no changes.”

The area near Sauna Thermas is a great lively gay-friendly neighborhood. I stayed within a 5 minute walk from the sauna, and there were gay bars and gay-friendly hotels in the area. The Rocafort subway station is also only a mere block away.

Based on what I have read, it seems that you both live in Atlanta. Which only proves that two very different kinds of people can live in the very same city, know two very different kinds of people, and have two very different kinds of experiences.

You’re so sure of yourself. So, why come in here seeking advice on whether it’ll work for you in Rio? You obviously don’t need our help. You’re the one who asked if really attractive men in Brazil would be down for your cuck fantasies and fuck your girlfriend while you watch, so apparently you didn’t know. NOW, all of a sudden, you’re so confident? Florida or anywhere else in the USA are by no means similar to Rio or anywhere in Brazil. And unless you found a place similar to working boy saunas in The Dominican Republic that no one else here is familiar with for recruiting for your cuck fantasy games, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Tell you what, smartass. Do the complete opposite of everything I just advised. You’re right. Those sex workers who make their money from sex will be happy to fuck your girlfriend with you, a guy, watching or playing around with them for free.

I’m going to try to keep my responses to you in the same polite and genteel fashion that you’ve been kind enough to keep here. I wouldn’t advise you trying your beach fantasy thing without a guide (meaning, someone you know who can introduce you to like-minded guys on the beach). Otherwise, you’re asking for trouble for you and your GF. When I say trouble, I mean getting setup or violence. If your GF is truly that hot (in comparison to what’s in Rio beaches, that’s a tall order), then propositions may happen naturally. However, although sex can be easy to find in Rio, as a white male foreigner tourist on his first trip, be prepared to pay — whether it’s an agreed-upon amount up front or a demanded amount afterwards. I am not saying that this is bound to occur, but being prepared in the event it does happen will uncomplicate your life a dozen-fold. I cannot count how many times I’ve talked to privileged tourists who think that brasileiro/as are going to be wowed by their sheer looks / personality / whatever, and then they become totally outraged, shocked or dismayed when they’re asked to pay for it somehow. Don’t be that guy. Secondly, it would be a huge mistake for you to presume that a garoto — a sex worker — will fuck your GF for free, especially while you watch. These guys have their own wives and girlfriends and side pieces. The likelihood of them being so impressed with your GF that they will waive a fee for you is foolish — especially since you want a regular arrangement. Again, expect to pay (for two), and maybe be pleasantly surprised if you don’t have to, or get offered a discount. But I highly doubt it. Sauna workers are most likely going to practice safe sex more than any rando you meet on the beach, the street or an app. Re: the beach guy (or any guy) that I know — sorry, but I just don’t go there. I don’t know you at all, this could go south quickly for everyone involved (including me), and my years of internet experience and travel experience have taught me well to avoid fulfilling those kinds of requests. There ARE others here, however, who don’t seem to adhere to my principles and just hand out contact information and photos of guys they have met like candy to kids during Halloween. Maybe one of them will give you an assist in that area? But I do wish you well and hope that you and your GF have a fun-filled, safe time.

Your situation is definitely do-able, as long as you conduct your business intelligently and discreetly. Almost every working garoto and casually non-working one that I know prefers to have sex with women (or at least publicly does). Many advertising working garotos de programa indicate that they are open to both men and women, knowing damn well that women rarely if ever peruse those gay escort ads. If you aren’t a Portuguese speaker, when you see ads, look for “homens e mulheres” — which means men and women. Also, the word for couples is “casais” (“travesti” means trans, for what it’s worth). Look at many garoto de programa, or “boy” ads and you’ll see one or more of these phrases. You can easily try a garoto out from an ad or an app like Grindr or Planet Romeo / Hunqz. Re: saunas, of course, your girlfriend cannot enter (and for this, I shall be eternally grateful). But most of the working guys in there will probably be interested in your arrangement, granted the pay is right (remember that they are there to make money, and often what the client looks like is of little concern). Offsite programas will most likely cost you more, as well as the costs of two clients in one who are present during the session (whether male/female or male/male), and the transportation costs to and from your hotel/apartment. Your GF being attractive to them might sweeten the deal a little. But, the sauna would be a good place for you to sample the goods yourself first, and show him photos of your GF, as well as get a feel if you are comfortable with him and introducing him to your girl. Re: the beach, this may be the riskiest move with the least opportunity for reward. Unless you already know the guy is a working guy, and know someone who knows his reputation, I would avoid this one without someone to guide you along on your first trip. I actually know several beach guys who somewhat clandestinely work the beaches for either men or women, but that takes a great deal of time and effort. FYI: One of my beach favorites (who definitely fits your desired description) met two of my visiting very hot lipstick lesbian friends with me on the beach, and literally spent the entire next week trying to fuck them (they weren’t about that life, however). I never asked but I got the strong feeling that he is the type that would be very uncomfortable with a woman knowing he also does guys. This is NOT a situation you’d want to get into in an unfamiliar environment. Good luck and exercise good judgment and caution.

Yes, you are.

I believe, based on what I have read here, that the prolific poster @Tomcal is just as tall as, if not taller than you. He’s also a very frequent traveler to Brazil. He was recently a victim of a group mugging. By gunpoint. In tony, upscale Ipanema in Rio. The others in that group that were also mugged were younger Brazilian men.

FYI, several countries have recently placed travel warnings to its citizens regarding the USA. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/travel/vacationing-in-the-united-states-be-warned-some-countries-say.amp.html

There should be absolutely NO need for anyone here to be wandering around Pina Beach in Recife after dark. Praia do Pina is a regular family-styled beach but on its northern end, it ends in a large favela called Brasilia Teimosa. Even in broad daylight, locals vehemently advise against walking further than 100 m along this beach in a northerly direction. Apart from that, there is a well-developed beach section on the south side of the beach. The only thing you’ll need to do is drive in an Uber THROUGH this area near Pina Beach and Brasilia Teimosa from Boa Viagem in order to go over the bridge to get to two of the northern saunas (Progresso and Boa Vista — the other, Blue Thermas is in the center of the Boa Viagem neighborhood and song require that trek). The best area to stay in Recife is the center of Boa Viagem (NOT the northern end of the strip closer to Pina Beach, as mentioned in the above warning), near the Boa Viagem beach and park. As a strict safety rule, avoid all beaches after sundown anywhere in Brazil.

I was very recently living and working in Rio and São Paulo for 3 months last year. I have been going to 5 major cities in Brazil semi-regularly for the past decade. During my last stay, every person that I knew well in Brazil — locals, expats, clients, employees, store owners, waitresses, garotos. sauna employees, gogo boys, escorts — almost to a person warned me about exercising extreme caution due to recent marked increased crime and violence. Many of these people are those whose opinions I value and trust there, and some of them (especially the garotos) are not exactly delicate flowers who are sheltered in the tony upscale neighborhoods of Leblon or Ipanema. So, caution should not exactly be thrown to the wind. The STEP notifications seems to be culled from recent events and reports. Corcovado trails, Recife public buses. ATM machines, favela areas and favela-like comunidades, and border areas are all singled out in the notice.