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How about a nice walk in Rio
SolaceSoul replied to mvan1's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
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How about a nice walk in Rio
SolaceSoul replied to mvan1's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
Don’t feel it’s just gringos (although gringos are certainly a bigger target). A brown-skinned muscled garoto I know Well was beaten, mugged and robbed leaving 117 a few months ago. His beaten face looked like Rocky at the end of the fight in the first movie in the photo he sent me. -
Cost of longer stay with boy in Brasil
SolaceSoul replied to pauleiro's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
There are exceptions (there are always outliers), but generally, these prices quoted above for days, overnights and weekends would be quite higher for the garotos that are more built/muscular, are competitive athletes, bodybuilders or fitness models, and consider themselves or are considered A-listers. As someone mentioned above, this also applies to those who advertise (their rates for hourly visits are also higher). -
I think I understand what you are trying to say here, but the wording of it is in a double negative — so it comes across as “75% of adult male nationals consider it appropriate to chat online with children and adolescents they do not know”. Are you sure this is what you meant? Because I would think it’s the very opposite.
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Oh, I’m quite sure you’d prefer for me to go somewhere else. Since you are someone who thought it was perfectly legal for travelers abroad to have sex with 14-year-old boys in Brazil, it certainly would benefit you not to be challenged on the inappropriateness of anything that suggests having sex with minors.
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This inquiry is worded in a way that takes into consideration the need to massage R.’s Trumpian-sized ego. So, good call!
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Currently, there are 3 gay saunas in Rio with “garotos de programa” (rent men): Club 117, Point 202, and the new Lion’s. There are a few other gay sauna without garotos de programa, if that’s what you’re interested in. They are most similar to, but not exactly like, American bathhouses. The most popular one is Rio G Sauna, in a very safe neighborhood, Ipanema. Rio G gets more of a “gay nightclub crowd”, with the similar gay nightclub attitude and pretense. The patrons at the other non-payboy gay saunas will probably be less... physically discriminating... when it comes to selecting their play partners. I seriously doubt there are 19 gay saunas in Rio. Your map may be including saunas for straight men (with female workers — garotas de programa), or just spas. Any gay-themed Rio website will have a list of saunas on it — although they might not be updated.
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Rua Cándido Mendes, 117, in Gloria. The photo of the building with the name on it shows up when you put the address in Google Maps, but not when you put in the name. The name Club 117 used to appear in a Google Maps search, but now that seems to have changed. Star it on your favorite places in Google Maps, and add a label.
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Again, you’re arguing about a world as it “should be”. I believe that @Riobard and I are, using separate arguments, discussing a world not as it “should” be, but as it is In a perfect world, 10- to 12-year-old black boys in America *shouldn’t* be arrested for throwing a ball too hard in a dodgeball game, or shot dead by police within 1.2 seconds for playing with Nerf guns in a public park. But here we are.
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As loquacious as your comment may be, to be very clear, the OP also stated succinctly and clearly in his original comment: “I had safe sex with many boys on a two day trip i recently made to Colombia”. This wasn’t about the colloquial use of the term “had”, but the literal meaning of “sex with boys”. It’s hard to defend that from an overzealous investigator / prosecutor post-script. “But every other reader knew what I meant!” is not a very good defense. Clearer language is much more preferable.
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What you fail to understand — whether willingly or not — is that it’s not about what you mean or what other readers understand you to mean, but how it can be interpreted by outside forces and ultimately used to punish not only the individual poster, but this entire website and message board. Especially in an era where the future of sites like this one are precarious, words need to be chosen much more wisely.
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The new law was already challenged in court. The judge threes out the challenge on the grounds that the plaintiffs did not have proper standing to sue — citing no “direct harm” by the law. These plaintiffs are supposedly appealing that ruling, but a better group of plaintiffs should re-file. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/09/fosta-case-update-court-dismisses-lawsuit-without-ruling-whether-statute https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/02/fosta-already-leading-censorship-we-are-seeking-reinstatement-our-lawsuit
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It seems that (per usual) non-Americans understand what’s going on in the USA more than most Americans. i would add to your post that “the idea of FOSTA-SESTA is to curtail porn as well as escorting online as much as possible because the thinking is the more porn, the more prostitution and the more sex trafficking.” The anti-porn, anti-sex work activists have successfully convinced U.S. politicians from both parties (the law passed overwhelmingly bipartisan!) and the influential parts of American society than porn and sex work are equivalent to human trafficking. Thinking people understand that this is sex panic, hyperbole and overreach, but we currently don’t live during a thinking, science-based, research-based body politic. We are living during a reactionary one. Studies have shown that legalized and regulated prostitution reduces harm to sex workers and clients, and lessens sex trafficking because it brings potential victims out of the shadows. Yet, here we are, anyway. As for why the law has not yet been used — it HAS been used already. It has been used to force websites and message boards to shut down. It has been used to seize banking assets of sex workers and webmasters / bloggers accused of “facilitating prostitution”.
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It’s 57 total dead, and 16 of those dead were decapitated. Perhaps this will clear it up for you. “At least 57 prisoners were killed by other inmates during clashes between organized crime groups in the Altamira prison in northern Brazil Monday with 16 of the victims being decapitated, according to prison officials.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1035991
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Oh, Jeez. Most of those websites / boards listed above also focused on paid encounters with legal age consenting providers. And a few of those cases were BEFORE FOSTA-SESTA — which is a much more strenuous federal law! NOW, all it requires is a finding that the website or message board “facilitates prostitution” in order to fall under the heading of sex trafficking! “Facilitates” is a very broad definition. The word means “to make easier or less difficult; help forward (an action, a process, etc.); to assist the progress of (a person).” This says nothing about the legal age requirement; however, it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) take a genius to surmise that suspicions of child sex facilitation would make law enforcement harassment or the threat of investigation far WORSE. Therefore, when referring to sex or the sex trade, why even use colloquialism like “boy” that could easily be interpreted literally?
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“[E]ven though crimes such as murder and sex trafficking have undoubtedly been planned in Facebook groups, posts, or messages, Facebook could not be held criminally liable for the murders or sex trafficking. Now all that has changed: Any website that is used to facilitate prostitution can be prosecuted for sex trafficking.” https://thecrimereport.org/2018/06/04/the-deadly-consequences-of-the-anti-sex-trafficking-law/
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I really don’t have the time or the energy to play your little game. Operation Delego targeted and prosecute the 72 charged defendants and more than 500 additional individuals around the world for their participation in Dreamboard – a private, members-only, online bulletin board that was found, according to prosecutors, promoting pedophilia and encouraging the sexual abuse of very young children, in an environment designed to avoid law enforcement detection. The sweep called “Operation Innocence Lost” used Congressionally-approved FBI funds to combat child human trafficking to, among other things, cast as wide a net as possible scourge websites and message boards for users that posted about sex with minors. The Review Board — a message board designed like this one where men reviewed and posted details about sex workers and became an online community of buyers — resulted in the investigation, arrests and prosecution of dozens of mostly professional, upper middle class men in the Pacific Northwest. Police got search warrants to go after their email accounts and the ISP addresses that linked their pseudonyms to their real names. P411, a similar members-only site, was infiltrated by law enforcement and members cooperated with authorities to turn in other members suspected of sex trafficking and facilitating prostitution. There are others, but as I mentioned, I’m not here to play silly games with you. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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It doesn’t require anyone to track down the ISP of every individual user here — only the ones who have posted certain remarks that it believes are violative of federal laws. It isn’t very different from how federal investigators can ultimately bring charges against posters who make terrorist threats on anonymous message boards or admit to hacking info banking systems on 4chan.
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Some legal options already exercised in similar cases: Shutting down websites. Demand for federally required documentary evidence of legal age requirements of subjects in pornographic images under USC 2257. Securing warrants for the IP addresses of individual offending posters. Closing down back accounts of suspected offenders. Arrest warrants. Extradition.