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When you enter I think there was a bar and you don't have to undress completely there but I am sure in sauna you need to be undress, maybe not fully but at least with a towel or short. In any case, gran via is not a fun place at all, not comparable to thermas. When I went there last year there was only one old and bald escort. This was Sunday early evening when thermas or other places are usually busy. I also know from many escorts who visit thermas from Madrid that they rarely go to this sauna. I hope I am wrong but this place is dead for us 😂

I had the same impression about Egyptian guys. There are certainly some really hot guys just like any other countries but the frequency of spotting them is quite low in Egypt compared to Brazil and Colombia. I have seen some amazing looking Lebanese guys outside of Lebanon so I wanna visit some day but I worry that they are pricey just like how they do business elsewhere 😂 I had a recent trip to Morocco and I got really impressed by their look and body. I did have some nice meetings but I find Moroccans a lot harder to deal with, compared to Egyptians, who are kinda easy come. I wanna go there a bit more often because of cheap Ryan air flights to Marrakech. I have never done this but if you want to explore together I am open minded. I always find lone trips to hire to be a little more desired after the job done for the day 😂 but I am also discreet and like to keep things low so I never explored the option to go with someone else....anyway think about it and if you are interested you can dm me. Regarding latin America I agree that the ticket price is the deal killer. For example I can go to Barcelona on vueling and spend the weekend there and have fun at thermas for a fraction of a trip to latin America, with many times. But the experience in LA is a lot more memorable than anywhere else. On the bright side, the hotels are a lot cheaper in LA, comparable to north Africa except the busy times. I usually find a way to fly there cheap, like finding error fares in business class so I managed to visit relatively comfortably. Also guys in LA are not fem and usually passionate in bed etc so I like them. Even when I hire in Europe I hire mostly Latinos.

Any updates on where to go for massage in Bogota this year? How does it work? Contact via WhatsApp and get pictures and choose? Tips to the boy or all inclusive? Also if someone can tell me very briefly how the strip clubs work, that would be very helpful.

Thanks so chapigay is basically Chapinero close to Parque de los Hippies? around that area any recs for saunas and massage places where I can hire? I know saunas in Colombia are not like the ones in Brazil but I am trying to find some ways to hire easily without involving any online hiring first. I read a few places for strip clubs in other forums but couldn't get recent extensive info about Bogota

Which area is desirable to stay for first time visitor? So hopefully safe to walk at night alone, and close to the actions: I wanna visit saunas and massage parlors where I can hire on spot ... I vaguely read there are a few of those in the city?

Haha funny comparison. Usually I try not to be the stupid tourist who would disturb the local market. Like the Cancun story above

They do that in Egypt and Morocco 😂 you just have to make sure of who you will be messing up with. In this case I would say he is not even a brother, just a random good looking dude who gets his commission

I don't know what the going rate in Thailand is but everything is in relation to its market rate. When I am in Barcelona I never pay over 100e simply because I can always get what I want under 100 but I am sure that is not the case for many cities in Western Europe.

London is really one of the worst value places in the world when it comes to hiring.

I never manage to score fun at the souk. They are tightly lined up so hard to isolate a shop without being seen by other shop owners around. How do you manage to make it happen there? My understanding is that they will close the curtain only when they are not seen by other shop owners?

I hate hassles but it was not a hassle. It was very easy for me, except you cannot bring them to your hotel. Otherwise these guys close the deal relatively quickly. If you want less hassle you might try shoulder season where it is not packed with so many tourists keeping them busy.

Sweatbox was a bit underwhelming during my recent visit. It was Saturday night so I expected it to be packed or people lining up but that was not the case. It was a bit crowded but not like 400 people. There were very few hot guys, though it was very diverse. Also guys don't do actions as much as my recent experience in Lisbon. They were not hostile or anything, actually most guys are friendly in their manner but very limited actions. Also there is a very tiny area that is a maze or dark room but everyone can see who is going in and out and most attractive ones do not go into that area 😂 I am quite interested in checking out the other one but after my experience in sweatbox I am not that thrilled

How good is it for fun? Only hot guys for hot guys or more mixed?

I was not aware of this sauna with hiring opportunity. From Google reviews it seems like guys go there to have fun so I guess the crowd is mixed with guys for fun and guys for money? How many guys for hiring? Also, is it any good for hiring? Relative to thermas in Barcelona?

In terms of hiring, I also tried Grindr and Google map. I didn't mind finding some inexpensive massage with happy endings there so I simply Google gay message on Google map. A few pops up and some are obviously targeting us if you visit their website. Google reviews are better than hunqz reviews because you can check if the reviewers are authentic. I reached out two of the main ones you see in Google. Both of them quoted me an insane amount compared to 100e for sex service that I can easily find. I guess they build their google reputation and charge high for people do not want to spend time on the search. Either way, most of the massages are mediocre in my book but I have been spoiled a lot in Thailand with good massages. So I never took up their offers in Lisbon. Another weird thing is that Grindr doesn't work well for me these days. In most places if I show an obvious language to show my intentions to hire, some fishes take the bait and chat up. I recently do not get that anymore wherever I go...even my normal profile gets a very low traffic and I feel like it has something to do with the Grindr s excessive pursuit for money. Unless you pay you don't get much interactions but I don't like initiating Convo on Grindr so maybe that's why I stopped working for me these days. Do you have some similar experience with Grindr?

Beyond hiding Lisbon was a nice place to visit: very good food for relatively inexpensive prices so I enjoyed my time there. Because I had some hiccups with my online hiring initially I decided to try out some saunas there. I knew these saunas are non the place to hire but who knows and no one on this forum talked about saunas in Lisbon. I googled and sauna trombeta stood out. From Google map reviews many said a lot of hot guys and no private cabin to enjoy one on one actions. Well read them by yourselves, they are a bit crazy but my image was that a lot of hot guys are fvcking in the sauna publicly and some Brazilians are doing some trades in the private cabins. So I decided to go there because even if I don't have any actions there at least I can check if there are some interesting trades are going on and can eventually watch some really hot guys are doing some actions in front of me. I usually do not go to saunas where there is no hiring but this one really attracted me so I went! Well, the dark room is a long maze, very dark so hard to see anything but you can see their shapes and can touch their front and back. As soon as I entered just many hands touched me everywhere and because I didn't have sex for a few days I got hard easily. This was right after the African guy incident so I was even more horny 😂 when I hire I am usually more bottom but in these places I prefer being top and I didn't have any intention to do anal there. I found a nice body, short guy with nice round ass so we made out and he gave me bj until I came in his mouth. Ok I thought that was the end and I went to take shower and explore the rest of the sauna. I went to the private cabins and I do some Brazilians there but it was not full as the google reviews said. It was Sunday evening so it should have been so full according to the nasty reviewers there. I didn't notice anything out of the line so I went back to the dark room just to see those hot guys doing stuff but I found another guy who was into me and blown off again lol second time, and this time I came on the face, though I didn't see anything 😂 Well at thermas I usually cum only twice and it's kinda my limit these days so I decided to end it so I went around again. This time I noticed that the guys in the private cabins areas are giving me the look I get in thermas, they are up for something but I just didn't manage to talk to them about the details. In the bar area I did see some older guys drinking with younger Brazilians so I was not sure if some hiring was going on. I also saw the sauna had massage therapists and one was very sexy in picture so I decided to hire him for 30 min. I was so certain that I will get some extra service, otherwise the price didn't make a lot of sense. Anyway I had to wait ten minutes until the therapist finished his session. Then he came out and he looked as hot as his pictures. When I went to the room, a bit more light and a bit more time, I just noticed he was a chicken legs. I hate them and it just turned me off so badly. Also the massage was mediocre. I was not offered anything extra except he asked if I wanted to continue for one hour as I booked for 30 mins. Of course I just wanted to get out so said no. I went out and took shower and I saw some hot guys going into the dark room so I wanted to see their actions but I ended up with another guy. This time he gave me a very nice bj but I topped him. I was surprised I could go for three times in a short period of time outside of thermas 😂 anyway this sauna was a big surprise for me as it had many hot guys, doing the actions without worrying about the crowd. Many hot Brazilians and I guess it's their chill attitude toward sex that makes this sauna unique. So I didn't find any sauna for hiring or didn't have enough info about trombeta but I had my share of fun there. I think it is mostly because I am tall and slender without any bellies, so dark rooms worked well for me 😂

Let me summarize my recent trip. I had a long weekend trip to Lisbon and I was going to attend an event there with my friends so I did not have a lot of time to explore but I had a good grasp of the market. As usual in Europe, hunqz was the most reliable bet but I haven't hired from hunqz for some time. I know that some of the escorts can delete their reviews so I did not find those reviews very useful and that's why I moved away from hunqz. On the surface you find many guys on hunqz but after digging a little bit I realized that it didn't have many guys of my liking. It's not as extensive as Barcelona. But still some options. I also realized that guys in Lisbon are much slower than the guys in Barcelona where I usually get a very quick reply if I contact them through their ad or hunqz website. Most guys quote 100, some 80 (outcalls extra Uber), I got one 120, 150, 200!!! Weirdly the highest two offers were the ugliest 😂 120 was an Argentinian guy who claimed he lost his reviews so smelled a bit fishy and I didn't try. For me bigger sized guys are a problem so it restricted my search quite a bit. Many Brazilians with xx+ so I had to exclude them. I found an African guy who looked like Caribbean or North African. He was 180 + in height and had a very nice well-defined body, not too mascular, very balanced body huge thighs and legs so he was my type in terms of looks and body. He also had a very nice attitude when we messaged: very efficient communication easy to chat upfront about the rates and pictures. So I decided to hire immediately even though he didn't have any reviews. I went to his place and he looked like his at pictures, although a bit balding. I made sure that kissing was okay and everything, so when I arrived we made out and he started having trouble with erection, and of course, when guys have erection problems things get quite ugly. He started telling me that this was his first time and he decided to do it because his friends said he should do it to get extra money and he thought it was easy and the funniest part was that he said he was so confused at the moment when he made out with me and he is straight 😂 well at least he was honest and still had a nice attitude so I decided to end it and pay him 50e, although technically speaking I always say no pay if erection problem. How do you guys deal with erection problems with escorts? I am usually more of a bottom when I hire so erection is essential for me. Without it I don't see any point of hiring them. For the second one, I wanted to go for a reliable hire so someone with a lot of positive comments, so ended up with a Brazilian guy. He was a bit short but nice muscular body, very chill and relaxed. We started from a massage, which usually is mediocre in my past experience outside of Asia but he was quite good. Then we finished the deeds without any issues, nice kisser and average size, which is perfect for me. If you are interested in this guy, message me in private but he is not for the size queens. I also noticed there are some local sites like classificadosx and vivastreet when I googled. Some of them list their prices on their ad so I contacted a few but nothing came out fruitful. On these websites I saw some Portuguese guys so I was curious. Weirdly their rates were lower but all of them except one did not go through. And I didn't have time to meet with the one I managed to chat theough. It was on my day of departure and his place was far from the airport. One interesting incident is that some Brazilians advertise with the same number and same rate but different profiles. Maybe they are staying together but I didn't quite understand what they are up to. There were two hot guys and one tranny using the same location and numbers. Two guys advertise it as 50e for 1h but as soon as you contact them they will increase their rate to 100e, which is still fine but it didn't sit well with me. Something was sketchy so I googled the number and some hunqz profiles came up and they didn't have any reviews either. So I didn't bother to explore more but they were not the nicest people with communicate with. Be careful about these guys. They are very obvious on the platform. Overall, online hiring was a bit time consuming compared to sauna hires. I always had a very nice impression about Brazilians because they deliver and they are very passionate in sex and have nice looks but in Lisbon I realized that most of my positive impressions came from sauna hires. In Lisbon I ran into some difficult Brazilians when I tried to hire online but I realized that I had the same issue with the Brazilians in London as well. So I kinda paused and said wait, maybe I am so biased because of my sauna experience with them 😆 So this was my hiring but I will follow up with non hiring part.

because nobody replies there, even the ones who already started the thread and visited. At least I always follow up my trips and report back if I do the exploration. I am not a big fan of those guys who create a thread and never follow up after their travel and then show up somewhere else and ask for info but never provide what they find out. This forum works only if we all share our info...

So you quoted the thread where I ended 😂 any recent updates? 1. Local websites beyond hunqz 2. Any saunas with trades after COVID 3. Sensual massage places?

Havent been to Lisbon for a long time and thinking of heading there soon. I know Barcelona thermas might be the only reasonable place in Europe but any chance at Lisbon? Maybe some regular sauna goers might entertain the idea? I know hunqz is a good source but anything local?

Barcelona hotels are very expensive these days. Barcelona is one of a few places on Earth I find using points can be very rewarding. So if you have some points at hotel chains explore that option as well

It is an interesting market for them. Usually the rates for them are higher than Asian ones and they can easily charge what they can charge in most European cities because they are the rare ones in Asia. But the cost of living is really a few times cheaper than European cities and the weather is usually nicer. Plus they can enjoy the white privilege in their daily life so the life quality is better and their profit margin is probably higher as well...

updates from your trip in August?

I know locals have a pretty active market in Beijing but I don't speak any Chinese. What's the hiring situation in Beijing? Any massage or direct hiring places?

Thanks for the interesting story. It is exactly what I felt while I visited Luxor and Aswan. But I never managed to bring people to my hotel. Even at the Ritz. The main issue was that the bigger the hotel is, more luxurious, but some guys are really not dressed for those hotels and very visibly different. Smaller hotels have tight controls at the reception, which was the case for Aswan. Any hints? Also can you provide more details on Alexandria and red sea cities in like hurgada?