Gotti

I mean "settling"

Marriage? "I'm not the setting type" (Salsoul Orchestra) I just wanna go disco every night (and fuck in between)

I did try to get his number, he politely declined, I guess it's not given away at random, only after a close encounter, smart boy, selective also, nothing wrong with that, certainly gets him points, no pun intended.

Another add on to Tomcal's reply: if Mondays are also good at Point, that's the writing on the wall for Meio Mundo (if they are still open), since it was their big night. After years playing an also-run 202 finally arrived! Junior just have to be more selective with garotos, if 2 or 3 do not show up at a certain night, it might become a waste of time to some people (like me). After years being king-of the hill, 117 must be getting worried.

Just to add: Tomcal's suggestions were spot on, fits exactly the Ricardo description, a Rio only monument that should be preserved by decree! Don't bother looking for it anywhere else!

Nope, but I take'em!

After about 8 or 9 months I was back at sauna 202. The night was billed as "the return of Junior". For the best of my knowledge tthe last time I was there he had already recouped ownership of the place, so I don't know what the fuss was all about. The facilities were vastly improved and well mantained by a mostly lesbian staff (!). Another big difference: It was jam packed, the most I ever seen, it was the eve of a major holiday, but still..., the outlook of the boys has dramatically changed, a seasoned Rio sauna goer would think he was at Meio Mundo, a lot of the boys would not get a chance at 202 just a few months ago, maybe Meio Mundo closed after all (not sure about that) and Junior decided to take'em all in for a change. A huge number of trannies we're in attendance last night, at least 10 of them, which means about 8 too many. Something that's not changed is the music volume, blasting loud, Junior doesn't give up the idea that he is also a dance club impresario, the entire arrangement of a night club was in place, including laser lights, strobe lights and the like, totally inappropriate for a sauna, everything commanded by a beyond horrible DJj. Don't get me wrong, I love going out dancing on night-clubs, but a sauna were you can hardly talk with anybody is not the place. In a past post I mentioned that 202 was becoming the place to be on Wednesdays and this is now a reality, In Rio the big nights are the suite-free nights, Junior (finally) sticked with Wednesday, after being all over the place (he even tried -foolishllly- a free Tuesday) and is paying off handsomelly, I don't know about the other nights, but on a Wednesday nobody should look elsewhere. For my taste, the number of garotos increased three fold and the quality decreased in the same proportion, but the place is certainly happening. Only one boy caught my fancy, but could not have him, he was on the way out, unwanting to wait for the suite line (also a first). About 22, white, brunette and very masculine. If I have another shot at 202 this time around, he will be mine. His name is Ricardo..

You're absolutely right about the perv part, but should be noted that the photographer is the star here and he made probably tens of thousands for just a few shots and is the subject of an article today at The New York Times, very negative for moralty reasons.

He is not really hiding, this is is a commission for a very famous photographer, from a legit straight publication, the work is supposed to be erotic but frontal nudity would be a no-no, there is also a female model involved also stopping short of the whole thing.

Some trivia about the garoto in topic: The photos were shot by Terry Richardson, currently making headlines around the world after being fired by American Vogue magazine for being accused of abuse by several female models. The boy in Brazil is known as "Justin Bieber do Vidigal" , Vidigal being the neighborhood where he lives. His real name is Pietro Baltazar, about half dozen photos of this session have been released and the whole thing happened just a few weeks ago and he is currently doing some catwalks and editorials. I think he really looks like Bieber at the front, but the backside he is the clear winner

Very much true. I remember one time posting basically the same info and was widely rebuffed with everyone saying only money matters, glad to finally see someone that agrees with me. Regarding garotos fees X clients there are a lot of factors that go into play.

There is a lot of talk about this place in Rio with a new branch in Sao Paulo. Apparently a mixture of hustle-bar and back-room with labirinths, glory holes, etc, it does serve alcohol and patrons circulate in various stages of undressing and if they choose, fully clothed. Haven't been there yet (I'm out of the country), but is certainly the most talked about affair in the local social media. Not able to figure out yet the situation with GP's, if they are available and the quality. If anyone is in town or on the way please advise!

There is a lot of talk about this place in Rio with a new branch in Sao Paulo. Apparently a mixture of hustle-bar and back-room with labirinths, glory holes, etc, it does serve alcohol and patrons circulate in various stages of undressing and if they choose, fully clothed. Haven't been there yet (I'm out of the country), but is certainly the most talked about affair in the local social media. Not able to figure out yet the situation with GP's, if they are available and the quality. If anyone is in town or on the way please advise!

I'M curious about Florianopolis sauna with boys, the only time I was there I was told that such a thing never existed, but another info told me that there was one but it was closed for like a year. Major bummer cause the eye candy I've seen around was close to heaven on Earth!

Check the tread "Sao Paulo escort sites" on this forum, has the best tips.

At Sao Paulo airport one time I tried to exchange around $40.00 in reais, just to have some pocket money and they charged around $60 something dollars. Is a flat rate of 20 something dollars for the house, regardless of the amount you are converting, so the less you exchange the more infuriating the whole thing becomes. I had similar problem in Europe, although I don't remember the fee being so high.

Whatever you decide, never do any exchange at airports in Rio or Sao Paulo, they have a (legal) surcharge that you don't have to pay anywhere else, exchange places are widely available, I specially get good rates at one called Universal in Rio near Copacabana Palace hotel.

Although I usually don't step in controversies I believe I get the characters of a certain (under) class in Brazil in particular Rio and looks to me that the other guy, maybe not a sauna garoto got to the frame of mind "we are here in this happening place without any money to score and there is a fucking faggott walking around, let's making give us what we need, he won't do anything, after all he is just a..." Happens when income disparity collides with extreme prejudice. It happens a lot in Brazil and elsewhere when the wrong factors combine. Our orientation is not accepted and is certainly an affront especially to some disadvantaged individuals. Do bad things to us unfortunately is totally accepted and justified.

2 other escort sites in Sao Paulo: Malicia.com And Garotolandia. I believe this one also use the address garotos.com Check Google for the complete address, I have not actually used any of them, I prefer to check the guys in loco at the saunas, but occasionally browse the sites to check the stock available, garotolandia specially have some fine specimens. Being in Sao Paulo, I think is nearly absurd not to check Lagoa often, even if is not the best nights, is always possible to find a gemm on a Tuesday or whenever, some choice boys are taken for the weekend in advance, so they stop by on weeknights to get the extra they are rightly positive they will get. Tip # 1: if you are not a regular the busiest nights are really hard, the hot boys tend to pay attention only to customers they already know, and there are a lot of them (customers) on these nights. Tip # 2: if you must go on a busy night and you are not a regular, get there early, like 5 or 5:30 there will be some hot boys around and a lot less competition. Tip#3: If you have time to spare, the early shift is always a good idea, even on regular nights. Although there are less boys (and customers), some hot boys have after 8:00 commitments (customers, nightlife jobs) and leave the place at 7 or 7:30. In short: choice boys don't pay attention to busiest nights or prime-time cause they don't have to.

I know for a fact there are a lot of Gaiety (NYC) lovers/goerd in this section, so please take a look a the post I just did at the "Hot Spot" section of this forum, where is more appropriate and, if is the case, help me out and a bunch of other people, I'm sure.

I agree that most garotos might prefer the hotel room environment, however, some tourists and even some locals might prefer a close encounter before committing. I, myself, take into consideration their demeanor, the way they walk, the way they talk, the heavenly masculine and hopefully natural sound of their voice. Yes, you can call me picky! A picture on the screen don't tell me much, have very little use, if any, for the internet. Street trade, is preferable than a screen, but it is too intense, rushed and obviously dangerous. At a sauna you can, at ease, get the cake and eat it too!

My previous post regarding Airbnb rentals is not totally correct, in my experience I took a room in a family apartament and was told I was not supposed to bring any guests, but reading Tomcal post I realized that might not always be the case, if somebody rents an entire space, let's say a one bedroom apartment where the owner is not present, bringing guests might not be an issue and actually might be more convenient than a hotel for this purpose, in short, Airbnb might be OK, just avoid families units if you'd like sauna boys sleeping with you.

Comparing Brazil with Cuba is just absurd, despite being in a crisis Brazil is an economic powerhouse, the 10th or so economy in the world (look it up!), with a huge middle class, bigger than almost most European country, while Cuba.... The current economic crisis that is taking many local customers away, should be bringing new quality talent to the scene, this is logical and is not happening cause the culprits (sauna owners) don't know how to do their job properly, don't know how to adapt the situation to their advantage, decade after decade they still believe they are "show business impresarios" , that's why the useless drag queens make more money than 90% of garotos, the meat and potatoes of their business. No, tourists in Brazil do not prefer the street trade, negligible locally due the violence, saunas are taking a hit because of the internet and because the gatekeepers are not smart enough to explore the situation. Quality of the meat and nothing else is king (or queen).

Airbnb should not be the first choice to people interested in bringing boys home, security is the main concern not only from the host but from the buildings as well, if you ask your host, ver likely will be denied, try to find a gay host and let him know in advance, maybe he will go for it. Brazil is an expensive country for almost everything, except for sex. Clothing in the US is far cheaper, bring the clothes with you. Rio has some top notch restaurants, Antiquarius and Fasano comes to mind, very expensive as well. A good idea is going on Google and tap "best restaurants in Rio", in some cases they will also give you price idea, only bring with you boyfriend material, if you are lucky to find one. Sauna boys are a total overkill.