demedici

This is a good a place as any to say goodbye. I learned a lot from this forum and really appreciated the advice people like @Tomcalgave so generously. Like some of the eager travelers who discovered Brazil here I may have been annoying at times and may have pressed too far in getting leads, for that, I apologize. But if every post now is going to get hijacked and we know we can't trust the fellas on this forum with pictures, which did make this place a lot more fun, then I think it's a good a time as any to retire my sexy avatar and move on. Good luck to everyone and safe travels.

I miss the photos, they make the posts more interesting, but sadly, I would not recommend anyone post pictures.

There are also two other clubs. Sauna 520 and club 773. No personal experience but 773 is supposed to be very nice. Both reportedly have working guys.

No, I think you have to sign in to see the photos but all it takes is an email address. I stopped posting non public photos of anyone's face a long long time ago on the public side of the forum. What really disappoints me is that someone also shared, twice, photos from the members only club that @tomcal set up. There is something fun about sharing a bit of your experience with other travelers and also seeing whom they met in the hopes you'll see them in your next trip to Brazil or wherever. But Tom is right, fool me once shame on me. I won't post any pictures going forward.

Got to go to mezzaninu twice this weekend, Saturday and Sunday. Both nights were huge disappointments. The first they did not have the large towels my plus size ass requires and I was left to flash half the club almost all the time. I would have stayed clothed but really wanted a steam sauna so, balls out. That first night we, we is me and a travel companion who is very good looking and very very endowed, looked and looked for a passivo to come play with us. We found two but the first refused to come with us when he saw a picture of the thing. The second went along the look on his face when my friend found his way in was about what you'd see if you asked someone to provide a proof of the Pythagorean Theorem. I couldn't stop laughing at the blend of sheer confusion, pleasure and pain. The second day we invited a friend we found on a website. He was quite good, maybe a bit expensive, but he stayed with us for a couple hours and had a great time. The problem that day was that they completely ran out of towels. A quick Sharon Stone is one thing. Walking around like a nudist on his birthday was a step too far. I had to skip the steam sauna and share single towel with the guys when we all showered after our time together. Oh and the ac was out in the suite and we were all bathed in man sweat before during and after. I know some of you will think that is a plus, but it would have been nice to have been able to cool off.

@pauleiroI would follow @Riobard suggestions on this. I reached out to him and discovered my friend in BH has his car in the shop and is looking for someone to sponsor the repairs. I declined so if you pop up he'll be very keen.

About ten years ago I knew a guy in Rio who said he charged R120 for out calls. In the sauna it was slightly less. He has aged extremely well, learned English and today, he is still working for a group of select clients. He is said to charge R500/hr and several thousand a day for trips to Greece, France, Mexico, etc. Is paying a lot always or mostly always overpaying?

I love numazu's reports and would not mind meeting his terrific driver friend. But unlike fucking, bowel movements are deeply personal things that probably should never be shared.

When I'm in SP I try to make a point of seeing this guy. He's extraordinarily good at what he does.... Very sweet, as you can tell. Much better option than Mr. London. I think he really wants to leave Brazil, I'm just not the marrying type.

Glad to hear you're OK Tom.

Dragon in Fortaleza is the best looking sauna in Brazil. It is a gorgeous space.

One more point that is bugging me. An argument based on anecdotal evidence is something like this : a guy from New York robbed me, therefore New Yorkers are thieves. It involves limited examples or personal experiences to make broad statements or conclusions. Citing broad national statistics is the opposite of that. The conclusions could still be incorrect and the survey methodology could be flawed, but that is a different argument. Oh and calling someone a racist xenophobe in the middle of a discussion on crime and risk is an ad hominem fallacy. That means you attack the person and not the argument. Finally, I agree there is no way to be perfectly safe, even at home in your basement, other than being dead. I still disagree though that you can't do anything to be "careful" in Brazil and in most places with similar crime issues, to lower your risk of becoming a victim. You stay in nicer areas, don't wear jewelry, don't flash around electronics, and don't bring strangers home. This may only lower the risk slightly and none of it would have helped the OP. Whatever the risk, I agree with everyone who said the risk is worth it because Brazil is a pretty amazing place.

I know him as Bruno. I only met him once... Need to repeat.

And since you wanted to look into his eyes...

@Latbear4blk you are arguing against a point I am not making. I neither said the US is paradise or that Brazil is a shit hole. I said Brazil overall is more dangerous than the US and lots of US cities. That is only an argument for a little bit of caution. If you disagree and think caution is unnecessary, I think that is irresponsible advice. The statistics are fairly clear, the Brazil murder rate is just under 30/100K. The US murder rate is just under 6/100K. In terms of specific cities, in my mind, New York and São Paulo are comprable in terms of crime rates and the level of caution you might want to exercise. I would put Rio on par with New Orleans or maybe Miami: stay in the touristy parts and don't show bling. There are far more dangerous cities in Brazil, but we don't talk much about those here in this forum as they are not usually international tourist destinations.

My point was that we should not trust that thiefs won't get violent because they fear the police. I also disagreed with the implication that the OP did something to hasten the violence. Brazil poses some level of danger higher than what you'd find in most US cities and my primary advice would be to take precautions, like carrying a little cash in your pocket, and enjoy the scenery.

Between 5% and 8% of homicides in Brasil are actually solved and someone is tried for the murder. Only 2% of robberies in Sao Paulo, I doubt most criminals have an active fear of the police.

ChThat is a terrible shame. I have heard that a muggers feel cheated when they go to the trouble of brandishing a season and get nothing for it. They are already pumped up on adrenaline and it is very common for them to attack the victim of they don't get something for their troubles. We should all take precautions in Brazil, especially Rio. Just as we would in parts of Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis. All cities with dangerous naighborhoods.

On two occasions I neglected to discuss the issue of renumeration and both times the thing broke down into a scene. Once I was asked to pay $350 and did because I was embarrassed. Another, I pushed back and offered to go to the manager to sort it all out and things magically became easier to resolve. It was a dangerous omission but I'm happy it worked out. I have always been a fan of BH's sauna.

I wonder if that is one guy or all of them. If it is an agency, that is a big shame. Update : there may be an agency that is using the site for some guys but I checked a couple of the guys that I've spoken to before and their number is the same as in my contacts. It could also be that some guys have an auto response turned on for a putaria account in whatsapp.

I wonder if that is one guy or all of them. If it is an agency, that is a big shame.

Make that Garotocomlocal.com.br

In another thread I mentioned how grindr is working out well in Brazil. I actually ran into this guy there. He is in Sao Paulo at the moment. Things under the hood are quite good. I won't post that here, but take a look at the length of those fingers.

So in my last trip to Rio grindr was definitely an easy go to at any time of day or night. One word of caution, TK on a profile, or tkando, usually means the person is looking for or offering harder drugs. I avoid them as personal preference. Some faceless grindr pics below. Also, I discovered another gp site. Garotoscomlocal.com.br. Don't be surprised if some of them don't actually have a "local" or place where they can host. I mention it because it is by far the biggest selection of working men I've seen in Brazil.