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I tried keeping up with both sites for a while and found some of my favorite posters on both, so it wasn't a big hassle when Daddy took a vacation. These days, I don't have time to follow two sites, and am wondering if it would make sense to just load up a UHaul and shift my few belongings over here. But I'd hate to leave my favorite posters behind, if and when Daddy re-opens, and I've heard there are some Daddy's posters who wouldn't be caught dead over here, and some MER posters who wouldn't be caught dead over there. Is this still true? As you say, folks do seem to gravitate back to Daddy's when he re-opens, but I'm never certain how long the welcome mat will stay out. All that said, I do appreciate the efforts by the moderators on both sites, and am more than willing to do what I can to make their lives easier.

Before 9/11, I rarely traveled without one. They're particularly effective with squalling infants as the tiny dart disappears into the folds of their diapers and doesn't get noticed until the next change, usually after touchdown. I once got twins three rows back by pretending to sneeze while getting a pillow from the overhead compartment.

I'm still amazed by the number of harmful substances my generation survived growing up. I loved the taste of leaded paint as evidenced by the boyish teethmarks in my bedroom window sill. I looked forward to going with my father and smelling the fumes as he filled the tank with leaded gas. A favorite plaything was the shiny silver mercury my sisters brought home from high school science class. And we boys couldn't wait for the first tick spraying truck of summer so we could ride our bikes behind it and disappear in the thick cloud of DDT. Bat shit? You betcha. Bird shit? Bring it on!

Wikipedia - "The Jetex engine was a type of solid-fuel rocket engine produced for use as a powerplant for model aircraft . . . The most popular motor, the Jetex 50, was introduced in May 1949, along with kits for a model plane and model car using Jetex power. . . Jetex engines were powered by a solid pellet of guanidine nitrate, which burnt to release a variety of gases in copious volume, leaving no solid residue or ash. Thrust developed was fairly modest, suitable for horizontally launched flying models rather than vertically launched rockets. The exhaust gas was not excessively hot, which conferred a safety advantage." Try telling that to an overly protective mother! I lusted after anything that would get me in the air, however symbolically; but, alas, had to wait another few years until junior high gym class. Haven’t touched the ground since. Sorry, AdamSmith for highjacking this worthy thread, but MsGuy offered some childhood memories that were too good to pass up. I’ve never fully got my head around space exploration, as it seems, and probably is, limitless. I don’t know how to fit it within all the other priorities we have as a species. But I did see an interesting program the other night that showed a big thingummy on the moon that generated power and beamed pure energy back to a receiving station on earth. I seem to recall it was a lunar nuclear power plant, but it may have been solar. The idea was that it would soon be feasible and economical to do something like that. Now that would bring space right into our living rooms. It also makes one think of a greater role for the private sector in exploring space and, inevitably, exploiting space. I can see it now: BlackHole Industries: “We pollute the universe so you don’t have to!”

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And the turbulence-resistant pince-nez surely?

Love to hear, if you'd care to tell. In the meantime, an old wheeze about a woman who lands in the OR after a heart attack and has a near-death experience. She asks God if her time is up, and He says, "No, actually you've got another thirty years and seven months." She decides to stay in the hospital and have liposuction, tummy tuck, face lift, breast implants, teeth whitening, and a full makeover and henna rinse in the hospital beauty salon. She steps out six weeks later looking like a million bucks, and is run over by an ambulance at the front entrance. Face to face with God once again, this time for good, she asks why He told her she had thirty years left and then ran her down with an ambulance. "Damn!", says God, "Was that you?"

Make that 2000.

Steven, I'd like to add my pat on the back to MSGuy's. You've been writing very thoughtfully on this subject, and got me thinking too. I don't have any message suggestions for you, but I do have a suggestion for where to get some. Many of my years were spent in marketing and presenting information in a way that changed minds. I think that work is similar to what you have in front of you. One of the things I learned is the need to present a message that resonates with my audience, and not necessarily the message that resonates with me and my friends. Job one is to determine who my audience is and, to do that, I need a strategy. That seems to have been lacking in the "No on 8" campaign last fall, and it may well be lacking today. But, in my opinion, getting a good strategy is the first thing they need to do. A good strategy will lead you to the best message(s), and the best chance of success. Without a good strategy, the campaign could end up burning a lot of cash and volunteer hours without changing many minds. And the wrong message to the wrong audience could actually end up making things worse. I'll use an example. Let's say that the new "No on 8" campaign wants to look at a strategy that converts the vote of 50% of church-going black voters from a "Yes on 8" to a "No on 8", and they figure that would be enough votes to swing the next ballot measure. In that case, they get a bunch of church-going black voters into small groups and find out what's on their minds. You can't change opinions unless you first understand them very well. Then you put together some ideas based on what you heard the small groups telling you, and you try out those ideas on other small groups of church-going black voters. You find that some of those ideas resonate and some don't. You also find out that they look to their friends and their church for political information, and not to TV or the internet. You may also learn that they don't usually open their doors to strangers. A hypothetical example like that might lead you to a strategy of reaching this group in their churches. You might find a black gay couple who are married, or want to be married, to address the congregants. They may tell the congregation that they have the Lord in their hearts and they have each other in their hearts, and they don't want to have to choose between them. This message wouldn't work going door to door, but these voters may not open their doors anyway. This message may also be good for TV, but it won't be very effective in reaching this audience. You may also find that that there isn't any message that resonates with these voters. And that tells you that you need another strategy. At least you'll know in time to do something else. My small community provides another example. Voters here turn out and are very liberal (Nader got more votes than Bush in 2004). We voted 80% against Prop 8. But I still got a call from a "No on 8" volunteer. I thanked him, told him he had my vote, and let him move on to his next call. There's not much reason to call people in my community. The things that work best here are yard signs and notices at the post office. Even then, there aren't that many more votes to be had. There are other ideas and strategies to explore, and there are consultants who can help you do it. There are companies who specialize in getting small groups together, finding out what they think, and what ideas could cause them to change their minds. There's advice to be had on which tactics work best for which audiences. I'm not sure whether you are on the front lines of the new campaign, or in the strategy development part, or both. But I think the work that needs to be happening right now is strategic, and it should come before folks start knocking on doors. My two cents, anyway, along with thanks and very good wishes.

As per usual, I'd never heard of her before your illuminative post yesterday. Much obliged once again. She makes Bea Arthur sound like a soubrette. I know what I'll be humming as I squeeze the melons this afternoon.

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Right you are. And, although there are relatively few, you'll also find "erotic services" ads up and running in all of Europe and South America, as well as China, Egypt, India, Lebanon, Malaysia, Pakistan, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates. So much for free speech.

It feels to me like Craig Newmark and his fellow employees run CraigsList according to their own values. One of those values is not making a lot of money, at least not now. They make enough to keep the operation going, fund a nonprofit organization, and do whatever else they feel like doing. Now they have to start paying some major legal fees in support of other values. I'd guess the $5 ad fee goes towards that. It's too bad they've got to take on this battle, but I'm glad they are. Who better? I hope it goes quickly, although it could sure end up being a biggie. I really hope these folks hold fast. It's nice to see a company that doesn't dance to Wall Street's tune.

I don't find this Board to be especially hidebound. Maybe I just show up at the wrong times, but discussions here seem pretty nuanced and civil to me. With regard to gay marriage and gays in the military, it's a no brainer for me that we will end up on the winning side of both of those issues. I don't know when. If we look to Obama to do the heavy lifting on these issues, then we have to accept his timetable. If we want to speed up the change of public opinion on our own, we can do that too, and that will move them higher in the political agenda. As far as Carrie Prejean, she can believe whatever she wants, and tell anybody who'll listen to her. No skin off my ass.

According to his biography, he's about three hundred years younger than I am. But I'm willing to give it a try if he is.

Just so I've got this clear for my Bridge Club tonight, was it the escort singing "Onward Christian Soldiers", or was it Jude Law? I wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea.

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All things being equal, I'd prefer fewer limits on what can be discussed. Politics are front and center these days, and I usually learn something from the posters here, so I like to hear various viewpoints and add when I can. Unfortunately, some folks haven't yet learned how to disgree with ideas without attacking the person who holds them. And it's not only here that political discussions foster ad hominem attacks. It's often the case that politics and rudeness go hand in hand. Since this site works hard to eliminate rudeness, it won't be easy to allow political discussions. But I'll throw out a few suggestions that might make it easier. They've probably all been considered, and may have already been rejected, but here goes: â— Establish a separate forum for political discussions, so readers can avoid them if they want to. â— Consider letting someone else moderate the political forum, since you don't like to. â— Set a fairly low bar for getting booted from the site; e. g., three strikes and you're out. There are other sites where civility isn't required. â— Make it clear why a post counts as a strike. You don't have to defend your reasoning, just explain it. That said, whatever you decide is fine by me. You've done a great job with this site just as it is, and you've got my vote. Unless of course the SCOTUS has a problem.

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