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Townie, your dumb friend was on again last night. He makes it clear that he has the favors and even gives his phone number. So, if CL is a hotbed of police, as some say, look for pinstripes soon!

I monitor the Palm Springs listings from time to time but have never bitten. I do wonder how stupid some of these people are: smoking and staying up late looking for company - 34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: pers-274187252@craigslist.org Date: 2007-02-06, 2:00AM PST here partying looking for other like minded go fast men to pnp with at my place in south palm springs rick 760 four nine zero ****

Why bother? Why do people look for diamonds in manure fields?

Hopefully the police are working diilgently to find the killer. The most effective investigative techniques would not look first to long-ago encounters of the kind described in his reviews, but would look for more recent contacts, or situations where the reviewer clearly knew the suspect well. So, theoretically, riptide could be right, but practically speaking, there is little risk to previous clients. The reality is that many clients do not want to be exposed as such but there is a greater good to be accomplished here so their interests would have to go by the wayside. My guess is that any police investigation would be discreet as they are looking for information, not exposure. Personally, I would be glad to help if an escort I had hired turned out to be a murderer. Unless, of course, if he had murdered me, then I would hope that you guys would help!

"I have never been drunk once and I don't like any alcohol" And he doesn't watch porn, either...I wonder if that excludes the SuperBowl

As of 9 pm tonight, PDT: PENNSYLVANIA CRIME STOPPERS IS OFFERING A CASH REWARD OF UP TO $2,000.00 THAT LEADS TO AN ARREST IN THIS ARSON/HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION.

Well, good for you, Oz. Of course adult people should have the right to make decisions about their own behavior, and other people should have the right to profit from their stupidity. It's these profiteers who have drawn a line...all the way to the bank. So while the barebackers will end up counting their T-cells, the bareback promoters will end up counting their money, and everyone will live happily ever after, won't they? Just like cocaine dealers who are just giving people what they want...and they are...people that profit from human weakness only have to draw the line where their own conscience starts. As for me, the only line I draw is that I don't bareback. What other people do is obviously out of my control. As for my statement that you quote, yes, I would not want to associate with you if you were the owner of Cobra Video. That's my choice. You obviousy don't like porn, so you don't watch it. That doesn't make you any better or worse than anyone who does. And who is saying that people can't watch porn? Not me. But I don't have to associate with the Kocises of the world if I don't want to, and I don't. Except here, of course, where every kind of weirdo, including me, gets his say. In the end, we all go on with our lives and get a snicker out of the way someone responded to someone else. I do think that you are an upright guy, I just don't pat you on the back the same way that you do over the choices that you have made. Thanks, though, for giving me the forum to speak my piece. That I like!

As Jay Leno said last night, this scandal will be good for San Francisco as it proves there is straight life there! The mayor, who recently showed up drunk after a police shooting, was screwing his campaign manager's wife. She revealed this during her rehab process for substance abuse. Fun and games in SF...

Please note that Barry is speaking in response to post #49, not me!

Okay. I will withdraw my description of him as a predator. It is a moot point anyway.

Thank you for your warm thoughts. I never called you a pedophile lover, but if the shoe fits...You seem to have no trouble defending Kocis but can't find a good word to say about Ben or Scott. It's true that I had never heard of Kocis or his video company until now. Nothng I have heard has endeared me to the man or his work. Why you feel so strongly about this case is still a mystery. And how is that reward contribution coming? You didn't mention that. That you feel so strongly about what I think is amusing.

"I do not agree with your choice to refer to Bryan as a "predator" considering the man is deceased and was clearly a victim in his death. I doubt that we will see any association with his conviction and his murder. It also should be noted that the court agreed the minor lied to him about his age thus the non-sexual offender status. Hey some of the escorts who have profiles on this site concern me in regard to their age. But I have complete confidence that Tampa Yankee and Totally Oz do their best to weed out any that might not be legal. You also quoted the bareback producer part of the statement as reason to enough to refer tot he decease as a "predator." As you know there is nothing illegal about two adults in a consensual sexual agreement. Quite frankly if you truly believe so strongly that men like Bryan are so evil because they support and earn(ed) income from bareback sex then you really should not participate on this site. By your participation you're supporting the same type of act you claim to be so strongly opposed to. I do want to take a moment and apologize to you about my 9-11 remark. It was truly uncalled for and written at the heat of the moment." *** First of all, I accept your apology. Now I would like to address some of your other comments. In choosing to label the deceased as a predator, I relied on the information in riptide's link. Subsequently I have read an article about the conviction in a local newspaper. It does appear that he was not required to register as a sex offender as the case was pled down. But the fact is that he is on tape having sex with a fifteen year old. This Corrigan kid was also underage when he had sex and did a film for the deceased. At the very least, the deceased had a very bad ability to detect underage guys, but given his profession, I really doubt it. The predator label seems fine to me. I am opposed to barebacking. Recently a friend found out that he had 13 T-cells and PCP, only five years after he tested negative. Why? Because he got into barebacking. Read jason curious' blog where one boy tells about Ashton Ryan spreading HIV through barebacking and you only begin to see the damage it does to young lives. Certainly older guys can choose for themselves, but for a young guy to be offered money to bareback on film is the height of social irresponsibility and Kocis was that irresponsible, in my opinion. Now, how is my participation in this site a support of barebacking? Simply because Totally Oz owns a bareback web site does not bother me. Barebacking is happening whether I like it or not. This site itself does nothing to encourage it. IF I knew that Oz owned a video production company where barely legal guys were being encouraged to bareback, then, yes, I would stop posting here. But I don't think that is the fact as I have never seen anything to support it. I think Oz cares about the guys he works with and would not endanger them in such a way. Finally, riptide says he donated another $1000 to the existing $2000 reward forthe capture of Kocis' killer. Funny, the reward today is still $2000. (See Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers)

The link you provided from gaypornblog contains the quote I used in my post: Fri Jan-26-07 01:28 PM by Riptide If you've been following this very sick and twisted relationship between Brent Corrigan and cobra owner Bryan Kocis, and didn't think it could any more bizzare, you would have been wrong. Yikes!!! http://www.gaypornblog.com/archives/2007/0...o_own.html#more http://www.citizensvoice.com/site/news.cfm...id=455154&rfi=6

In order to have your character assasinated, you have to have character. Riptide's very first post in this thread contains this information about the deceased: "Kocis, a convicted child molester, was the owner of Cobra Video, a popular bareback twink studio" Enough said.

Your bizarre interest in this case is what is pathetic, along with your continual hammering of escorts Benjamin and Scott. What is your animosity towards escorts all about? Yet you are all worked up about the death of a predatory pedophile barebacker. The Palm Springs party will be quite fine without you, so don't bother to come. Just stay home and exhale.

If you thought that riptide's interest in this case could get any more bizarre, you would have been wrong. He donated a thousand dollars to finding the killer! Dude, the predator is already dead. Your money comes too late!

"How is Palm Springs in February?" Well, I don't know yet, but ask me in a few days! Or better yet, come to our killer party on the 17th!

This was riptide yesterday: First off, I’d like to personally apologize to everyone and anyone who read my last posted remarks within this thread. The language of which I used horrifies me a day later. Calling someone a stupid mother fucker to convey a thought of reasoning, discredits my point of view with no ability to rebound from. I’m working on that. Sometimes, I need to chill, before I post. The reason I say that is because I never got around to sharing why my inappropriate use of words set me off they way they did, and quite frankly, had I done that, would still hold no value for it anyway. I don’t believe for a moment that Scott Adler is a bad person. But today he really lets one rip. Scott is now nearly an accessory to murder and a "fucking asshole"! Wow. The tides can really change in a day!

My ass loves to be deluded!

Adam Smith never met Scott Adler, thus his philosophy does not account for an incessantly aggravating factor that by sheer endurance would wear down normal market practices.

Oz, I thought Townie was complaining about the hooker in question encouraging other young escorts to charge high rates...to their detriment. He wasn't challenging the hooker in question's right to charge whatever he wants for himself. If the younger hookers are so stupid as to follow such advice, then maybe the hooker in question is actually doing them the favor of showing them the door before they are too long in the wrong profession!

Someone's ears must be burning!

Conway is more conservative than I am, or so I think, but I do agree with him on Edwards. As a trial lawyer myself, I cringe when I see slick guys like Edwards trying to act sincere. His "Two Americas" campaign seemed designed to split the country, not unite it. I think he left the Senate just so he wouldn't have to box himself into any clear cut positions before the next election. His agony over supporting gay marriage is not encouraging. Right now I am for Al Gore. Obama needs experience.

Why is Adam Smith so often quoted but so rarely read? Is he the prsioner of his 900-page text "The Wealth of Nations?" My favorite Newsweek columnist Allan Sloan reviews the new book "On The Wealth of Nations" by conservative humorist/pundit P.J. O'Rourke in today's New York Times Book Review. For all of you wondering what it is that Adam Smith has been trying to tell us, here is a glorified Cliff's Notes version, apparently quite readable! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/books/review/Sloan.t.html

Did you get in when you tried the second night?