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Last time I went to paradise complex was 2-3 years ago, the bars seemed more like jomtien complex host bars than anything like gogos (this was during covid, so that may be a factor). There weren't as many guys, but you can ask one of the workers to have a drink with you and negotiate from there. I only had a few drinks with guys and didn't take anyone so i can't confirm price expectations. I had a few massages in the small soi in the middle of the complex, i had a decent experience there, same price as bangkok. I didn't see any other gay oriented places other than Paradise Complex, apps had a few guys around looking for customers.

It's a wild ride of emotions coming back for a weekend to see what the latest news on GayGuides is and looking at the recent olddaddy posts. One minute, 5 weeks twice a year is too much time in thailand, next invest it all and open a 24/7 venue. Good fortunes to you, I look forward to the postings of OldDaddy the Jomtien bar owner.

Grindr uses a keywords and emojis to flag potential violations of their terms of service. They were required to implement it because the company is HQ in the US, US laws against prostitution mean they are required to 'take measures to prevent it on their app' in all regions, despite ownership by a Chinese company. Using $, MB, P4P, massage, 🤑 💵 💲 etc can flag your account for review, it used to just be in your profile but it's probably in messages as well by now. https://help.grindr.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500009296922-How-Grindr-moderates-content-and-profiles They do also have a pretty low bar for banning accounts based on user reports too, so it's easy to catch a ban from upset guys you reject. Sometimes you see accounts last a while with the keywords in their profiles, but more often than not the account will get banned within a few days. You can easily avoid it, instead of 'how much $' just say 'meet me 2000'. The filters aren't that smart, just need to be a bit careful with avoiding the obvious $ and trade words.

This site seems to have a few of the more popular saunas and onsens listed, I just have it in my research notes so I can't give any experiences (yet). https://www.gayifiers.com/gay-scene/tokyo-gay-sauna-cruising-onsen-gay-bar-club A lot of the saunas seem to be strict on the rules, age, japanese speaker/local only, etc. Looking at websites for them usually have a set of rules to rule in/out if they are foreigner and age friendly. The saunas below are the ones I've found in my search that seem to accept foreigners. Body Breath (foreigners ok, short hair only, under 40) - http://www.bodybreath.jp/ Na Mara (new and cleaner facilities, range of guys, prep discount bring bottle) - https://www.na-ma-ra.com/ Wankers union (mostly uni students, hug n tug only) - http://www.wa-union.com/ 24Kaikan Shinjuku (Doreigner friendly, less private rooms) - http://www.juno.dti.ne.jp/~kazuo24/shinjyuku/shinjyuku.htm Deepthroat Men Shinjuku (very foreigner friendly) - https://www.dt-men.com/ Ninja (possibly foreigner friendly, but some say it is small) Hook in Yokohama - under 49 only - 20s crowd, seems accepting of foreigner https://hook.yokohama/ some sites might need to be on a VPN with Japanese IP otherwise it will say forbidden.

Another one to add to the agency list - outcall only but they can apparently arrange a room, i'm not sure if that is really any different to the other shops https://www.push-fave.com/cast/

I would be very interested in any report you're willing to share after your trip. I return to Japan later this year, I'm well into my research of those albums and excitement is building haha.

Interesting perspective and report, thanks for sharing. I also come from the younger side of the typical demographic for customers, but I would say I rarely feel overlooked, maybe it was just some bad luck on that occurrence with those mamasans. Expectations vs reality can sometimes be an issue, but I hope you decide to give Bangkok another chance. It can take some time to find the right bars and guys that really match what you're looking for, but there's a lot of options out there, both free and paid. Keep in mind August is also low season, I would test it out again November to February.

I use Nams, Sedan L cars have always been comfortable and the drivers are good. https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/services

I can't say I've tried, but in Pattaya along Second Rd (both sides) between Boyztown and Royal Garden Plaza there are ladyboy massage shops. I didn't spot any femboy types, but I did go with a guy at one of the shops in a trip i just returned from. Pattaya ladyboy gogos and bars are pretty common, again no experience but some places to look: - Soi 6/1 is the alley behind Soi 6 and known to be the ladyboy soi, some of the bars that are on this side of Soi 6 apparently have mixed ladyboy and lady workers. - Sensations - Delirious - 69bar - Duangjai bar - Kathoeys R Us on Walking St Maybe try looking on https://www.ladyboyspattaya.com/ or https://www.bangkokladyboys.net/

Chatuchak weekend market Jodd fairs Rama 9 night market MBK / Siam Square / Central World / T21 shopping centers Icon SIAM shopping center Chinatown Taking Chan floating market Mahanakhon observation deck Bangkok Art and Cultural Center (BACC) - it's a modern art gallery next to MBK but probably more interesting to him than a museum Lumphini is nice for an afternoon walk, i did see outdoor gym there but didn't investigate closer, you can also hire those little paddle boats if you want a lomantic little paddle boat around 😂 Bars Tichuca Rooftop Bar Cassette Bar / HI-SO (SO/ hotel) Above Eleven Vertigo (Banyan Tree Hotel) Gaze cocktail bar Thong Lor The standard - mahanakhon building That's probably all i have off the top of my head / notes

great report, thanks for sharing. Good boy is definitely on my visit list after recent reports, usually I autopilot straight up to freshboys.

If you find some good flights why not, 7 days is better than none. If you can get a directs flight after work overnight, and arrive back the day before work I would do it.

I was in Japan this year and have been curious about the Japanese services, do you know if the Osaka rooms they provide in the same area? If I wanted to stay nearby for convenience, would it be better to stay near Shinsaibashi, Shin-osaka or Umeda? understanding the metro is convenient and easy, just wondering where the hotspot might be for gay services, if there is one. I'm hoping to return after my next Thailand trip, this time solo so I can try things out for myself.

I'm trying to work out if those stands are magnifying glasses, lights or both. Dire situation... poor lads.

ST = Short Time - the guy goes back to your room and you do the deed then he leaves. LT = Long time - usually overnight and sometimes the morning LLT = Long long time - multi-day/night arrangements, i would say do this only when you know him and you have good chemistry. When in the bar and you have picked the guy you like and you're having your drink with him, ask if him 'you want to go short/long time with me', then he will usually respond with yes and price paid to him directly in the room after the time. The bar also charges a fee 'off fee' to take him from the bar and it will be added to your bill in the bar. I'm not in BKK atm, I can only travel to and from when work permits unfortunately.

I get the feeling about being hesitant with the pressure, I'm also not a big drinker most of the time and I'm fairly introverted so I dislike having someone hovering trying to get me to make decisions. The first time I went a few years ago I was alone and very nervous, but after that first time it's easy. Sometimes I think we give the impression it's going to be relentless and confrontational, but it really isn't 99% of the time. It's just them trying to keep you there buying (any) drinks and hopefully getting you to take someone off. The mamasans don't care what you drink as long as you're not sitting on empty forever, most of the time I'm just drinking soda and lime (Schweppes Manao Soda). If the mamasan is asking you to pick a guy from stage and you either don't want to or haven't made a decision, just say "I will watch and chose later". Most of the time they get the hint and leave you alone for a bit while you decide to pick someone or pay your bill. The MBs are usually the least pressure in the bars i've found, it's after the ST or LT they'll send messages and try to get you back. You can avoid it by just not giving them your Line or Social Media. I still get a bit uncomfortable if the gogo is empty and I have a stage full of hopeful eyes looking at me, so maybe do a lap of the bars and look for one that isn't empty for the first time. If you go just before the show or during the show times it's more likely to have a crowd to sit and observe for a while. I'm under 50 and not there atm to intro, but i wish you well.

I second that, I went back 3 nights in a row for it last trip. @vinapu yeah it's directly across from Dicks, small outdoor kitchen/bar.

Interesting to see Khon Kaen being put forward as an option, i've never been there but have met a couple of very attractive guys from there. Has anyone here spent much time in Khon Kaen? any info on the gay scene there?

depends who you ask haha, i'm still in my 30s but doing my part to continue the legacy of gay pattaya

Can you share the youtube video? I can't answer any questions though, it was all before i was born

For a very long time Australia has made it very hard for them to get visas to visit Aus, apparently there are changes in the works for relaxing the student and working holiday visas for them, but it would be hypocritical to expect them to give us visa-free when they had very little opportunities to step foot in our country regardless of what they allow for others.

not looking to be contentious, but more curious. What was the racism your friend experienced in Thailand? I was under the impression Thais were pretty friendly to foreigners regardless of skin tone. I've witnessed some of the bar girls call out to a black guy calling him chocolate man, but i got the impression it was more endearing rather than as an insult. I can understand Japan, foreigners get rejected from venues and services or just ignored entirely, because we don't speak Japanese.

My most liveable city/country list comes from Grindr's annual unwrapped recap. That said, i'm moving to Melbourne soon, so i'm ok with either list i guess. Denmark being so high on both (and after seeing those danish twinks) might mean i need to re-evaluate sometime in the future.

nice report, sounds like a great getaway! I'm a diver and have Koh Tao on my list of places to visit, but i'm too reluctant to go alone because of the frequent deaths reported there. I just need to find a LLT MB that has his diving cert haha.

I'd be interested to read a trip report if you get the time and want to