Tomcal
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I put in my Grindr title "Businessman looking for Fun" that works well in Brazil, Mexico and Calif!
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I echo Bobbalino's comments! I usually spend just one or two days in SP each trip. Saying that, 3 of my top 4 guys currently, are from Lagoa! But i find Rio more fun and easier(and much cheaper) to get around! Some friends prefer so it is really individual. But for a first trip i did and would recommend sticking to Rio! You have 3 saunas, miles of beach and a much more "condensed" area to go/play around in.
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I have been getting a number of guys messaging me this past week now that the dates for my trip have been confrmed, and once you tell one the word spreads fast, but I had not told anyone in Porto Alegre and yesterday I got a message from the one of the "cousins" asking me what day I was going to be there and that he could pick me up at the airport! I have assiduously avoided airport pickups because they think that if they are the ones to pick you up and first to see you, they have the rights to be with you during your visit! It turns out he is going taking his 8 yr old daughter to Disneyworld in Orlando the day after I arrive and so wanted to arrange to see me before he left. This will be his second trip to Orlando. He had been a professional soccer player from 20- 24 so he had a U.S. visa. I originally me him at Mezziniu when he was 19 and was one of the first guys I met there when it opened along with his cousin. cousins.htm
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I have never been to Brasilla but 2 different friends went in the past year and they both concluded their businesss early to hurry back to Rio!
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Since I have been going there for the past 16 years, its been my observation that for the vast majority of the guys it is the ease of money for 18 - 22 yr.olds to make without a education and far exceeds what they can make in a labor job. The best example of this is I had a friend building a home in Rio, and we would go to the site to check on the progress each day. At that time they were digging out the foundation by Hand! there was a Hot 19 yr old guy with big biceps lean body who I thought was really hot. I asked the foreman to ask the guy If he would be willing to do a programma after work. I'll skip all the details but he did and 2 days later went to work in the saunas. turns out he got paid $35R/day for digging with a pick axe for 8 hrs a day in the sun, vs. working for 3 hrs in a air conditioned sauna for many times that amount of money! But the vast majority work for only 3 months to a yr. or so before they move on to "regular" employment. There are the long term sauna boys that have worked there for years(I ran into one that I met on my first trip to Rio in October of 2001) but I would guess that 75% work from 3 mo. too 1 y.
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We all have our types and you are right there is enough to go around(and around)! here are a few more photos of Diego from the first two years I knew him. the skate board he is carrying I gave him as a present for his 21st birthday!
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Msclelovr, I totally agree! I saw him a 1/2 dozen times or so when he was 20/21, then starting about 2years ago he started with the scruff look and finally last year went with the beard. numerous times he has come to me at the sauna wanting to go back to the apartment and I have always said that I had already made arrangements!
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Ouch! Serious Calcaneus fractures are painful and I can only imagine the trip even by private jet had to be really uncomfortable! I as well get the private medical evac. insurance that will fly me back home
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bobbalino, that is Diego, and I can post photos of him since he posed for a website! I met him 4 years ago at Pointe he had just turned 20. A nice guy but very quiet and reserved in public.
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Lucky, for you i will try and make this one more memorable then the past 80 or so trips i have taken there!
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Jan. 11th to 23rd
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Get the private insurance! many/most docs and dentists in Brazil have 2 offices, one for their national health care patients where there is long waits and imho less them optimal care and their private offices for their private insurance/cash customers! The private insurance patients go to office buildings where there are no names on the doors or directories but only numbers! Nice modern offices compared to their general offices. I had lost a tooth several years ago and had a implant done there, and it was done in his office 1 block from the beach on Siwquerio Campos ! It is a 12 story bldg with no names but all offices have everyone from dentists to orthopaedic surgeons! It cost 1/4 of what it would have cost in the states! My dentist and his wife were both trained in the U S as are the majority of the better specialists there.
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I confirmed my flights to Brazil for next month! I will be in Sao Paulo, Rio and Porto Alegre starting January 12th., this may be my last trip to Rio until May or June so i am looking to make as memorable as i can. :-)
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Pt 2 con't. while i think i will always go to Brazil and in fact i am going there in 2-1/2 weeks, i wanted to find a place closer to my home in Calif., that still offered the ability to meet guys! No place imho will offer me the Quanity/Variety/ and beauty of Brazil but there are still some very fun places to go to! As i grow older the 13+ hr trip to Brazil gets to be something i dread and i am usually in first or business class! For the last 4 years my friend Rob has spoken about Merida and this year opened a business there! I had not even heard of it so i went and visited him the first time in February. Within a hour of landing we were walking through the main city Square in front of the Cathedral and i met a guy who was sitting on a park bench and ended up staying the night for $20.US! It has 4 gay bars/clubs and is overall very gay friendly! And most importantly Mexico does not require Visas for Brasilians. I brought one of the guys from SP/lagoa last time and will definitely do it again!
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Badboy81, mexico was my choice for several reasons. 1) location in relation to the U.S. Was a very important reason because if for either health or family emergencies it is 1-1/2 hrs by plane from Houston which has a large Intern'l airport and in my case 2-1/2 hr flt home. 2) I wanted a place that was not only gay friendly but had a a thriving gay life and 3) that made economic sense for a 2nd home! Merida provided all this with a population of 1,000,000 and while only 100 miles from Cancun considerably cheaper in all aspects! It has a active cultural life but is not a resort city like its close neighbors, Cancun and Playa del Carmen and the homes are 1/2 the price or less!
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Here are some photos of the house I am going to make a offer on. The ceilings are 18' tall throughout the house except for the kitchen which is 12' . There is 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the main floor and a master suite on the second floor by itself which would be a great guest suite! and then a spiral staircase to the third floor rooftop deck with wet bar and bbq
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I got back last weekend from spending a week in Merida looking at a house to buy. I narrowed it down to 3! On the 2nd leg of my flight from Houston to Merida i met a guy from DC who was also coming down to look at buying a house! Over the next two days we ran into each other 3 times looking at the same houses! He ended up buying one of the ones that was in my final 3! I confined my search to the histoical section of town where the majority of homes are in the 150+ yr old range! The insides have been competely updated but maintain the feel and look of these colonial era houses! FloridaRob spent the week looking at them with me and then each night we went out and/or had a get together at my rental home(which is the one i am making a offer on after looking at 22 homes!) the second night there i invited a local escort over and Rob had a FB come over. We spent the time having drinks by the pool and then went to the bedrooms. After we got done and went to have another drink by the pool The guy wanted to know if i wanted to go to a club with him that his girlfriend works at as a stripper! Now this is like De la vous all over again and i am back in Rio! He said we will have a good time! I told him i would like to but am really tired and need to go to bed! So at 1:30 i called Uber and got him to laeave with the promise that i would go to the club with him next time! Btw, he was 22 and muscular and 1/4 Chinese and from Vera Cruz which i was told has a sizable Asian population.
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New Meio Mundo sauna in Rio
Tomcal replied to pauleiro's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
A fact many do not know is that Meo Mundo is in a "Historical Building"(which in this case means it is just fucking old and ugly, imho)! Therefore the exterior can't be changed, which is why it is a 3 story building surrounded by multi-storied office buildings! MM has it rented through 2017 and I am sure it will be renewed as I can't see what other business would want it given it's limitations! but this might explain why limited improvements have only been done there do to the high cost of remodeling and keeping within the "Historical Society's" rules for modifying these National treasures! -
No I am not in Rio now, I just got back from Mexico and home for the Holidays! Personally I go from 5:00 to 8:00 or 9:00 depending on the day and who I am meeting.
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AirBnb in RIO, can I bring a boy?
Tomcal replied to young11's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
I agree! It a case of "do as i say not what i do!" Lol. I have never had a problem and we are talking 100's of guys but i am not dumb, nothing of value is accessible! The last few years the guys i have over i know well and have no problem leaving them sleep in, for example while i go to the grocery store or in the evening head to a sauna while they visit with friends or watch TV! Again it depends on a combination of your astuteness, level of comfortability and how well you know the guys! -
AirBnb in RIO, can I bring a boy?
Tomcal replied to young11's topic in Latin America Men and Destinations
My apt does not have a doorman but it has 3 locked doors! The first one from the street to enter the bldg. the second to enter my section of the bldg. and the third to enter my apt on the third floor! I feel very safe but the bldg diesnt pay for a doorman and also after 11:00 pm it takes two separate keys to unlock the door from the street! -
He goes to NYC about 4 times a year! He told me it is his favorite city...but never told me why! lol
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here is a partial map of the metro system and you can see the three stops for the suanas. Starting in the middle/lower right which is the downtown(central)of Rio, the stop for Meo Mundo is Uruguaiana, then three stops down from there is Gloria for club 117 and 6 stops down from there is Siquerio Campos the stop for Point202. It is less then 12 mins. to go from MM to Pointe on the metro or about 30 mins. in a cab. the map is distorted somewhat because my apt is across from the General Osario station and it takes less then 2 mins to go from there to Siquero Campos two stops away.
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. the escort saunas in Rio are Pointe202 in Copacabana, Club 117 in Gloria and Meo Mundo in Centro, all within 2 to 6 blocks off the Metro(subway)line making it very easy to visit all three in a night if you want to. I have done this by starting at MM downtown and then going to 117 and then ending up at Pointe202 in Copa at the end as it is close to my apt. Attached is a picture of Junior who is the owner of Pointe202. He started out as a sauna boy about 20 years ago and then bought Estacio sauna in 2002 and Pointe202 in 2003, occasionally in the first few years I started going to Rio he would down a towel and be "working" cause a special client was coming in town! I was told his rate was many times the going rate but given he was a Top with a Big Dick it was worth to those special clients! he stopped that in about 2004. He is a grandfather now. I think he is about 44 (the photos are current) as you can tell by the wall poster hanging up behind him in his living room he is something of a ego maniac! :-)