Tomcal

i stay in 1)Planalto Paulista or 2)Moema neighborhoods when i am in SP. Both have single family homes, upscale areas, very safe to walk around in, close to restaurants and 10 -12 minutes by car from both Lagoa and CGH airport. If i would add a third stop it would be either Porto Alegre or Belo Horzonte although only for a weekend at either city! i think being your first visit i would just do Rio 75% and SP 25% of your travel time! if i were to compare the two cities i would say that Rio is like Miami Beach and São Paulo is like NYC...imho!

most of the your choices boil down to personal preferences! if it is your first time(or even 10th time)i would stay in Copacabana or Ipanema. the rest is really individual! i only stay in Airbnb’s, usually the same ones i have been using for years! but i have good friends that only stay in hotels because they like the amenities they provide over Airbnb! either way you will have a great time!

Rafael and Rodrigo! :-)

i dont remember the name of the neighborhood/section of the city but i remember thinking it was about 15 minutes from the present location in Vila Clementino.

the snakes do not feed on resident birds as they have learned to avoid them for the most part but rather catch migrating birds that use the island as a temporary rest stop.

A researcher i know spent time there about 10 years ago! i asked him what do they eat since i would have thought they would have decimated any population they preyed on! He said it’s diet consists of birds who come for a rest stop during their flights or migrations. The island is 106 acres and has over 4,000 snakes!

the two sets of cousins and set of brothers i met at the Niteroi sauna but they all showed up at Lions on Monday night! i will be in Rio from 10/25 - 10/31. let’s meet up!

no haze in SP! he told me the opening at the new location would be 11/1

it was my understanding that the sauna has been there for years and only operates as a gay sauna on Sundays! Small bar with only basic drinks i.e. Beer, Whiskey, Vodka. but the owner did send one of the guys to the store to buy some mix someone wanted! everyone was very friendly!

it is a dive compared to Pointe or Lions or 117! but i like Dive places! And the guys are more real, not yet jaded by the sauna scene! i know they are expecting some of them to show up tonight at lions! Two of the guys i met there drove me back to Copacabana and it was the first time there for both of them!

Yes it was! i think the official name is “Ponto de Encontro. PE”

I was in Brazil August 14th to 26th, spending the first 2 days in Porto Alegre, the next 6 days in Rio and the final 3 days in Sao Paulo. There are 4 guys in Porto Alegre that I have known for a number of years that I usually see there and Mezziniu has been one of my favorite saunas since it’s opening in 2006. I met up with the soccer coach at the hotel, when we met 12 years ago he was a 19yr old working at Mezziniu but within a year got signed by a semipro team. He is one half of the famous cousins I previously have posted about. He spent the afternoon and then dropped me off at Mezziniu. It was slow on Friday with maybe 15 guys and 10 or so customers. But I met up with a blonde buff guy and a 22 yr old Venzuelan guy who is a friend of Victor who used to be the massuse at both Pointe and 117 in Rio previously. Victor gave a good recommendation and he was right! Saturday the soccer coach came over again and spent the afternoon. About 5:30 I went to Mezziniu and it was already very busy. Saturday nights are their big night! I met a hot 23year old and had a good time with him and then Victor came up to me and said he was getting off work at 9:00 and had a hot friend he knows I would like and could the three of us go to my apartment? I said sure, as I trust Victor's judgement, plus he really wanted to be fucked by this guy! at 9:30 they showed up and his friend was 23, lean, nice dick, great kisser, and we both fucked Victor! I went to bed about 1:00 am and had to be at the airport at 9:00 am for my flight to Rio! Sunday when i got to Rio I didn't go to the local saunas but went to one a hour away in Niteroi that is only gay one day a week! Met up with 2 sets of cousins there and had a great time. Monday I went to Lion's club and it was very busy. the place is huge and very nice! I met up with the 2 brothers from Niteroi and had a really lot of fun. Tuesday I went to 117 and they were packed like they are every Tuesday but 80% of the guys there were the same muscle guys I have seen there for the last 4 + years! I didn't do anyone, but talked to a lot of old friends. I then walked back to Lions Club which is a short 5 block walk from 117. John the former bartender from Manhatten rios was there and working as escort. I had been with john before at 3:00 am at a party last spring so I knew what to expect and it was as good as I remembered! Weds, my namorado was back in town so we lthe next 48 hours together and then on Friday I left for Sao Pauo! Friday night was packed at Lagoa! I was talking to Rudolfo, the owner who I had just been with at Lion's club the night before when I spotted a Vgl, 24 yr old black guy with the most handsome face I had seen in a long time! He appeared to be waiting for Rudolfo and I to finish our conversation to make his move and start talking. After a drink we decided to go to a room and he was amazing although he thought i was a bottom and i thought he was and it turned out we were both tops! He had a Big beautiful dick! He said “two tops can have fun”! He was right! later I went with another guy who was ok but i would not repeat. Then luckily i made the best decision of the whole trip! I decided i was really tired and instead of going to one of the clubs i went back to the house Alone!! The house has a front yard and gate and at 6:00 am I woke up to what i thought was someone calling out my name from outside! I went downstairs to the front door and looked out and there at the gate was my namorado from Rio! He decided to surprise me and got on the earlist flight! So we went back to bed until noon! Then we spent the next 3 days enjoying SP! Just 4 weeks before, we had been in Mexico for 2 weeks together, for the 3rd time in less then a year, and we were together 24/7 the whole time there and only had one argument! He may be the one, but i am going to take my time deciding! i am back in Brazil October 24th to November 4th

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I have not only seen a number of twinks there but i would estimate 15 - 20% of the sauna guys in Rio are from Minas Gerias the state that Belo Horizonte is in!

there is the 2 saunas in SP, Lagoa and Fragata, i have not been to Fragata in the last 5 or 6 years but then there were more twinks then you would find at Lagoa. there is a bar that has a darkroom, in Centro that has some twinks too. there are always some twinks at Lagoa just not a huge selection. Chances of finding them in some quantities is better at Mezziniu in Porto Alegre or at Olympus in Belo Horizonte

pointe202 and the new Lions Sauna will have twinks! usually a few at 117 but more at the first 2! Axiom: References to cost in other countries are meaningless IMHO and overpaying makes for ugliness towards Americans from locals! he is asking for facts not outdated opinions! and btw a lot of the guys on netgay can be found working in the saunas for 1/2 the price on netgay! I just looked quickly and found 6 i know from the saunas on there!

Got home last night from Merida, had a great 2 weeks! Numanzu1 was a easy, great guest! my brazilian namorado is still on his way back to Rio! He got stuck in CDMX airport for 24 hours because of missing a connecting flight!(his fault) Lots of availability on Grindr! and it is low season there! i am back to Rio in 2 weeks and then back to Merida probably the end of September!

Lagoa is scheduled to reopen December 1st in a new location not in the same neighborhood where it is now! but things change so just check prior to leaving for SP! Again look thru Airbnb listing in the price range and style you like. There are two individual homes i use in SP. both great neighborhoods one has 3bed/3baths the other 2, i found them in Airbnb 2 years ago...and no i i am not giving out the info on them! did that once in Rio a couple years ago and couldn’t get the place when i wanted it because someone on this site had already booked it! so you are on your own!

Lagoa will not be where it is now by the time you get there!" they are closing(lost there 20 yr. + Lease) December 1st. i think you will have more of a problem then you think bringing grindr hookups to high end Rio hotels...IMHO! that’s why over the years many of us long term Rio Travelers choose airbnb and prior to 2010 stayed at lower rated hotels.

i was told right now it appears Monday and Friday nights are going to be the best but i hear they are going to take a run at Wednesday nights(and Pointe202).

i was told the numbers for opening night were 124 working boys signed in and 247 customers and invited guests! From Twink to muscled! Anyone there for the grand opening?

Grindr is exploding down here this week! i have gotten over 40 messages in less then 30 minutes of which 8 -10 i would pursue! most guys are between 18 and 26 and a sprinkling in their 30’s!

not a problem!

No problem! we are never are lacking alcohol! looking forward to seeing you!