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Thank you Sihifu's spoon and vinapu, I am gonna go check out Arena today then. is this the one on the third floor of a plaza? Edition: Sorry for an unnecessary question.. I just did my homework and yes it is on the third floor of Silom plaza which is pretty close to Raya Surawong where I am staying at.

He looked quite cute. I wish i could have just simply chosen him as my masseur. Now you know why i was generous despite a frustrating outcome. The second mamasan was more of a bear type. Once he arrived, my plan got messed up.

So, after I had my daily share of XY flesh, my friend came to pick me up at my hotel around 11:30 pm tonight. then we took a cab to a jazz bar at the mandarin oriental hotel. but because of my shorts and sandals, we could not get in.. I personally don't like this kind of place, especially when I am on my vacation... but since my friend wanted to show me something "nice", I let him do it... from there we walked to that roof top bar (the tallest building in BKK), as I expected, a dress code is required. BTW, how do they manage looking good without any sweats in those dress pants, and shoes and … under this hot and humid weather?????? they don't seem to have any sweat glands on their skin..all looking great. from there, my friend didn't want to give up, but I insisted that we just go back to more relaxed places such as the ones in Silom. we took a cab back to Vesper where we had one drink each.. then we walked to Soi 4 and chose to sit at Balcony bar, which was my very first time.. I really enjoyed hanging out there.. more relaxed, nice crowd.. while I am on this kind of vacation, I just wanted to devote every single minute to this kind of environment and enjoy every single bit of it.. we had a few more drinks there and sat there until the waiters were ready to kick our butt out.

Though the outcome was frustrating, since he spent some time reviewing their menu with me and showing available boys to me, I decided to tip him 50 baht as a token to show my appreciation. so finally after all the wait, as expected, they said the boy is "so tired" for today. and they asked me to "come to the shop" again.

This afternoon, I went to Prince massage as per recommendations by some members here.. it was my third massage shop experience. the first one was my Hero and second Ganymede. for the record, I also had a few outcall massage sessions from other places too such as Dm Spa and Sanctuary spa.. I don't have much experience to compare, but I was impressed by the size of Prince massage .. the premise looked nice and clean.. it was about 3:30 pm when I got there, quite a few customers in the lobby, all being Asian.. I thought it is an exclusive man to man massage spa, but why i saw a couple female asian guests too??? A cute mamasan showed me their menu.. when I asked about the boy whose pictures were sent to me through their Line just a few minutes prior to my arrival, mamasan said he just went into the room with a customer for an hour session. he said I could wait, I would choose 90 minutes oil (1800 baht for a room with a private bathroom attached), and minimum tip for the mentioned course would be 1500 baht. so I decided to wait for the boy for the above course.. I went to use their restroom and when I came back to the lobby, a waiter served me a glass of thai ice tea (?). I was sitting in their lobby, and after a few minutes, a different mamasan who just arrived, came to me and asked me if I was waiting for someone. when I mentioned my agreed plan to him, he said "for 6 o'clock?". I replied, "no, once the boy comes out, now". he nodded his head, and left me alone.. A few minutes later, the first mamasan came back to me, and said there were some other customers waiting for the boy ahead of me. there you go again! maybe I didn't understand him accurately, but it was something like "no good for the boy. many customers waiting now". I showed him the messages just exchanged between their line account and mine while I was on my way on a grab, with the expectation for a better understanding of what just happened after that second mamasan arrived. he said something, but I gave up trying to get a reasonable explanation. so I tried to look for a plan B. there were a few other good looking muscular boys stand by behind the glass, but most of them were not interesting to me.. so i inquired mamasan about possibility of having the boy for an outcall session .. he said it would be 1000 baht to the shop and 2500 baht as a minimum tip to the boy. I agreed, he gave me his line account and he said he would ask the boy and get back to me.. I gave him a small tip and left the place. Let's wait and see if it would really happen. but I have been prepared enough, so there will be no frustration or surprise anymore.. now I think I understand what it meant by "this is Thailand".

Many thanks Londoner .. Pattaya! I still need to check it out.. perhaps on my next trip to Thailand, hopefully in a near future.

Thank you both. It seems there are still a lot for me to learn here. I must grow up and become stronger. I realize that while in Silom, I must act like a Silomian. @vinapu, what does BBB stand for?

I also should have come here a few weeks later.. they say it may start raining soon.. the rain could relieve some of BBK's unbearable heat. Enjoy the planning and preparation stage of your upcoming trip.. too bad that we will miss each other by a couple weeks.. you may see a lot of my finger prints, and foot steps at Lucky Boys.

For sure, everyone there seems to be working so hard that some of them may have crossed the lines.. some become aggressive.. i had been to Soi Twilight only once, it was last year, my very first and last time.. so i had not much to compare, but in my humble opinion, most gay clubs here seem to be working really well.. a lot of female customers, a lot of Asian tourists from neighboring countries.. while you're taking a few more minutes before you make your final decision, not because you had any reservation about the boy, but because you wanted to spend a few more minutes inside the bar, the boy could be gone with another group of customers.. hard to believe it's a low season.. I have only 3 days left here, but i still yet to try a few massage places and Drim's Mr Perfect guy from DB Paradiso.. i am thinking of going back to DB Paradiso either tonight or tomorrow night and ask to off him without entering the club so that i will not be on their live cast.

That's exactly how i felt last night. But to be fair, the moonlight mamasan who took care of the initial set up with babe boy, who arranged my meeting with mr Smart has gone on her vacation .. so last night, it was the other mamasan who carried over.. At LuckyBoys, mamasans and staff there recognized me too.. so could it be possible that when i mentioned about the boy to mamasan, she interrupted the group who was already sitting with the boy and brought him to me as a favor? she should not have done it though possibly (possibly) with a good intention to me.. but she did it... she did it to that group of customers and she did it to me too in a couple minutes. the bottom line is that's their marketing strategy... a very effective fomo marketing technique. as a result, within minutes, the boy has changed into his street clothes and on his way out with some customer (whoever it was), and the bar got an off fee.

Cinderella in FOMO .... A few days before the clock strikes midnight ... So, after we had a few drinks at Tep Bar in Chinatown (?) this evening, my friend and I headed back to Silom. He's a repat, and is living in Silom, but he said he's not been to many gay clubs.. I made him decide among options - Moonlight, Jupiter, Tawan, Lucky boys or Fresh boys, and he chose Lucky boys.. so it was my third time to be in Lucky boys within a few days. it was between 10 - 10:30, and the place was half full.. the boys were parading on the stage .. the show has not started yet.. One of the boys I have noticed on my 2 previous visits, who has been on my list to do, was already sitting with a group of Asian customers... when I inquired about him to mamasan, mamasan asked me if I wanted him.. I said "No, I don't want to have any issue with other customers." I continued to chat with my friend, watching boys parade on the stage. a few minutes later, mamasan brought the boy to our table, made him sit with us and got him a drink. everything happened within a few minutes.. it was still before 10:30, and the show has not started yet.. i chatted with the boy for a couple minutes, then mamasan showed up again and asked me if i wanted the boy, otherwise, she would take him away since there was someone else waiting for him.. i asked mamasan how it could happen, the boy has not even started his drink yet.. i just started talking to him, and i told mamsan i didn't like being pressured.. the other mamasan came to our table, and said i could take a couple more minutes.. that was the end! I paid the bill, and we left immediately. but i made sure to let them know that it was a bad practice! then we headed to moonlight since my friend has never been there either.. we got to moonlight approximately 10:40, the show seemed to have just started. it was a Thursday night and the place was completely full.. i saw many female customers there.. since i had mentioned my interest in Charlee and intention to off him to mamasan before, mamasan brought Charlee to our table... i got Charlee a drink, and we continued to watch the show.. it was very nice to see both of my model boys again, together on the stage … mamasan came back to our table in about 10 minutes and asked me about my decision towards Charlee. (So, here is my question to my seniors -- How many minutes should we have before making a final decision, 2 minutes? 10 minutes? I am asking this question only now because i have not had many boys come sit with me before.. i used to sit myself (sometimes with a mamasan lingering around/harrassing me).. after i made a choice, i would mention the boy's number to mamasan, who would ask the boy to change and have the boy wait for me outside the club or at the door. .. so today, i was quite surprised by how mamasans could be pushy.. i found it quite obnoxious.. Anyways, i took Charlee back to my hotel.. my friend walked back home.. Charlee looked somewhat different from the pictures i received from one forum member here.. not necessarily in a negative way.. in person, Charlee is more of a twink type (which I like) .. he was good in bed too. off fee of 500 baht, boy's drink 450, agreed tip was 2000 and i gave him an extra 500.

I was re-reading what i just wrote.. all of the sudden, why i became so hopelessly emotional???? No, no. it has nothing to do with the cute twink i met from Lucky boys the other night or babe boy last night..

It was meant to be more than just our work life back home.. everything from our professional, to social, familial and societal role.. Here i am just another gay tourist.. like Cinderella being in the party just before the midnight...just before all the illusions are gone.. willing to spend $$ on the boys we like, as an exchange boys give us temporary pleasures and illusions. thank you for your comment... i am learning a lot from all of you here. one of the senior members here PM me .. he might not have intended it, but what he said in his message was a good reminder to me not to take any illusions back home.. what happens in Silom must stay in Silom.

I always complain of the hot and humid weather coming to this side of the world... always complain of my progressively getting worse jet lag.. but the reality is I love it so much that I wish I could settle down here.. until then, I will need to go back where I came from.. where the reality is.. The biggest pleasure of BKK trips is in its preparation stage.. looking for tickets, searching hotels, contacting your mamasans, regulars (if any), collecting small gifts etc. once i set my feet on this land of smiles, i already started counting days.. now i have only 4 days left before the reality, and panicking stage already started.

usual off fee for a model of 1000 baht. tip to the model of 5000 baht. and a small tip to mamasan.. having mamasan waiting for me outside the club even saved me club admission fee of 450.

Nah, I prefer to have graduated with summa CUM laude.. not knowing any Latin, I am not sure about the first and third words, but know very well of the second one.

Imagination knows the infinite. Is that what they say? Thank you so much. I have only 4 days left before the reality. The midnight is approaching and Cinderella already started panicking.

Thank you so much for your understanding. Indeed there was not much to reveal but i guess i dont want to be a spoiler so decided to leave his admirers in the world of their own imagination and fantasy.

He is still in the experimental stage, but i am very optimistic that, with some more trial and errors, he will soon become more available.

As arranged since last week, I went to pick up my babe boy around 11:30 at moonlight.. Mamasan was waiting for me outside the club (she called me while I was in the hotel elevator to make sure I was on my way).. she waved at me when she saw me walking into the lane .. I didn't have to enter the club, she said babe boy was ready.. while we were talking, he came out and greeted to me.. my heart was pounding fast and I could feel it as if it was up in my throat.. then he went inside again to collect his stuff.. I felt a bit awkward since two or three doormen were looking at us.. after a couple minutes, he came out again, with a backpack, and all set to go .. I gave the off fee (model off fee) plus tip to Mamasan .. he also was giving them (mamasan and doormen) tips.. I was so thrilled with joy that I was even ready to make the same mistake which I did with Nicky last year.. this time, it was not him, but myself who offered him if he wanted to go eat anything, like japanese .. but he said he just had "a buffet" and was full.. so we just crossed the road and went to my hotel right away.. after we got to my hotel, I showed him my collection of his pictures and video clips on pornhub and other porn sites.. we spent a few minutes warming up, watching his own video clips and chatting about his family and his girl friend.. he let me know his limits .. (but in reality he became more relaxed at the end, broke some of his rules for me).. as a self claimed straight guy, he didn't do much (yet).. in addition, he is a very shy boy, the most uptight among 3 models I have met from moonlight.. but he is the one with the most potential (after nicky) .. He stayed with me for about 2 hours .. I asked him if he could stay overnight.. he said he has never stayed overnight with customers.. we hugged again and I noticed that he still had the hardon... he said he jerks off every morning … I paid his tip to him, kissed on his cheek, hugged his small, yet completely muscular body again.. he said "forget me" walking out of my room.. I said "I will come find you tomorrow again." we laughed together.. and he left. Overall, it was a very satisfying experience to me .. he was quite shy (which I don't mind), but became more accommodating towards the end.. good enough to quench my curiosity. if someone asks me if I am willing to spend that much baht again for any model from moonlight, I would say yes and it will be for him.

All the credit goes to my mentors here from this forum including yourself. How i wish you were here this time too! It is hard to believe that it is considered a low season. Most bars, old or newer ones alike, seem to be doing very well. No signs of the sky falling anytime soon. Or this is at least my wishful thinking since it is only my second visit and am looking forward to many more to come.

After being busy with Mr. Model from moonlight on Saturday night, I went to Fresh Boys 2 on Sunday night.. Then to Lucky boys on Monday and Tuesday, two nights in a row.. I was thinking of writing a more descriptive review on Lucky Boys, but the site seemed to be down, so I was not able to blog on Monday --> Tuesday.. I just wrote a quick review on it on a different thread. Being a big fan of twinks with toned bodies, Lucky Boys kept me busy for the last two nights. I strongly recommend #60 of Lucky Boys if you are into small twinks with baby face and toned body.... I need to take it easy today since a much waited appointment with another Mr. Model is coming up tonight. I will keep you all posted... On a different note, BKK heat is not compatible with life... so I don't have plan to fix my circadian rhythm.. sleeping in in the afternoons and up all night long.

my lips, tongue, with its taste buds on it and teeth when appropriate, are all working very well.. eyes and my vision? I am not quite sure.. sometimes, the room is too smoky to see, on top of my messed up bio clock.

Lucky Boys... I went there twice, last night and tonight again. that place is big, with a nice lounge feeling.. entry fee 350 baht is way worthier than 500 baht of Jupiter if I may compare an orange to an apple. since it is a new place, everyone is working hard to make you feel well taken care of.. Last night, I felt sorry passing over those hunky men hanging out at the entrance of DB Paradiso, and going up the stairs to the second floor next door instead where the Lucky boys is. I was greeted by a ladyboy mamasan and led to a table all the way up in the back, directly facing toward the stage. the stage is quite big too... it was a Monday night, but the place was surprisingly busy.. the show was supposed to start at 10:30, but it kicked off 10 minutes late.. it was a mix of various acts - ladyboys' lip syncing, big co*k shows and some softcore sexual acts .. there's something for everyone.. and yes, there are a lot of boys, mostly twinks.. kind of similar to Fresh Boys crowd.. The off fee is 400 baht.. Mamasan told me that they had a special show and a birthday party tonight. So, I went back there again tonight.... I got there around 10:20, but the place was already packed.. the room was overflowing, some guests were standing.. they kept a table for me, and it was nice of them... the show started sharply at 10:30 tonight.. after the usual show, they had a small birthday party celebration for that ladyboy mamasan.. then followed by a "Miss universe model" show, which was quite lengthy and boring to me.. so I left in the middle of the model show.. again there were many boys.. most of them were already off by customers some of whom were ladyboys themselves. though the room is big, since it was completely packed, the cigarette smoke was quite tough to survive for non smokers.. the customers tonight included many women, ladyboys, straight couples, anything in between and some of whom I was not quite sure .. there were not baht garlands, but many generous customers handing out 100 and 1000 baht notes to performers (big co*k boys and ladyboys alike)…

Indeed I agree with you. my previous post was meant to impress the new comers to this forum In reality having no plan is my plan here in BKK. I left my planner brain back home (if I ever owned one). .. my circadian rhythm has been very off here... nothing above my neck is functioning properly.. well maybe except my mouth.