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I feel the need for more information! How does one become the recipient of a sexy dance and does it involve garlands? :P

Le Meridien to new Dreamboy. Less than 200m. @BenG1000

Closer than twilight was actually. Dream boys is moving near screw boys and fresh which is pretty close. It’s sad you won’t get to see Twilight at least once though. It was only pure luck and a few months difference that allowed me to see it before it went.

I visited briefly in January. Wasn’t impressed by what I saw. Guys looked a bit rough and there were no customers inside. Overall, not somewhere I’d put high on my priority list.

I visited midweek in January. Found lots of twinky guys as you say, some definitely in need of a sandwich, but nowhere near as busy or as smoky as you describe. The one guy I chatted with gave very uninterested vibes so I left after that. I didn’t much like the mamasan either who was alternately too pushy or too hard to find. I also found it busy at first but then when I looked closer I realized that most of the other people weren’t customers, just off duty guys and their friends. Despite a not great first impression, I am interested in visiting again though as things change so much from night to night.

A Euro pornstar that I had seen online was passing through town recently. Wanted $500/hr which is about double what you’d normally see guys from RM charging. Can’t imagine he gets a lot of work but at that price I guess he doesn’t need a lot.

Good to know. I had a look on Line, some very cute guys. Is this a full service sort of place?

This is the sort of relevant info I wish I’d had in January! Fortunately hotel staff helped me out with the taxi change on arrival but I was a bit embarrassed. On the subject of fast track, I arrived with Emirates not Thai. Fast track card was handed out on the plane and there were airport staff and signs to direct me once in the terminal. It was fairly straight forward and not at all confusing. Except for the entrance visa signs which worried me because I thought I’d missed something but I didn’t need one.

Artemis is definitely an odd choice. Surely Aphrodite would make more sense? Having watched the recent videos, Babe is still my favourite but I’m very keen to see lucky in the flesh too. I’d be very interested in any further gossip people manage to hear about him lol

Who’s the guy with the tattoo on his chest to the left of Tam and does he dance?

But Babe’s cheeky ‘yes I know how dumb this looks’ smiles we’re all that made that routine watchable!

Brazil sounds amazing but it’s a very long flight and based on a couple of searches, likely to have a lot of stops. I’ll get there one day though.

Everything is worth what it’s purchaser will pay for it, a wise man once said. I see the point about their business model not suiting some kinds of customer but I think it’s a fallacy to say their service isn’t worth the price. If they can sustain that fee and stay popular then perhaps it’s our perception and not theirs that needs adjusting? Alternatively, we can vote with our wallets and patronize a bar whose prices we find satisfactory. If enough people do then they will shift their business model or close. Until then, the bars will charge as much as the market can bear I was happy to pay their fee as a newbie for whom everything was new and exciting but can certainly see why Jupiter would feel exorbitant to a veteran or long time visitor. I suspect that short staying foreigners who won’t be visiting multiple bars or staying for long periods of time are more their target audience these days based on what I’ve read here and elsewhere. It sucks for us but at least it means the bar stays open and a unique business stays viable.

My thinking is much the same. If I’m only going to be there for 4 nights then it’s not such an expense and I’d rather be comfortable and have good service. I chose the Raya for my first stay because the rooms looked huge and it was right in the thick of things. Despite a couple of niggles with the hotel, I didn’t regret the choice. Staff were great and I felt comfortable which was important for my first time in the country. Somewhere with easy access to Sala denang BTS is another tick box I’d suggest for Beng1000 as it’s easy to use and cheap, possibly less hassle even than Grab or taxis.

Hank gives good advice. Tbh I thought the floor guys were better looking than most of the models. You can read the long version of my trip at the link below but in short, yes I went alone. Yes they will know you’re a newbie, no getting around that, but you know the bar format if you’ve been reading people’s reports so you’ll be ok. Be polite but blunt is my best advice for dealing with staff. I didn’t have any issues, they seemed to know immediately I was new and politely pointed out how check bins work and other things without prompting. I liked the mamasans at Dreamboys and Moonlight because they were the least pushy in my experience. They also, along with Jupiter, had the most customers which made the whole thing less intimidating as I could blend with the crowd. So if you’re a bit nervous you may want to try those first rather than Twilight bars which will have a lot of grabby barkers who try to steer you to their bar.

As a recent newbie myself I’d encourage a Moonlight visit. The guys you see on their sites are the models who you most likely won’t be offing anyway. They also have a regular rotation who come out before and after the shows and there are plenty of twinks. Screwboys definitely had the largest selection of twinks though that I saw and at least on the day I visited, better looking than Classic’s guys. Just don’t believe the barker when he says a show is starting in 20min. Le Meridien is also on my shortlist for next time. The Raya was perfectly located but they may still have upgrade construction happening so I’d avoid it for now.

That’s probably a few more than I’d like! I think I’ll try to avoid that option then and go for a date either in the mid year or around mid Jan again.

I’ve only been the once but Moonlight was the most memorable for me and the air of professionalism made me much more comfortable as a newbie. Plus I’d say there’s a lot of people who are happy to stare at Babe and Co with no concern for offing and if they do want an off, the floor boys are as good or better than anywhere else I saw. Other bars couple replicate their success with better shows and a social media presence.

Thanks Hank, that answers my concerns perfectly. I’d already decided to try for a weekend but it’s good to know things pick up a bit. I found a huge difference between the Monday and the Thursday of my last trip and was hoping that would be the case. I’m also hoping shows will be more regular as places like screw boys didn’t seem to bother putting them on, not that it stopped them claiming there’s be one soon.

My money’s on 24 as the identity of baby twink.

Oh I’d already read your report, but hadn’t taken a lot of note of the dates. I don’t mind a bit of competition as long as it’s not like a plague of locusts and there’s nothing left and no seat left in the bar. Jupiter during my visit was one of my favs because the mamasan was busy and didn’t try to bother me very much.

The hordes do sound a bit irritating but I also hate being the only one in the bar which happened a couple of times in my visit in mid Jan, though I was there for the midweek rather than the weekend so that may have influenced things too. I think I’d like to try Pattaya but I’ll likely only be there for 4 nights on the end of some other travel so I’m not sure if the extra travel down there is worth it. I do also like that Bkk is so central so I can pick a hotel in the middle and walk everywhere easily.

No one’s mentioned specific cities yet? Wondering whether Rio is where people have generally been or if other cities are better for meeting guys.

Currently looking at possibilities for travel this year and options are either mid July or Dec/Jan. Wondering what Bangkok/Pattaya (haven’t decided which) are like in July (this is low season?) and in Dec around Xmas and New Years. My only experience so far has been in mid Jan. Thanks in advance :)

Good luck and have fun! Every time I raise the subject of going back this year my bank account cries and runs away It was definitely something I struggled with being a fairly reserved person. It was very confronting to have such blatant hopeful attention focused on me like that.