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Yeah, I suppose we are talking on average. I suppose in that trade there can be good and less good days. Sorry, but I made a mistake about the rates I mentioned y-day. I just read our recent chat again; it is AUD 150-200 per session

As I recall the results from the study you refer to, the 3 persons all stopped taking PrEP during the test period. None of the persons taking PrEP as prescribed got infected by HIV. The conclusion from the various tests/studies is that PrEP is very effective protection against HIV regardless of which of the 4 dosing methods used - but only if you remember to take the pill. It will not protect against other STI

I follow that strategy - start taking the daily pill 5-7 days before traveling and keep taking daily pills for some days after getting back. I have also used the "on-demand" dosing some times. And before you ask: in general with condom but without happens occasionally if we are both on PrEP.

The guy reported back that he would earn 100-150 AUD per session. 2 customers a day.

Sorry it came out contradicting. Yes, if I know I will be in need to accommodation, when walking the streets of HCMC I will look out for hotels that appeal to me (sometimes I will even walk in and have a look at the lobby/reception) but I don't bother to ask at the reception for rates - I just check rates online (usually Agoda for VN) and book. The likelihood that I could have gotten a better rate by walking in and booking a room at the reception is small.

It is very likely that you will be asked to go find an ATM and come back with cash. As stated above cash is king in Thailand and anyone trying to pay an off-fee by credit card will cause some suspicion I guess. As already advised above: bring cash (GBP) and change as you go. There are currency exchange booths everywhere but if you want the best rates, find the Super Rich or Superrich Thailand branch offices (both have really competitive rates). When you go there, bring your passport! (at least that was required in the past at the Superrich Thailand offices, but it may have changed now).

A younger and less muscular Mr Nakkii? https://www.xnxx.com/video-offppc9/hot_asian_male

Thanks, I should have thought about rentmen and Hunqz. My only concern is if the asking prices in rentment, huntz reflect actual price levels? It is my experience that the asking rates of rentmen, hungz etc gúys are heavily inflated and often the guys will settle for far less. Obviously, this doesn't apply to rentmen guys only (e.g. in Vietnam, this guy and many other guys on the apps will ask for USD 100 from foreigners but settle for around 50% or less). However, I have also come across some guys telling me that they have sufficient customers and are not prepared to budge - recent experience was Cape Town where many blk online guys refused to budge. Admittedly, without any knowledge about price levels in Sydney, asking for AUS 200 for fun seem a bit steep?

From a friend in HCMC who works as a MB on the apps (with frequent trips to Hongkong, SG, Malaysia etc) I got a rather difficult Q yesterday. The guy announced that he will make a trip to Sydney next month and upon my question confirmed that he will try to make some money as MB there (freelance/on the apps). Most likely he will be there for a couple of weeks (based on his earlier travel patterns). He question to me was - how much to charge for "services" in Sydney? (I believe he meant short time - either in his hotel room or outcall). As I have absolutely no experience with MB rates in Australia I need to pass on the Q in there: anyone able to shed some lights on this? For your information I estimate him to be around 26-28y (admittedly I never asked him about age) with a firm muscle body. In particular his chest muscles stand out but he is not shredded/sixpack - anything else than a twink. He is gay but straight acting/amanly and top only with a nice large c*ck (certainly bigger than the average asian size). I wouldn't call him handsome (but not unattractive either). Height: around 175cm.

I have tried the same on earlier visits to HCMC but my experience was - with only 1 exception that the "walk in" rates were higher than the rates available on Agoda. So I have given up on that/don't want to waste time chasing a possible but small discount by asking for rates directly from the hotel reception.

From his IG profile it appears that Mr Nakkii is in the navy

In general male visitors to your room is not a problem in hotels in Vietnam (unless at late evening/at night). Local guys may be required to leave their ID at the reception (in particular if the purpose of the visit to the room is quite clear) and once the guy picks up his ID the reception may call you in the room to hear if you are OK. SGN hotels: There are plenty of good mid level hotels in HCMC, e.g. on Ly Tu Trong street near Ben Thanh market. The Silverland hotels are recommended and reasonably priced. Plenty a cheaper but still good hotels around in that area - I suggest to look around once you get there. My recent experience is that last minute rates are cheaper than if you book long time in advance and that weekend rates are higher than weekday rates. Gay bar: Try Thi bar or Republic Club on Durong de Tham near the famous Bui Vien street (both are gay venues very busy on Friday/Saturday nights). I can't help you with sauna/massage venues. You will find plenty of massage guys or MB in the apps - if the massage part is important to you make sure to make that very clear - most "massage guys" coming to your room will engage directly in the fun part of the deal skipping the massage part - despite their marketing online the reality is that most are MB rather than massage guys.

I was in Dalat earlier this month. A charming destination for a few days - somewhat cooler than the soaring heat in Nha Trang and HCMC, what a relief! There are plenty of fine very good value hotels there. The several Tulip chain hotels seem like a good deal. The Iris hotel is more expensive but also a more posh (the entrance/lobby - the rooms are quite basic though). I used Agoda exclusively to book hotels there. In general the price level is lower in than HCMC, Hanoi etc. I had a perfect hair cut for 60,000 Dong! As for boys, the apps (Grindr, Blued and Hornet) were quite busy. Plenty of interest from what appeared to be next-door VN boys but I can imagine that if you are a mature "daddy" with a body everything else than fit there may be less takers in Dalat compared to what you are used to in Thailand (this applies in Vietnam in general) Some guys have limited English skills though and may be too shy to connect with a foreigner. Some massage/MB guys online - very reasonable rates offered once you interact with the boys. Maybe it goes without saying but often their initial quotes are very much negotiable. In HCMC expect to pay around 1,000,000 Dong for hot gym fit/muscle guys - in Dalat around half to 2/3 of that (admittedly, I didn't take any offers in Dalat). If you are offered rates very much lower than this there is a high risk that the boy will turn out to be much less fit or attractive than seen from his profile pic and the hot pics he sent to you when chatting online, so watch out! Nha Trang: Nice city with great beaches and night life (I didn't find any gay bars though) but everything geared towards Russian and Chinese tourists - they are everywhere and most signs etc are in Russian! I was approached several times in Russian language (by other tourists or street vendors) because apparently the assumption is that all foreigners (western) speak Russian. I doubt I will return to Nha Trang and fail to see that Thai tourists will find Nha Trang attractive as a tourist destination even with direct flights - it's marketed towards completely different tourist types (Chinese and Russian). I didn't look for any M2M massage venues so can't comment on that.

Indeed this guy caught my attention too at the Grand Opening show. Very manly and handsome guy So his name is Mr Koon...I will try to remember.

The guy in center front (I don't know this name - it may be Sin, but I wouldn't be able to tell) was at the Grand Opening show on 7 April. I noticed him several times on stage (I can't recall his number). His body (mind you, he is a short guy) and the confident attitude and way of moving appealed to me - however, his face didn't.

Totally correct. Pictures with Nakki and customers were taken outside afterward and I think I saw him and Mr Rome went off without being accompanied by customers (i.e. I dont think they were offed).

Thank you. These observations more or less mirror mine from the Grand Opening night. It was my first time in Moonlight but I have been following this thread since last year so I believe I'm fairly updated even without being a regular. I will just add some comments to above and add my own observations. Indeed, the Mr Babe is a great dancer and a good performer. Such a joy to watch him dancing/performing om stage. He had some issues with the towel during the towel show (2 other models were also in the show but I forgot who) but I believe he managed to keep everything covered - but a great and enticing towel performance. In my view he is only superseded by Mr Sunny in dancing. Sunny did a fantastic solo show to Ricky Martin's "She Bangs" - clearly he is the best dancer of the models. My farang friend found Sunny to be the overall most attractive guy on stage - I don't share that view but Sunny is certainly a very skilled dancer and top performer on stage. To me, Mr Nakki was the star of the night. A very tall guy with an amazing body. There was something about his smile, attitude and confidence on stage that caught me. I don't know how to express it but on stage he appeared "to own everything"; appearing with such grace/confidence and very well aware of his body and looks; the true star of the night. But I share the view that his stage performance was nothing to report about. Together with Mr Rome, he appeared as an Egyptian God (sorry, but I might have got that wrong, but indeed they wore big togs) - a loud cheer of admiration came from the audience when Nakki appeared on stage during this part of the show - and they wore briefs during the subsequent owners' speech and toast (I failed to understand who the 3 persons invited to get on stage were; obviously, they were speaking in thai). Mr Rome on the other hand was far from being spectacular. Tall and handsome face (at least to some I believe) but body wise he was nothing to report about. Another guy who in my view was not on par when performing on stage was Nicky. Sorry to tell you, but with hardly any face expression on stage and red eyes that revealed that either he was high or had a hangover, he should have stayed home! - he only appeared 1 time as a "bunny guy" in the early part of the show as I recall it, but clearly he didn't feel comfortable performing on stage. I don't understand all the rave about him in this forum; sorry. Also the guy in the shower show wouldn't have worked for me - his body is far too big in my opinion (but admittedly had what appeared to be a nice hard rock in the almost transparent wet briefs) - sorry, but I don't know his name but I believe he is one of the guys that joined Moonlight recently. The shows were indeed very well choreographed and must have involved a lot of rehearsals for the guys. The Moonlight models did very well; I didn't notice any major mistakes. By far the best show of this kind I have ever seen; I'm sorry, but the Jupiter 2018 show fades when making the comparison. I share the somewhat negative comments about the long waiting time before the show actually started. The non-model guys appeared on stage fully dressed (white T-shirt and shorts with their tag numbers on) in what was certainly not a well rehearsed audition (some of the guys were clearly bored) and didn't know how to move on stage - only the enthusiastic number 29 (he also appeared in the later "big cock" show) was entertaining to watch. It was followed by a rather dull performance (singing) by the overweight thai girl who had clearly also been assigned the task to translate into English what was said/explained in Thai on stage (but struggled to do so). However, the major annoyance for me was the way too loud music/sound effects during the show - I regret I didn't wear earplugs. It was far too loud and the following day it was still "ringing" in my ears - the venue should do something about this! And finally, to the speculative comments above about who offed Mr Babe after the show, I'm able to reveal that a farang apparently took him to a dance venue. My farang friend believe he heard that Dj Station was mentioned during the negotiations between the farang customer and the older captain (the one with a face that could easily have earned him a cast in a US gangster movie). We were waiting outside after the show had finished closely to midnight due to heavy rain and from a distance noticed the talks between the farang and the captain clearly speaking on behalf of Mr Babe standing next to him, but unable to hear anything in details. But it appeared to me that the farang wanted more than just taking Mr Babe dancing/drinking and the captain mentioned the name of Nicky a few times, which I interpreted as Mr Babe not being available for fun in the room of the customer but Nicky being the choice if the customer wanted this. But at the end, Babe took off with the farang. Final comment and totally off topic, but Mr Babe is a really short guy...when appearing in full clothes I'm not sure I still have the desire to off him.

OK. That makes more sense.

@ 8k for a night, no wonder the boy offerred a repeat of 2-3 days - that would make almost 2x monthly salary for average Thai blue collar worker.

Anything beyond refund of the off fee will most likely just get you a stare (aka I don't know what you are talking about) and if understood then "I'm sorry, Sir but we can't do that. Sorry". The concept of compensation for wasted time and inconvenience/annoyance does not exist in Thailand (or in fact most countries beyond the US).

Whilst certainly possible that Mr Babe is on vacation on his own or with his GF, it is much more likely that he is traveling with a sponsor/customer. I don't want to sound rude, but Silom guys taking the initiative to and organising on their own a trip like to Japan with the activities/sights seen in Mr Babe's IG pics, is hardly likely.

Well, I wouldn't get my expectations too high from a stroll in Lumpini Park. There is a small outdoor gym but sort of fenced off (you pay a small fee to use the gym) and it will be difficult to get in touch with the guys. Whilst some guys may be gay and looking for more than just the exercise, my impression is that the majority of guys there are straight and are there to work out; not to hook up with a farang. But Lumpini Park is a very nice place and a lot of things to be seen there, so I recommend that you try it out - but a man-to-man session with a muscle guy is unlikely there. You will be able to sit on bench outside the gym and admire the guys from a distance. The outdoor gym may be a bit difficult to find as the park is huge (I always have to walk a bit back and forth to find it). Admittedly, I have never entered the gym area to get closer to guys there - I would feel somewhat intimidated to work out there among the thai muscle guys there, let alone to enter with the only purpose to glance at the guys working out. I'm not sure how well a "spectator only" will be welcome inside the gym area but give it a try and report back.

You mean the thai guys performing on stage and interacting/drinking with guests between shows? I know a thai guy who has been a "model" at Zag Club for some time (currently he is not). He will label himself "model" rather than coyote dancer or even worse go-go boy (they are not go-go boys). They get paid to appear on stage and perform shows - first show will be fully dressed (often jeans and boots) or shirtless - second show will be in speedos or other sexy outfit. During the shows they will accept tips or quick drink shots from the audience and between shows they will mingle with guests on the floor, join their tables to drink and chat with guests (you are of course required to buy drinks for them or to "open bottle" with them). Some will be gay - some are obviously straight guys. Most have fit/lean/gym bodies of course. So you could label the guys "hot and friendly hosts or entertainers" encouraging you to spent money in the bar/club. It is the same concept that you find in other Thai gay clubs like Fake or RCA in BKK I'm not sure the models can be "offed" but I guess if they like you and you make a generous offer exceptions can be made - after all this is Thailand...

? Surely you paid for his "services" in the room - or do you mean that he threw in a HJ or even more for free/without any additional payment to his massage fee?