Boy69

In principal I agree with your attitude but regarding the OP's case the boy was really not in the mood of playing as bottom so why bother and triple the amount if the boy didn't want to be bottom ?The OP admitted that it was painful for the boy so I don't see how can it be enjoyable experience for both sides.

Once you pay high amount to the boy he will not accept lower than that in the future moreover boys tend to gossip and the rumors that you are paying well will be spread so the other boys will demand more from you than the normal rate, it's not a smart move to throw away large amounts on bar boys it's better to steak to the normal rate.the exception are the 'star' boys that have big demand and will charge more so you have no choice but to pay higher rate if you want them.

Great report Namzu as usual! I am glade that all your suspicious about the boy and the "mistakes" you made were wrong and the boy turned to be lovely and fun to be with.

You pay 1600 Baht for the bar and with the boy time around 2000 total of 3600 Baht only for ST at this cost I can take gorgeous boys at my country, this is why I find Thailand less attractive as Gay destination. In the past there were plenty of attractive boys,the prices were cheap and there were lots of bars and gay avenues to choose from this golden era was gone years ago and what is left are happy memories from Thailand.

Nowadays I find the bars convinient for entertainment: enjoy the shows,take a few drinks and chat with the boys but for sex the apps is the best option for me because boys are available 24/7 and I don't have to pay for boy's drinks and off fees,In principal I didn't mind to pay this if I found the boy I like but unfortunately at recent years the prices at the bars become outrageous .

I wish that we have something similar to Nana Plaza but I doubt the authorities will allow it ,legal restrictions and the current conservative junta agenda will not make it easy. It seens I wil continue to stick to Pattay and Phuket as did on my last trips to the LOS.

Gay complex like Nana Plaza is a great idea ! it's very convinient to find many gay venues under one roof.

I will be very happy if this bars will relocate to Pattaya it will revive the gay scene in Pattaya and it will be a good alternative to BBB at Boyz Town .

Songkran in Thailand ? Avoid!!!

I am not sad at all becuse I remembered what Soi Twilight used to be years ago in its glory days:professional shows,many attractive boys eager to please and reasonable prices.at the last years I visited there the quality of the shows declined radically , Most of the boys are not attractive as used to be and the prices are outrageous. Pattaya and Phuket are much better options for me now where I can combine more relaxed vacation with beaches nearby and reasonably prices for boys and bars.

Yes I do agree that Bangkok is safe and vibrant,maybe it was me that change once I got older I am looking for more relaxed places to enjoyed my vacations and better with beaches this why I prefer now to stay at Pattaya and Phuket and to avoid BKK.

The glory days of soi Twilight were gone long time ago ,maybe moving of some of the gay venues there to other location nearby will improve the gay scene in Silom-Suriwong.

Sorry apps...

Bangkok is a horrible experience for me : the traffic, pollution and high living costs are forcing me to avoid this place if I can .in my last trips I took a taxi straight from Pattaya to Suvarnabumi airport to return back home and avoid BKK completely.

It's very easy to get by at Thailand in Bangkok the main zone is in Soi Twilight/Patpong. In Pattya the main 3 zones are Boyz Town,Sunee Plaza abd Jomtien complex. It's very easy to find what you are looking for threre.Before 'Jumping' on money boys try the spps,discos and clubs as advised most likely you'll find there many potential partners for free.

Because you are so young you won't have any difficulties to find partners through the apps, clubs,discos or just strolling around the gay zones. most probably you will not have to pay for sex ...

It seems the gay scene is fading in Pattaya I remember the early 2000's when there was 4 main vibrant gay zones : Jomtien, Day night,Sunee and Boyz Town all pack with many attractive boys eager to please all was so cheap and fun now Day night long disappeared, Sunee is dying ,Boyz Town is still fun but not many clients as used to be . very sad.

Very bad news it seems that the authorities want to shut down the gay scene in Sunee plaza eventually.

For go go bars you can go to Sunee Plaza or BoyzTown,Jomtien complex is a host bars area and there is nothing wrong with that.

Boys on Grindr pop up and disappear you can't really establish serious relationship there, If you really were important import for "Lay" he would find the way to make a contact with you.Move on life is short don't waste your time.

I think the authorities doesn't willing to give licenses to go go bars in this area.

I totally disagree to this point of view. It's a religious hypocrite and remorse perception that have nothing to do with the reality, the simple true is that there are boys that are willing to sell their ass for money and there are clients are willing to buy this service.simple as that.To your point of view we the falangs are mean persons that are taking advantage of poor Isan boys ...this is far from being the true I can tell you many stories of clients that fell in love with this boys who ended up with huge lost of money.

Couldn't agree more we have to remember that the average salary in Thailand is about 10,000 Baht a month and if we pay the boy 1000 to 1500 Baht he is earning at a very short time what regular Thai worker can earn on 3 to 5 full working days so there isn't a reason why the boy wouldn't be happy with this fee that's however what I am paying usually and most of the boys are satisfied, so I don't see any logic to throw away extrovagent amounts to boys whom demanded and received by some of the forum members here.If a boy demands more than what I am willing to pay I just refuse politely and move to other boys, there are plenty fish in the sea ...

I don't do it! tried once the maseur boy was OK but the whole situation was awkward for me. plenty of boys at the apps some of them will do massage as well and all of it at my own hotel room for 1000 to 1500 Baht and sometimes stay overnight what can be better than that ?Of course this is not the ideal solution some of the boys don't bother to show up , arrive late or not exactly my type but most of the times it was fine.