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For me the best options is Furama Silom and Le Siam mainly because you have straight access to the elevator and you can bypass the reception. Furama Silom have specious rooms and lovely rooftop pool and Le Siam has unbeatable location behind Silom mall and footsteps from Sala Deng BTS.

I am not telling it's impossible but most of us will not do it. Relocate to Thailand is not practical for everyone.

You mentioned two important reasons why almost all Falang-Thai relationships failed and even if initially all is fine eventually collapse. First,most of us can't or don't want to relocate to Thailand it's not easy to leave everything behind you and start a new life in another country the same for the Thai boy it's extremely difficult to adapt himself to a completely different culture, food, language and climate even if at the beginning they seems very enthusiastic to live in a new country once they come their dreams shutter to pieces they feel lonely, can't adopt themselves to the food , people, climate and culture and desperate going back to their homeland. so yes it's not practical for most potential couple to become in full time relationship. Second, the Thai culture put commitment to family and society in top priority, Every Thai individual will put family and close friends on first priority even if it will badly harm his own interests, this is why even if falang find a very nice local boy who genuinely loves him and want to be with his family and friends might see his falang boyfriend as potential ATM whom can be used to upgrade their lifestyle and will put hard pressure on to the boy to extract money as much as he can while the relationship are good and ' don't let the cunning falang to use you and eventually throw away and leave you with nothing' the boy is put on a lot of pressure and then troubles start shaking things till the falang is frustrated and telling the boy enough is enough no more money for his family and the relationship is over.

Wasn't the boy one of the 5 gay can be fuck and if so why was he so nervous in your room ?

I don't think it's a relevant comparison because the bars OP mentioned drinks cost includes a show.

East Suites is a very small guesthouse with luxurious rooms and friendly staff at the reception they really don't care who you bring with you and no questions ask it's the same advantage as discreet entrance.

I didn't stayed in Zing but did use their pool which is quiet good and eat there breakfasts buffet not bad at all.

Yes I agree it's not a scam they are money boys and their job is trying to earn money from their clients and there is nothing wrong with it what we choose to give them or not is our decision, we don't have to forget that they are giving us pleasure and company while we're in Thailand and if they wouldn't exist I doubt most of us repeat coming again and again to the land of smiles.

Yes I agree it's more convenient for this boy to do nothing and receiving monthly allowance, As I mentioned before on other posts some years ago after I did long term with a boy from Patong I sent him 10K BHT for starting new life at his mom home because he claimed he didn't like the bars scene but actually what he planned to do is just living with his mom , do nothing and receiving 10k every month, I sent him one time and cut the connection with him.

I guess most boys have serious personal problems which caused them to work as money boys and it's not really a dream come true to work in the sex industry (although I met many boys that are very lazy whom can't work at regular jobs so it's convenient for them ) many of them come from poor or unfuctional families with no proper education neither skills to work at proper jobs but on the other hand we have our life and problems too and we can't help everry boy we meet, all I can do is to be as much fair , respectful and generous to the boys I can and hope their life will be better for them in the future.

Very strange the censors won't allow kissing between male and female to be shown but same sex kissing broadcast with no problem whatsoever. Is it something in the Thai culture I am missing ?

Almost all hotels in Silom-Suriwong hotels are joiners friendly most of them will require to see or deposit the boy ID , My favorites are Furama Silom and Le Siam which you can just bypass the reception and go with your guests directly to the elevator. No questions asked.

I stayed in this hotel just when the Covid begun on March 2020 there was no noise coming into the room , the service was remarkable although they just canceled their famous buffet the breakfast was very delicious , the location is unbeatable and no problem with guests, the only downside is the very small pool .

Let's be honest most of the clients are seeking for good sex and most of the money boys are looking for money neither side is looking for true love it might happen occasionally when a MB and his client fall in love but it's very rare.

I think you misinterpreted my comment I don't see any wrong if one decides sending money to a boy if he loves him, appreciation for his service once they met or just because he likes him , Me for example met a Colombian boy through the Internet whom I am going to meet on Christmas for the first time and our relationship become more serious over time ( to my surprise ! )so I send him money every month to support him for me it's not a huge amount but for him it's a substantial help for paying the bills and buying groceries, but in this case the OP barely know this boy he even doesn't know his name however decided to send a small gift to him that wouldn't interpreted by mistake by the boy as a gesture of serious intention and if he sent money this is exactly what might be understood by the boy. The OP did the right thing.

The new generation of money boys are more business oriented they want money here and now they don't develop unrealistic expectations for long term romantic relationship with falangs . The most important change is that the quantity and quality of the Thai boys available reduced substantially due the huge improvement in the Thai economy.

I think giving money is not a good idea , it might cause unrealistic expectations from the boy point of view for receiving more money in the future and a modest gift the PO sent to him is a good Idea. Few years ago I had beutiful money boy whom I met in Phuket/ Patong in one of the bars there who travel with me for a week after coming back home I received many pleading requests from him for money, he implied that he doesn't want to go back to the bars scene and prefer to stay at his mom house I foolishly sent him 10k BHT so he can start new life on his hometown but then the requests for money become more frequent and for substantially bigger amount , I stopped answering the boy and ignored all his messages. it was the first and last time sending money to a Thai boy.

I think this waiter can save a lot of problems for himself if he just say straightforward that he can't bottom ,you are a nice person so you didn't mind but there's many nusty piece of art clients whom can react very badly when the boy actually can't be bottom for them.

Yes I agree it because most of the boys have family,study or day work commitments ,they don't have the time or the energy to play long time romantic games with potential naive farangs they provide requested service take the fee and go, many of them have boyfriend/girlfriend/married and their partners don't allow long term relationships with farangs anyway.

If it was true love the boy would never block and insist making contact with you to show you he is serious and have true feelings for you but one harmless jock from you he understood you aren't serious so he moved on to the next potential victims . He is money boy no more no less don't take this incident too seriously. The boy block you and moved on, you should do the same.

I agree with @Olddaddy, As you mentioned your frequent visits at this boy's bar made him considering you as a potential long term relationship based on financial support obviously, some of the Bar boys are tired of seeking customers for every shift work so finding long term falang who can support them financially without the need working every night at the bar seems very appealing,.

You should consider yourself as a very lucky man because it is very rare to find true love with much younger guy then you from a completely different culture then yours.

This kind of relationship which are not based on true love mostly can't survive too long because there is always the risk that the Thai boy will find wealthier farang ,or the older farang will find more attractive, younger or prettier Thai boy.

15 flights a week assuming 200 passengers per flight is 3000 per week 12000 per month ... it's really almost zero Chinese tourist for a nation of 1.5 billion.

It's only ten minutes walk but for Thai's its a marathon 😂