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Bingo! This is the prejudiced, ignorant, blinkered response I was waiting for. So a person can only have good English if he or she comes from an English-speaking country. (Australians speak English? Geez, you could have fooled me. ) Education, background, environment and self-motivation have no impact. The situation on the ground has no impact. Never met a Thai or Vietnamese who went to an international school or boarding school in the UK, have you? Oh that's right, what would they want to do with you. I'm going to have my dinner now. You're not invited. Bye. PS Which hoe is it going to be tonight?

Yes, I am from Singapore. I just checked my pink NRIC again, thanks! But you're the one who's saying that I'm not and that I'm in fact Australian in post 172 above. So I'm asking you, based on your own reasoning and story in post 172 above, why am I Australian and not Vietnamese or some other country which also recently legalised prostitution? You also said I was Australian on SN yesterday.

Stop pretending that you're a moderator. Why, according to you, am I Australian and not, also according to you, from Vietnam or a "couple of other countries" which also recently legalised prostitution. This is not rocket science and I'm not asking you to verify hearsay or unseen things that allegedly went on another board which you were banned from for harassing the owner and other posters when you couldn't have your way, which is what you're doing now. Remember, I didn't start the personal attacks in this thread; you and reader did. Again, I'm asking you about something that you brought up only a few moments ago on this very thread and is clear for everyone to see.

PS You live in Bangkok, don't you? There are plenty of organised activities that you can join: dancing, arts and crafts, bird-watching groups, animal rescuers, etc. Scour your local papers. A lot of gays are involved in these sorts of activities. You like languages right? Join a language class popular with Thais, say. Mandarin, Korean or Japanese. A friend of mine met a cute Thai doctor at his Korean class. It's no guarantee but it can happen.

No, I didn't. You did. Based on your reasoning, why couldn't have I been Vietnamese or from a "couple of others countries" that you mentioned also recently legalised prostitution? It's not difficult; you made the allegation only a few posts ago. No need to refer to old news.

According to my friends, Wat Prasingh is one of the gayest temples in Thailand. Lots of mincing novices in the mornings. That location should be alright. I've never been to La Fourchette but it is popular with the so-called expat community. If you're travelling in a group, it would be easier to hire a songtaew to get around. December is a great time to go but it will be busy, especially at Christmas.

Nice try there, you little rattler! Soo cute and lethal but best on a handbag - my stalker's! You said I can't be Singaporean and that I'm actually Australian because of the alleged boo-boo I made on the legality of prostitution in Sg. Have you already forgotten what you wrote in post 172 above? So, I ask you again, why can't I be Vietnamese or from a "couple of other countries" for they too, according to you, had recently legalised prostitution? Why did you anoint me as Australian? As for that so-called trap that Stalker-Fountainhole laid for me, that rubbish was trashed in my self-intro/sawatdii pii mai thread which is here somewhere. Disingenuous of you to bring this up and not mention that thread which you aggressively participated in.

samebb is right. If you haven't met them by now, you probably won't. But meeting regular Thai people is the easiest thing. They may be shy at the first but they'll quickly warm up to you once they know you're fun to hang around with. As with everywhere else in the world, an easy-and-outgoing personality helps. You start by making one friend and then another and then another as they introduce you to their friends. In my experience, the easiest way is to join a game of basketball or football (soccer). Do you live in a middle class neighbourhood or near a university? Hang around the courts and look interested in the game. Indicate your interest to join. Granted it was easier for me because we had plenty of ice-breaking activities during orientation when I first arrived. Another good way of meeting people is through volunteering. What about your job? That should be another avenue. Find out what your colleagues do in their spare time and try to get invited. As I said, Thais are quite shy and you must make the first move. Always say yes when people invite you out for the first time, even if the activity sounds the most banal to your own sensitivities. You might actually end up enjoying it. You can always decline subsequent invites if you don't. Again, if you send out the vibe that you're a cool guy who's fun to hang out with, who's open-minded and who's willing to try and experience new things, especially things out of your comfort zone, you'll make friends easily. It is the same in Thailand as it is in Singapore or Germany. As for specifically wanting to meet rich people, I don't know. I'm not rich and this group tend to hang around in similar circles. Their lifestyle would be quite different from mine. That said, I do have a few friends who I guess come from wealthy families but this is purely coincidental and I did not purposely seek them out. Again, I met them through mutual friends and interests. Good luck!

Yeh mate! So why can't I be Vietnamese? How you came to the above conclusion is too bizarre to contemplate. I changed my post due to sloppy writing early in the morning and you concluded I was Australian! Amaaaazing! So what other countries recently legalised prostitution? I acknowledge that you are the world authority on this subject based on personal consumption. However, I don't want to be Australian because by association with you, it wouldn't reflect well on my intelligence (no offence to other Australians). Vietnam is cool but is there anything sexier? Fiji perhaps? It's no wonder that frequent and cdnmatt run circles around you. What is it that you Aussies say? Too easy? So if you met an Arab who speaks perfect English, he can't be Arab? What about an Arab who's a good driver! Crikey! That would be most unsettling for you, wouldn't it because it wouldn't gel with your prejudices? It's so much easier to be ignorant and prejudiced. Going by your logic, a bus driver from the UK would have better English than a Thai doctor educated at international schools. Going by your logic, you'd be a 10-year-old girl who'd stomp her feet when you couldn't have your way iin the playground (OK, that part may be true). Try getting out more and widening your social circle; try educating yerself cuz y'know mate, the world is much bigger than that little bordello in your head.

One last time. Show me one post out of the 345 that I have made on both boards where I've said or even implied that "because I am relatively young Thai boy find me attractive and willing to spend long term without discussing money issues but I always pay them generously for their company. (sic)" Just one post. To the moderators: I'm not going to reply to reader on this thread anymore but for the record, he started this with no provocation from me whatsoever. I hadn't posted on this board in months and wasn't even interested in this thread until somebody drew my attention to the offending post. To the others, my apologies for the interruption.

Oh dear, more reading and comprehension problems. Here's post 141 in its entirety: OK, let's stick to the text as closely as possible. Show me one post out of the 345 that I have made on both boards where I've said "because I am relatively young Thai boy find me attractive and willing to spend long term without discussing money issues but I always pay them generously for their company. (sic)"

I repeat. In light of your innuendo and personal attack in post no. 141 above - with no provocation from me whatsoever - show me one post out of the more than 300 that I have made on both boards where I talked about Thai guys lusting after me or me lusting after them, for money or otherwise.

You're welcome. As for hotels, you might want to stay somewhere in the Old City, on the east side of the moat (Thapae Gate) as it will give you the easiest access to the venues mentioned above, which are mostly to the east (Night Bazaar), west (HOM) and north (go go bars) of the Old City. I've never stayed there but Hotel M seems to be quite popular and close to many breakfast-type places in the vicinity. A great area for people watching. I sometimes sit and read at the Black Canyon just across from the hotel. This is also where the Chiang Mai Sunday Market starts. A little overrated in my opinion but no harm going for a stroll if you happen to be there on a Sunday evening.

You don't read very well for a 'reader'. Post no. 6 and post no. 9 are not contradictory. I misunderstood post no. 6 to mean that whall had been to both Chiang Mai and Pattaya previously but after reading post no. 8 and re-reading post no. 6, I realised that I had made a mistake and that he had only been to Pattaya before and had never been to Chiang Mai. I acknowledged this in post no. 9 and strongly suggested that he visit Chiang Mai for it's unique charm. I'm only a member here and of SN. I'm not a member of Gaybuttonthai although I read it often. So that's two boards, not three. But if imagining me in multiples of three suits your fantasies, there's nothing I can do about it (but can you cope, with only two hands and my combined 27 inches? Can that ubiquitous echo bobsagging help?) And as for seeing me as a "young, sexy guy" (x3), that's clearly something that is preoccupying your imagination these days. Perhaps you can fill it with something more realistic and achievable, like contributing to the subject matter of this thread, rather than wasting it on something that's clearly out of your league and will only ever remain in your imagination.

I think I might have misread your earlier post. I think you should go to Chiang Mai if you've never been. You just might get bitten by the Chiang Mai charm. I don't know much about the "sex places" as they don't really interest me. I've been to a few of the venues on musgrave's list and although I didn't dislike them, I can't say I liked them enough to want to go back anytime soon. My friends and I hit mainly Thai-speaking and mixed venues. I've been to Adam's Apple and didn't find it anything special although it's the closest to the large Bangkok showbars in terms of facilities. One or two goodlooking boys but the rest look like they just stepped out from a dark alley or construction site. Not to my taste but others find them attractive. The best looking guys I have seen in Chiang Mai are at uni, the clubs and on the streets.

I see you're still obsessed with me despite my not posting on the boards for the last couple of months. Why would you even think of me let alone my sex life when by right your biggest concern in Thailand should be which guy you would bed tonight for a thousand Baht? I never think of old, fat, farang guys when I think of sex. As a matter of fact, I don't think much of farang guys at all. I didn't have the heart to tell my stalker this but I'm telling you now: regardless of what's going on in your little head, both upstairs and downstairs, your obsession is not being reciprocated. For the record, I have never discussed my sex life here or on SN. Other than a general appreciation for hot guys' pics and one night where things got a little frisky in a karaoke bar - and that was more about the situation than me - show me one post out of the more than 300 that I have made on both boards where I talked about Thai guys lusting after me or me lusting after them, for money or otherwise. In fact, I mentioned very early on, albeit fleetingly, that I have a boyfriend. And he is not Thai or farang.

It doesn't have to be either or. Air Asia flies between Chiang Mai and Pattaya. Five days in CM should be enough to cover most of the major sights comfortably. As you've been to CM previously, you can zero in on the places you'd like to visit.

Discreetly. The Sixteenth Chapel look. He was so adorable in this and that look at the end when he realised he had been busted. Awwww... David Letterman is such a mean Grampa.

Pardon me for butting in, but can't you just call or email a hotel and find out what their joiner policy is? Of course, personal experiences as related here, on TripAdvisor, hotel booking sites, etc are useful but I would have thought the first step would be to contact the hotel directly.

...or anorexic.

Good advice. Just tread carefully and try not to make financial and emotional investments you can't afford to lose. Remember there's always plenty of time and there's always another guy even when you think there aren't any. Good luck!

No, not at all. Thanks for giving us some background.

Thanks for sharing your observations and experiences, GWMinUS. You sound like a generous and caring guy and I'm happy to hear that you've built great friendships in the Philippines. Is it really true that some of them do not get enough to eat? That's really sad if true in 2017. My mum went to a teachers' conference in Manila about 17 years ago and she said street urchins were waiting for her leftovers as she was eating at a restaurant??

Exactly, I acknowledged that I was making a broad generalisation and phrased my question tentatively. Unlike you, I wasn't making emphatic statements about a distinct Asian point of view and dismissively labeling people (and their understanding of Asia) as Asian or un-Asian. Anyway I know that you have a lot of free time now after being banned from SN and picking a fight with ryanasia and derailing this thread would give you something to do. Ryanasia, sorry for that distraction. Back to your post. I think it's great that you managed to learn another language and immerse yourself in another culture as an adult (which I know is not easy to do) and you were probably on your own most of the time. I'm doing something similar with Thai but I receive a lot of support and am in a structured programme. My question for you is: with your experience in Japan and Asia generally, why are you choosing to go back to the States and would you be making use of that experience when you're back home, say in a business or something? I'm sure you've thought it through, done your homework, etc but do you think you'll be able to make the transition of living back in the West? I ask because I have a very handsome Canadian friend who came to Thailand at 25 to work as a teacher and seven years later he's still here. He tried to go back home twice but couldn't cope with the lifestyle there. So he's stuck here living in a cheap apartment and surviving on an English's teacher's wage. I'm sure your situations are very different as you seem to have done well for yourself but I'm just curious about your thoughts on this.

Vinapu, the OP would need to have a very long tongue to "taste Pattaya properly."