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This was the first trip that I spent many evenings with the same guy, a 24-year-old Vietnam guy I had come to know on my previous trip. We became very comfortable with the other's company. Having said that, I still frequented the massage shops I enjoyed in the past plus a new one. (I'll be posting my massage comments in Divine Madman's excellent massage thread in this forum) This was also the first trip where I enjoyed the opportunity to meet three other members: Paulsf, Divine Madman and ggobkk. All are old Bangkok hands and wonderful companions. I spent many evenings with Paul, watching the fascinating comings and goings on Soi Twilight from his regular perch at Maxis. Thanks, Paul, for the memories. Just hope the soi will be there on my next visit. Also hung out at Telephone on Soi 4 where the waiters may not know my name but certainly know what I drink. Great guys all and a good place to meet my favorite guy after he get off work. Since I'm not really a show guy, I leave it up to others comment on that front. However I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge the drag queen who appears outside Fresh Boys before the shows in the most extravagant costumes. And she looked remarkably convincing in all of them. And since I was observing her from Paul's table at Maxis, I began to look forward to her nightly excursion across the soi to put hands on a young our waiter who returned the gesture. I can assure readers that's it's still possible to have a great time in Bangkok. Yes, if Twilight becomes a memory, we'll have to worker harder in pursuit of it. but I can't see myself not returning. I very much want to leave this report on a hopeful note so allow me to quote from "One Night in Bangkok": One night in Bangkok makes the hard man humble Not much between despair and ecstasy One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble Can't be too careful with your company I can feel the devil walking next to me

Time used in pursuit of massage never wasted, just invested. Patience rewards the virtuous........and all other intentions.

You have a very sharp eye for talent, Vinapu.

Found the place OK today a little after 3p.m. but was not open. Will be on top of list for next trip. With a new start up, better to heed DM's advice and call ahead. Good landmark to identify private road: look for small blue "taxi" sign and turn left. As DM says, nearly at very end.

Simply because my posting frequency tended to dominate the posts. I felt that my particular style of posting was better suited to a board that generated more posts. My posts were about Thailand were more Bangkok centered where the posts in GB are more Pattaya centric. I have nothing but respect for the contributions GB's board makes to the gay Thai scene. The more boards the better, in my opinion.

The visibility of the gay "scene" has changed all over the globe during the past few decades. Some of it has moved on line but gays now feel more free to congregate in venues that are not exclusive to them. I see no evidence to support the claim that gay tourists are abandoning Bangkok. I do, however, agree that the age of visitors is constantly increasing. Unless you've discovered the fountain of youth, I don't know how this can be avoided. But perhaps you're unique and actually growing younger. I've had the pleasure of meeting three board members during this trip. All are in my age range and are wonderful companions to spend time with at a lively bar. We discuss the guys around us, places we go and things we do. That's something that I've been doing with friends for half a century and counting. The significant influx of Chinese gays, the majority of whom are exercising their freedom at a much younger age than many of us did, are supporting the bars and massage shops. They represent a healthy influence that bodes well for the future of gay Bangkok. This is my 16th year (I've lost count of number of trips) of coming here and this has been one of my most memorable. I regret that you seem to have had different experiences. (And I don't believe that any one of us has missed your point)

Gaybutton posts here on topics of interest to most members. In the Thailand section section of GB's board (which DThump conveniently omitted from his post), I frequently find worthwhile reading.

There were some earlier posts in thread about boys asking 2,000 tip for one hour. Few days ago I was quoted 2,000 before massage began. I told him I pay 1200 for hour. After a bit of discussion it turned out he was asking an all-in price of 2,000 (500 shop fee plus 1500 tip). However, he quickly accepted 1200. I mention this because it's indeed posssible for misunderstanding between what the boy is thinking and what we are assuming. Both are at a language disadvantage unless you speak Thai or he English.

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Being here in Bkk for the past week, can report that Twilight is alive and doing OK. No secret that the Chinese are a big boost to the show bars along with other foreigners. Maxi's has a strong following of locals, expats and visitors, serving up food and drink at reasonable prices. Bonny and Bangkok massage shops chugging along with good selection of guys for every taste. Despite all the various rumors in circulation about its ultimate demise, what impresses me most is that all who work the Soi are proceeding with business as usual attitude. No.guarantees what particular rumor is closest to bring on the money, but it continues to have that certain magic that has kept guys like myself coming back for more. Actually, I'm enjoying it more now than I ever had in the past. It's like pausing to appreciate what has now become an endangered species: all the qualities and beauty you took for granted suddenly come into focus.

Denny59, Your ability to contribute seems limited to criticizing those who do.

Even if I told you it's guaranteed to improve you're already sexy legs?

....odds are that you'll enjoy this episode of a popular US cooking show. The host visits Chiang Mai and explores the local cuisine, including what he consider the best charcoal-roasted chicken he's ever had. Then he shows you how you can make it at home. Enjoy! https://www.177milkstreet.com/tv/from-thailand-with-love

From The Nation U-TAPAO International Airport passenger numbers are expected to double this year and new investment of Bt200 billion to expand the airport’s capacity under the Eastern Economic Corridor Initiative (EEC) is expected to start next year, government authorities say. Last year, passenger arrivals at the airport were one million, up from 700,000 from the year before, U-Tapao Airport Authority director Rear Admiral Luechai Sri-Eamgool said yesterday. This year the number of arrivals would reach two million. In the first four months of the current fiscal year (October-January) the number of arrivals were about 700,000, he said. Terms of reference are being drafted for a new investment plan to expand the capacity from three million passengers to 15 million, and they will be completed by the end of this year. The investment is estimated to cost Bt200 billion and government will use the public-private partnership (PPP) mode in order to reduce its budget burden. A master plan for the development of the whole airport is expected to be completed early next year. Then, international bidding will begin for construction. The project will include a new runway, air-cargo facilities, an aviation training centre, and an aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul centre, with combined land use of up to 6,500 rai (1040 hectares). It will take about five years for construction to be completed. The new airport will be connected by high-speed rail to the two international airports in Bangkok – Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi – said Kanit Sangsubhan, secretary-general of the EEC office. In the long term, the airport could expand its capacity to accommodate 60 million passengers a year, equivalent to Suvarnabhumi’s capacity, he said. The new investment is expected to ease air traffic congestion in Bangkok amid the tourism boom. Better rail transport in the EEC would also ease road traffic. Travelling by high-speed rail from Bangkok to the EEC would take only 45 minutes, down from two-and-a-half hours by road, he said. The government would upgrade these to be able produce 6,000 technicians a year. It would also allow foreign investors to bring in highly skilled labourers to close the gap, he added.He conceded that there were shortages of technicians, as investors would need to employ more than 50,000 qualified people and local vocational institutions could currently produce only 300 a year. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30339117

From Coconuts Bangkok Near the top of Soi 7, which has been dubbed “Soi Public Toilet,” there’s a vacant lot behind a scary corrugated tin wall. In front of it is a bougie, white people wedding-style chalkboard sign proclaiming that, if you walk through a break in the wall, you can experience the “Vacant Lot Restaurant — Bangkok’s Most Unique Dining Experience.” Never being a news team to walk away from a challenge, we headed into the lot on Wednesday afternoon. The setting was as promised — a vacant lot dotted with rubble and a weird patchwork of tiled floors left behind by the businesses that occupied the space before being demolished two years ago, according to Vacant Lot Restaurant owner Suda Chumpang, 55, who said it was formerly a complex housing bars, karaoke rooms, snooker halls, and massage parlors. Red steel tables sit in one corner of the large lot, near an outdoor kitchen, big blue ice cooler, and somtam stand. The mostly empty space provides a view of random debris and the JW Marriott Hotel in the distance. A few Thai women in short dresses were eating while one older white guy nursed a warm Chang while giving off forgotten farang husband vibes. The humble al fresco dining option seems to be popular among all types of people from tourists, to local Nana girls, to Thai laborers. Nampeung, the restaurant’s waitress, quickly greeted Coconuts staff with a smile. She spoke English fairly well and got us started with a couple of small local beers for THB100 each and waters for THB30 each. Compared to the cost of eating elsewhere in the tourist area, Suda’s restaurant offered a tempting deal. We got a shrimp pad thai for THB50 and stir-fried morning glory for THB40. No dual pricing here. Suda had much to say about foreigners and Thai food. As someone who has been in the F&B trade for many years — she used to have a restaurant in Ayutthaya — she said that farangs know much more about Thai food than they did just a few years ago. They used to stick to pad thai and fried rice, but now they can handle spice, eating larb with aplomb and ordering krapow like a local. “They even eat somtam with plara (super-stinky fermented fish)!” she said with delight. Continues with pics https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/vacant-lot-restaurant-bangkoks-unique-dining-experience/

From The Nation The once tightly guarded banknote-printing plant is now open for all to see – and to use THAILAND’S ORIGINAL Note Printing Facility, sitting alongside the Chao Phraya River in Bangkok, used to be a highly restricted facility enclosed within walls, its windows reinforced with thick iron bars. Now it’s welcoming visitors as the Learning Centre, with glass walls and open spaces, housing the Bank of Thailand Museum, a hi-tech library, and one of those new-fashioned “co-working spaces”. Opposite Bank of Thailand headquarters on Samsen Road next to Rama VIII Bridge, the 49-year-old building, designed by ML Santhaya Israsena and Dr Ratchata Kanjanavit, ceded its 12,900 square metres to the Learning Centre, which opened earlier this year to commemorate the central bank’s 75th anniversary. BANK ON LEARNING The Bank of Thailand Learning Centre on Samsen Road of Bangkok is open daily except Monday from 9.30am. The museum closes at 4.30pm and the library and co-working space at 8pm. Admission to the museum is free until June. Guided tours are conducted six times a day, at 9.30, 10, 10.30, 1.30, 2 and 2.30. The tour lasts an hour and 45 minutes. Find out more at (02) 356 7766 or visit www.Botlc.or.th.

Regardless of the time frame in which the fate of Twilight unfolds, can't imagine any conditions that would prompt a Bangkok bar operator to shift his operation to Pattaya. Those venues already established there are doing well just to maintain current business levels. And as others have mentioned, I don't see customers who enjoy the Bangkok scene inclined to shift to Pattaya. Nor do I see boys accustomed to the advantages of Bangkok moving south. Think it's safe to assume that something is going to happen. But whatever it is, odds are heavy that it will all play out in BKK.

From Bloomberg News Rising prices are more of a threat to the global economy this year than joblessness, according to Bloomberg’s Misery Index, which sums inflation and unemployment outlooks for 66 economies. Venezuela marks its fourth year as the world’s most miserable economy, with a score that’s more than three times what it was in 2017. Thailand again claimed “least miserable” status, though the nation’s unique way of calculating unemployment makes No. 2 Singapore worth noting. Elsewhere, Mexico looks to make big strides this year as inflation becomes more manageable, while Romania absorbs more misery for the opposite reason. The Bloomberg Misery Index relies on the age-old concept that low inflation and unemployment generally illustrate how good an economy’s residents should feel. Sometimes, of course, a low tally can be misleading in either category: Persistently low prices can be a sign of poor demand, and too-low joblessness shackles workers who want to switch to better jobs, for instance. The results largely signal a global economic outlook that remains bright overall: Economists are penciling in 3.7 percent year-on-year growth for the world in 2018, matching last year’s pace that was the best since 2011, according to the Bloomberg survey median. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-14/most-miserable-economies-of-2018-stay-haunted-by-inflation-beast -------------------------------- ....But not all is rosy From Aljazeera Bangkok is a mix of modern urban bustle and ancient tradition, but a new problem is casting a shadow over the entire city - some of the worst air pollution in its history. Thailand's capital and its ten million residents are enduring extreme levels of air pollution. There are accusations the government is not giving proper warnings about the health risks. Continues with video https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/bangkok-facing-weeks-extreme-air-pollution-180216114832979.html

From Khmer Times The section of the western railway line linking Poipet in Banteay Meanchey province to Battambang is now ready to be tested after the train stations were connected on Tuesday, with trial runs likely to happen before Khmer New Year, according to the Minister of Transport. Speaking at the nation’s first official logistics forum on Tuesday, Minister of Transport and Public Works Sun Chanthol also announced that Thai counterparts have finished work on the section of the line that runs in Thailand, from Aranya Pratet in the border to Bangkok. The western rail line is one of only two railways that exist in the kingdom. The other one, connecting Phnom Penh to Preah Sihanouk province in the coast, is already in service. It is expected to play a key role in facilitating trade and the movement of people between Cambodia and Thailand, with leaders from both countries having publicly committed to tripling bilateral trade to $15 billion by the year 2020. Trade between both countries was valued at $5.5 billion in 2017, a 10 percent increase year-on-year. http://www.khmertimeskh.com/50108708/northern-section-of-cambodian-western-rail-line-ready-for-test/

I'm sure this service isn't limited to women. From Khaosod English BRIGHTER BUTTS, DARKER FUTURES Walk into any high-end department store in Bangkok and find an immense display of cosmetic brands from Avon to Yves Saint Laurent. Whatever their primary purpose, they all share one prominent feature – making parts of your body whiter. There are whitening lotions, creams and deodorants. There’s even whitening sunblock to get whatever the opposite of a tan is. In exclusive clinics and expensive spas around the city, remake a whiter you with injections, lasers, bleaches, peels, sand-jobs and more. Scratching your head yet? Now comes one of the most delicate offerings imaginable: Bleaching the “backdoor” to look bright and glowing in the farthest reaches. This whole whispered-not-spoken treatment can be had by trendy women or intrepid gents for a few thousand baht. It intrigued me – but not enough to try. So out came the questions when a new friend mumbled quietly that she does bleach her undercarriage. In the end, her burning tale was a window into the lengths someone would go to increase their stock in the infidelity game. Why do Thai women want to be white? White skin means status. It means coming from another class. It means they are the ones who can afford to pay for those dark-skinned people (farmers) to work for them. The trend started off with facial whitening slowly moved down from the face into the armpits only to now find its way further south to encompass even an area seen as little as the butt? Racism is evident in Thai society. Men prefer light-skinned women. Their darker sisters, usually from lower economic rungs, are teased. Constantly reminded of their misfortune; their inferiority complex digs deeper when validated by being at the tail-end of the pickings. Thailand’s monogamous society turns a blind eye. Encouraged by wealth, women have happily opted to be mistresses to prominent men. As for the friend who lightens the end of her tunnel, the arrangement comes happily without the responsibilities of being wife or mother. Her duty is only to make sure she is beautiful, well-groomed and available at a moment’s notice. So the reasoning behind these painful weekly whitening rituals, simply put, is assuring herself of a higher bank balance. The idea wasn’t her’s. During an early encounter, while watching porn together, he suggested she should have the attributes of a favorite porn star and persuaded her to look into such services in the city. So to secure her position as the preferred mistress, she sought professional help in the name of a spa. This educated, modern Thai lady passes the activity off as part of her grooming. It becomes part of her routine of hair, manicure, pedicure, hair removal and acne treatment. By week’s end, she becomes the fantasy. So what happens at these clinics? Are doctors present? How dangerous are these procedures? These and more were my questions. According to her: Painful, yes, and it takes a few days to heal – perfect for when he’s with the wife – but she’s getting used to it. Hydroquinone, a benzene derivative known as kojic acid, is used for the whitening. No doctors are present, but specialists dressed in white medical uniforms create the image of medical professionalism. As it requires a contortionist’s flexibility to actually admire the bleached area, how do you know the spa did a good job? By his constant reminders, she says, that it’s time for the next appointment when the naturally dark skin color begins to return. The downsides: scarred tissue, infection and pain. The upsides: a pristine feel-good factor and cleanliness. In the future, will society be judged as having gone off the rails when we became slaves to dollar signs or when porn stars became role models? http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/02/15/brighter-butts-darker-futures/

From Khaosod English A skinny man with a stylish high fade walks in holding two tall Long Islands. He hands one off and sips the other. He is M. “Okay, Zepee first, then Cher, Angele, followed by Chaka,” he instructs his colorful crew, who will soon take the stage in that order. M then slips into a chiffon dress that’s blue and yellow and leopard print. Under a khaki-colored wig cap, he tilts his head down toward a table mirror and puts on a long black wig. That’s exactly when Chakgai “M” Jermkwam ceases to exist. Now, she is M Stranger Fox. It’s almost midnight backstage at a shophouse bar in a busy soi off Silom Road when M Stranger Fox leads her drag posse down dark narrow stairs to a mezzanine stage divided by red curtains. She parts them a few inches to peek at the bar and audience below. Nodding to the DJ blaring a remix of Alaska Thunderfuck’s “Hieeee,” she wraps her fingers around a handheld microphone. She dashes out. The crowd cheers. In the 120 minutes to follow at The Stranger Bar, the five drag queens would sashay in and out to deliver high-kicking dance numbers, impeccable lip-syncs, quick-witted jokes and thrown shade to earn some 100-baht tips. While Thailand is famous for its kathoey, or ladyboys or transgender women, drag queen culture has little history in the kingdom. But it’s global rise as entertainment and identity comes as Thailand is reaching toward a new level of open-mindedness toward LGBT entertainers. Instead of playing the clown, they are seeking respect as artist-slash-geniuses and individuals. “I never dressed up like a woman before, never wore high heels before. [The Stranger Bar] made me find drag,” M said over a messy pile of heels and boots in the dressing room before the show. “Being drag allows you to be more foul-mouthed. It’s the power of eyelash, lipstick and high heels.” Continues with many photos http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/02/15/send-queens-thai-queer-culture-gets-drag-makeover/

From NY Times The entrance to Ba Hao, a bar in Bangkok's Chinatown district.CreditDavid Rama Terrazas Morales for The New York Times From upstart creative spaces and obscure bars to neighborhoods where a surprising urban tranquillity reigns, Bangkok remains ripe for discovery. One of the first Thai words that foreigners learn in Bangkok is farang, or foreigner. And no wonder. More than 20 million farang descend on the temples and temptations of Thailand’s capital every year, making it one of the planet’s most visited cities. You run into each other in hotels and restaurants, in the air-conditioned mega-malls of Siam Square, at the teeming Chatuchak outdoor market and the Buddhist sites of Wat Pho and Wat Arun. Together, you jostle through the crowds along the buzzing Sukhumvit strip and the backpacker haven of Khao San Road. And there you are again, venturing into the famous go-go bars of Patpong and Soi Cowboy. Fortunately, Bangkok is vast and fast-evolving, with many remote corners and newly minted hangouts. From upstart creative spaces and restaurants to obscure back street bars to the under-visited Thonburi district, Bangkok remains ripe for discovery. Continues with many photos https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/travel/36-hours-what-to-do-in-bangkok.html

For years I've fantasized about going to a sauna in Rio. You're bringing it into focus at just the right pace, allowing time between episodes for the experience to take shape and lust to flourish. The footfalls you hear behind you on the steps are mine.

From Bloomberg News Thailand’s central bank left its benchmark interest rate unchanged near a record low, while forecasting inflation will pick up and return to the target range next quarter. Monetary policy committee members voted unanimously to hold the one-day bond repurchase rate at 1.5 percent, where it’s been since 2015, according to a Bank of Thailand statement on its website on Wednesday. The decision was predicted by all economists in a Bloomberg survey. The Bank of Thailand, which has missed its inflation target of 1 percent to 4 percent in the past three years, is grappling with a stronger currency that’s limiting price gains and posing a threat to the nation’s exports, one of the main drivers of growth. The baht has gained more than 11 percent in the past 12 months, among the best performers in Asia. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-14/thailand-holds-key-rate-to-support-growth-momentum-as-baht-gains

From Bangkok Post Kuala Lumpur: A stereotype-laden checklist for spotting gay men and lesbian women published by a popular Malaysian newspaper has sparked outrage in the Muslim-majority nation, with activists warning it could endanger lives. The Malay-language tabloid Sinar Harian claimed gay men love to go to the gym -- just to check out other men -- wear tight clothes to show off their physiques and tend to sport beards, while their eyes widen when they see handsome men. Lesbians, the paper said, "hate men" and enjoy hugging. The list, published Friday, was swiftly met with derision online, while campaigners warned it could further stoke animosity against LGBTQ groups, who have been increasingly targeted with violence and discrimination in recent years. "It exposes these people to bullying, which could lead to violent hate crimes towards them," Eric Paulsen, Lawyers for Liberty executive director, told AFP Tuesday. Malaysia has experienced growing religious fundamentalism in recent years, sparking friction between conservative forces and those campaigning for greater rights. The country retains its colonial-era criminal ban on sodomy, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison, caning or a fine. https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asean/1411695/spot-a-gay-list-in-malaysian-newspaper-sparks-outrage