Badboy81

I can't beleve you have only been going for the last 15 years... Imagine what is was like in the 90s...

Ill do some research on this....when did you start going to them in Rio?

Lets pray that it goes back up in December so its even better for me....It was at the lowest it has been for Americans when I was just there in October

Translation- The photo was cropped so that you can not tell the full identity of the person in the photo (but the tattoo may help) I had a hard time finding a photo that represents him well. He talks dirty in Portuguese which turned you on....

100% agreed.... I said it before.... I have tried to figure out what language he is trying to speak...as it is not or does not sound like basic English..... I just stopped even trying to read his posts.... Maybe he wants to assert how intelligent he is by typing in a way that has us question what his native language is... Ill continue to not those posts...

Unless you are very attractive and speak Portuguese, your chances of picking up a guy on the streets is minimal...not saying it wont happen but very unlikely.... You can always invite a sauna guy you are interested in out for dinner or drinks or back to your hotel/apartment.... You should definitely bone up on some Portuguese so that you can communicate as most of the locals do not speak English

To my knowledge Rio does not have any hustler bars, saunas take the need for those away...there are places where you can pick up guys but NOT recommended unless you know Rio well and speak Portuguese... Tomcal, I have seen a lot of the sauna boys in Lapa after they have left the sauna or on the beaches during the day...I have seen them on both Copacabana and Ipanema... I think it is important to clarify that there are sauna guys that are strictly gay for pay and then there are the ones they are gay but work in the saunas.... Depending on a slew of things from how attractive you are...how generous you are...how well you speak Portuguese....etc....you may be able to get some attention out and about in Rio from the gay guys as well as the gay guys in the saunas.... Unless you are paying for their time....the ones that are strictly gay for pay, you wont be getting any acknowledgement from them outside of the saunas... Over my years of traveling back and forth to Rio...I have seen guys all over the city in their everyday life and have had some speak or acknowledge me and other simply nod and keep it moving...

I think you may have great relationshios because of your frequency of travel and how generous you are... I still like to get the most out of my money and still work hard..I flew in and went straight to my office... I have some time to decide since Im still heavily investes in acquiring holdings here in Atl... There would have to be more pros than cons... And while tourism stays consistent in Rio...the real to dollar changes way too much...

Ok...Having issues uploading photos...Any suggestions on why?

Amazing, excellent experience as usual... The basics... 117 was as usual Thursday, Friday and Saturday...did not go Sunday... Not sure how Sunday was but I imagine it was packed as it was cold, windy and dreary do the sauna would have been a perfect place to stay warm and comfortable.... One thing that really came to my mind this trip is....Those sauna boys definitely have to work hard for the money....there is a lot of competition for the money that does come in...As I only travel to Rio 3-4 times a year, I have no idea what it is like on the regular....I have been in each season and it has always been pretty busy... The usual very attractive to mediocre guys there...something for all tastes but the general description was attractive, muscular or very fit...big dick....mixed, white, a few black guys.... I enjoyed the company of a very hot mixed guy on Thursday, beautiful body and lips...incredible ass....enjoyed him again on Friday....Also sampled a short, lighter Latino guy....even more amazing ass than the first one....He came by the hotel Sunday, well past my scheduled check out time...I actually was at the front desk asking for a second extension when he walked in....He was worth the wait and the money... Another observation that I had that a good friend of mine who lives in Rio helped me understand....my interest was to move to Rio part in the future to work and live part time....I wanted to purchase a condo but he suggested I just travel there as I have been and continue to rent hotels or apartments because of the exorbitant cost to purchase condos there... Time will tell....Still have some more time to consider this and I would love to have rental income in Rio... Back on track...Enjoyed the beach Thursday...ate some amazing foods and fruits...went to Lapa, went to an amazing Samba school and enjoyed some quality time with my friend that lives in Rio... Will definitely be back in December for New Years... Pics documenting my trip to follow....

Time will tell....Even if they all closed, I don't think that would change the reason why many travel to the country... There will always be a demand for flesh and guys who are willing to cater to that demand.... I think if the sauna scene changed, more things would be underground OR maybe Rio should do the guys they have Villa Mimosa and just make a party district that caters to the gays, all in one area....

Still a win win for those of us using dollars..

Interesting conversation... I do remember dancing in Stellas as a wee lad (not sure how legal I was) and yes it closed in the early mid 2000s...It was time...Long gone are the seedy bars of yesterday..Now you have Swinging Richards and the clubs in Miami/Ft Lauderdale where the guys are insanely expensive.... As far as the saunas scene in Brazil...It has evolved....there are actually still the same quantity of boys for pay in all major cities in Brazil....Just less competition on where to find them, which enhances our chances of not having to go to several to find what we want/like.... There are just various avenues outside of going to a pay saunas or a hustler bar to find them... Most major cities that cater to tourists willing to spend money on trade, Barcelona, Rio, Mexico City, New York, LA....hell Atlanta have various places where you can find "working boys" on the streets.... The internet and apps have taken the place of seedy bars, hole in the walls and some less desirable places where one would previously have to go OR not know where to go... I don't see the sauna scene going away in Brazil because it is a WAY OF LIFE, cultural compared to other countries where it is more hidden or less out in the open....gay saunas in Brazil are in NEIGHBORHOODS..Like next to schools...literally... It is seen as a respectable way to earn income... Aside from the pay for play saunas that have come and gone in Brazil as a whole...there are still a good number of places to pick up boys, ie, the beach, the street, Sexy Rose, tons of bars without apps... I just don't see the sauna scene going away anytime in the future...way too much money to be made in a 3rd world country where people do not mind putting a price in their time or "efforts"...

Hey man...Thanks for the updates...Ill be in Rio next week... I haven't gotten around to having regulars during my visits but that does make a lot of sense..especially if I like a particular guy...

You posted the same question 4 times...I guess by mistake... The same guys you see these older men with find them in the saunas or in the gay areas.... Do you speak Portuguese? If not, you will not have an easy time with these local guys... Some of these May/December situations you see are with Brazilians and other Brazilians... The ones you see that are foreigners either live in Brazil and are know or speak the language.... Best of luck though...

Lol...locals... I know where to find boys to pay for

Has anyone had luck on Grindr? Tinder? Or Hornet?

1) Recommendations for hotels with easy metro access to 117 and NMM ? Highly suggest staying in Copa or Ipanema and just staying near a metro station....google hotels near metro stations in Copa or Ipanema....there are tons... The touristy areas have higher quality hotels and are safest for somebody that does not speak Portuguese 2) 100 R is the going rate, I guess. If I want only an oral session without fucking and without the GP cumming, is it reasonable to pay less? If so, how much? Rates are not set in stone BUT you get what you pay for...Unless you are extremely attractive and really do not need to go to saunas...you are not really getting any major discounts or deals.... That said, it also depends on how busy the place is...how hard up the garoto is for cash that day, how easy a mark you may appear.... Just keep in mind you get what you pay for... 3) 5 years ago I was guided to a dictionary of sex terms in Portugese. Please guide me again. Google is your friend! https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-talk-dirty-in-Portugese 4) Any chance of finding a GP who's cut? Good luck....7.4% in Brazil (13% in Rio de Janeiro) You literally can find stats on anything from Google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision 5) Is 117 really open with real action till 1:00 am (per websites)? The later it gets, the more dead it is...the guys working in the saunas have lives/families and tend to get in early so they can leave out and hang out or go home to their families.... You may see some of the truly gay ones around the beach or maybe Lapa...I have more than once or twice 6) A post here mentioned free same-day re-entry at 117 as some kind of personal gesture. Did I understand correctly? Isn't it automatic? Probably not happening unless you are well know and a regular (who would never leave and go back)...

Ill try to understand what you tried to say here.... I don't consider commenting or reading or replying back to posts "trolling".... I haven't said anything negative in a while but I actually TRIED to decipher what you typed and just decided to leave it alone... My question was genuine though....BUT you may not be American so that is why it was so hard for me to try to understand your wording... No disprespect

What an international HOE....Joking... I don't like Mexico City but love Cancun....Had an amazing time there and met the HOTTEST guy with the phattest, nicest ass I've ever seen on a Mexican...In Mexico or the states....

Wait...what language is this? Are you joking or really type and talk like this?

Experience is the best teacher....you can't base all your decisions off the experiences of others since they will vary...based on the person, how smart they are....how well versed they are in the culture, how attractive they are...etc. As far as some of the questions, you are so right, I should not complain about guys asking the same questions over and over again instead of just ignoring them and looking at new posts that are more interesting... I will tell you this from traveling all over the world, you learn by trial and error and you learn as much as you can on your own before traveling....The internet is a great resource to find out information and although things change often, many things in Brazil have stayed the same for a long time... My outlook is I want to see and do to have my own opinion versus what somebody that I do not know says...it is completely different if you know the person giving the information personally Again, best of luck on your trip

It would be great to see some photos or guys trips to Brazil...they don't necessarily have to be in a sauna but since many of the topics have been discussed numerous times... There have only been a FEW of us who have shared pics..... I know we all do other things besides go the saunas and discuss the guys there... I started this post to try something ELSE besides exactly what has started....