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I guess there is a major definition problem between those who agree and disagree about both bars lol twink, masculine, fem definition definitely have a range and that range greatly differ from one person to the other.

I am in the camp of offing straight boy too, actually i dont even ask. But if i wanted manly muscular boy, very rarely they are gay, maybe some are bi, but most of the time they are straight.

By the way, the guy that i talked about just arrived here yesterday and i just met him today, gorgeous as ever, 100% my type, muscular body builder type body, big pecs, bubble butt, fair skin, and yet very humble. I can never last very long with him lol, but we always cuddles after and talk until the time is up.

Ive used apps few times but mostly to talk to one of the freelance MB there. There are a few sauna that have a lot of locals, but they are a bit hidden and not easily accessible by public transport. I have been to one and there are quite an action there, eventhough some are a bit shy and reserved. I am not a sauna goer anyway, just went for the experience. Most of my encounters have been to the severals massage centers, and again their location are a bit hidden since its illegal here. Almost all of them are in a shop lots second or this story and u have to take the small stairs to go up, minus a few (purnama and aromann are inside shopping malls) and aroma spa actually have small entrance on ground floor of the shop lots). There have been some police raids every now and then, mostly to catch immigrants who abuse social visit pass to work. Havent heard anyone got arrested and charge for patronizing these places though, but u wouldnt want them to interrupt your session anyway, hence incall freelance from craiglists or gay apps is better, as you will be inside one of the many hotels instead. Beware of fake profiles though, easily recognizable if u do reverse image search.

I guess, and also his way to reduce his potential customers to just those who can afford him lol. But he is worth every penny to me, otherwise he would not be a regular at that price

Not into kissing is understandable, but carressing and worship? So he is just doing what? Fucking only?

The beer festival, the religious leaders are protesting against this and with the election coming, the gov decided to not grant permission to the organizer. Upon further search, that event is actually on 6-7 oct. I am now not so sure what event got cancelled on 30/9 Maybe this is the event? http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/29-4-tile/698711-gay-dance-festival-in-kuala-lumpur-let-s-see-what-the-religious-police-has-to-say.html

I know you wouldnt lol been reading your blogs for a while now, if u can get them cheaper why pay more. But then again, your type is plenty in thai, and doesnt require you to spend that much. Muscular (body builder type) men usually asked for more. Ive paid around 3k bath worth just to spend 1 hour with a really good looking and ripped indonesian muscle boy in kuala lumpur. It was incall though as he rent his own hotel. And to be able to keep that physique requires a bunch of money too, gym access, supplements, and expensive diets (as they tend to eat more than average guy) and they rarely hold a regular salaried jobs. This guy only work as barber back home, and some part time personal trainer job that pays very little there. And of course, each time he is in kl, he gets streams of customers and regulars like me using his service, so much that he eventually raised his fee.

3k for a massage is high, when u can get LT a the same price. But i believe in paying for 1. Massage skills, 2. Boy body/physics/dicks. 3. Services provided. Given all 3 are top, 3k is a fair price. I have paid more elsewhere

I only make exception if the masseur is really my type. Even that, when he gives me hj, my hand will definitely ran wild all over his body, crotch and ass lol.

Only if you are visiting acheh

There is always more than meet the eyes when it comes to human interaction, the sooner you learn that the better. While i agree that when i spend money, i might want the best looker, but that doesnt mean the best for me is the best for everyone. And if the boy didnt have a fan at all, they wont last long anyway, so the fact that they are still there usually means there are people who like them as well.

I went to hanoi in 2014 and visit sa pa by train, definitely worth going there, and then halong bay, spend a night in the cruise boat. Dont know if u can fit in sapa in your trip but google the place and see first.

Read again, if im horny, yes its great haha, but if im just looking for good massage after a long day, it is tiring, and most of these legit massage parlour masseur arent exactly my type too. In fact, i have few regulars here in KL that do just that as above, and i always go back whenever im horny lol. But when i want a good non sexual massage, ill pick a different regular. I also like to try new masseur when im not horny, coz the element of surprise is fun and if he is good, can add to my already long list of regulars. Sadly to say a lot of my previous regulars already left the business so its good to have a steady stream of regular and new masseur every now and then

Nice. This is what i wanted too when i go to a massage parlour and horny, though if i go for real massage, i wanted my massage to be really strong and non sexual, as constantly stimulating my sexual arousal by never ending teasing is tiring lol. And i am with you that i dont mind if at the end of the session, no HJ offered.

Utopia asia and travelgayasia is a good place to start. Blowingwind is a good website where gay locals interact, so if u want an insight of local gay scene, go ahead and read. Some thread might be good like those freelancer massage therapist thread, where u wont find those listed in utopia or travelgay asia. I mainly go there to read on traveller huts, mainly on Kuala Lumpur thread as it is where i live and we dont really have gay forum website in malaysia lol

If this topic is not appropriate, please remove it admin. Just curios if anyone know any websites/production/studio that produce these types of porns.

With the chinese tourist, and the "so called" impending ending of the pattaya sex trade, that is more like a marketing gimmick rather than real threat, not surprising that it is now very packed with people. Tell them they cant have it, and they start to want it even more

Once in ayutthaya, i haggle with the mocy to take me to 6 temples and a restaurant for lunch at the end of a half day trip. He asked for 300 and i say 250, and we ended up at 260. He speak very little english but kept talking in thai explaining bunch of stuff, suggested me the shortest way to tackle all 6 temple, and even had 1 detour, so at the end i pay his original asking price and he was very happy indeed.

U got me wrong, i am south east asian, and not westerners and very familiar with art of haggling when it comes to market. But what i am not comfortable haggling is with the boy that i really like lol, and it might comes off as me being cheap, not a good way to say "i really like you but you are only worth this much to me" lol having said that, if i were to travel for a long term, considering the expenses incur with the ticket, hotel, food etc, i am thinking that i might be able to somehow bring that in the calculation of the expected tips? My previous off has always been off fee plus long time fee agreed before hand, and maybe few more baht if i am happy. In fact, we only discuss money the first time i off him and it was assumed id pay the same after.

Im pretty sure its the guest only but the property name might be in the news, and a visit from police will affect businesses, which is why it is understandable hotel wants to check id as well for security and business reason

We have a few of those in KL, all male spa/massage without happy ending, so i am not surprised if there is such place in thailand. Of course at these places in KL, they are out in the open, in shopping complex and not some sleazy shop houses behind an alley. But u can still get some action depending on the chemistry between u and the masseur, and sometimes u do need to ask directly or else they wouldnt dare to do since its not allowed by their management.

Lol. I stand corrected. I meant to say firm plan on my part of the trip. Obviously need to be flexible with the boy but not too flexible that i didnt get my way. An escape plan? Hmmmm like many said here, a one way ticket back home would do right? And yes you are right that money need to be discussed early on, but it is something that i am not yet comfortable to discuss yet, though i know roughly what would make him says yes, i am not comfortable haggling.

Thats the whole point of taking gogo boy right? Otherwise i'd just take a friend with me haha.

Maybe i should make a point that i lived in a country just south of thailand and we had similar taste in food, thats for sure lol. But i get your point on travelling with strangers though its not unheard of, there are a bunch of sites just for that, couch surfers, travel buddy etc. From what i gather here, there are equal good and bad stories from forumer here, enough to make me put on hold until i know this guy better. Thanks all!