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Awesome trip report ggobkk! Wish I could be as concise as you when I write . Your report has made me really excited about my own BKK trip in June. Looking forward to spending more time at Hot Male. I've flown ANA my last two trips to BKK via Tokyo as well (flying United to and from LAX) and have been able to change my seat assignment weeks before my flights. All you need is the ANA record locator (the six digit alphanumeric number) and put in your name and you can change your seat assignments on the ANA website. I've found that the layover security check at Narita is fairly uneven (sometimes fast, sometimes slow, regardless of the number of people going through) so yeah anything less than a two hour layover is nerve-wracking.

What is a good time to have a stroll at the park to see guys working out? Is it true that some Tawan guys work out there?

I did talk to my Burmese boy last April about Aung San Suu Kyi and democracy in Myanmar, but then again it wasn't in a bar, and he is not a bar boy (yet, I think he is close to being one). When we first met (at a restaurant), he asked me these same standard questions. It's probably the universal icebreaker for all the boys in Thailand when getting to know farang.

For sure orson. I've booked a 1 bedroom condo in Silom and looking now at my options in Pattaya near Boyztown area. I'll report on what I find and my experience when I'm done with my stay, but thanks to a few posters (you know who you are, you guys are awesome), who have given me tips through PM. I do feel though like I've unlocked another BKK/Pattaya component that has previously been unexplored by me. Since I'm going to have a potentially longer stay this fall/winter I'm eager to tap into the rental condo market, though I am sure these properties are perfectly fine for shorter stays as well.

It's the Marriott on Beach Rd/Second Rd, which is a very short walk to Boyztown, not the Courtyard Marriott in South Pattaya, although the Courtyard is walkable to Sunee Plaza.

Thanks firecat69! paulsf has graciously PM'ed me about his experiences. A couple of other posters have PM'ed me as well. Looks like I am going to give this a try in June .

So it's May (or almost May where I live), and I am preparing for my 3rd trip to Bangkok this year set for late June. I've always stayed at the Crowne Plaza or Holiday Inn Express Sathorn whenever I stay in the Silom/Surawong area of Bangkok, because I have free points that I can use. But I want to mix it up this trip, and decided to look for a condo rental or AirBNB rental. Some requirements: 1) has a gym and (maybe) a pool 2) no problem taking a different boy to the room every night or even at daytime 3) a safe - to store passport and money I'm sort of doing research as well because I might have a one month stay coming up in the winter, and a condo would be a little bit more comfortable for a longer stay, because most of them have kitchens as well. I've been looking at AirBNB listings for the Silom area near BTS Sala Daeng/Chong Nonsi, and also close to Surawong Rd, and some of them are promising (some one-bedrooms for $40 - $55, which is a great deal). Anybody have any experience and possible recommendations?

I want to join the chorus of support that the others have given and say that this too shall pass. I've been lucky with my BF of 8 years (albeit we are both Americans, but that shouldn't make a difference), and would be devastated if ever our relationship were to end. While I do not know the circumstances of the causes of your separation with you man, but an unexpected one is probably the worst of them all. Going by my experience the last few times I've visited Thailand, I know that there are a lot of Thais/Asians looking for love out there, both sex workers and free boys. I hope this experience does not dissuade you in visiting Thailand again, despite many things that will probably remind you of your ex. Like you, I am most happy when in a relationship, and can't seem to stop forming close relationships with boys whenever I am in Thailand. It will only take one right boy to get you back on your feet again, even if it is just a rebound, so I hope you start trying soon!

I haven't been monogamous with my BF since close the beginning of our relationship, because it worked for us and we knew that the love we have is different from the sex we (mostly me) have with other people. Loving someone else, like a BF, is something I try not to do, since I already have a great thing going with my man. With my time with my Burmese buddy, my mind played games on me, and there were moments when I thought I'd like him to be my BF as well. During our time together in BKK two weeks ago, whenever we would see or meet some hot Thai guy at Fake Club or GCircuit, my BF would joke around about getting him as a Thai "houseboy" to stay with us at our house in California. I told him good thing we are not married yet, because this meant that we would have to marry the boy to get him a Green Card so he can live with us. He just laughed at this (preposterous) idea, and never thought I was serious. I'd think that it will be an unnecessary complication to put on our relationship, which has been really great since Day 1. So I may not be monogamous, but being polygamous, or having two or more BFs, is something I might not be ready for yet, or ever. This week back has been interesting, since I've been overcompensating with the tenderness and love for my BF (and I missed him too, since I was gone a week to go to Phuket, so it was easy), at the same time been trying to limit my Line messages with Burmese boy, as to not lead him on.

On the contrary, everything was hot and heavy from Day 1. Hanging out with a young and cute boy for 8 days in a romantic city doing very romantic things is not good for anyone who already has a boyfriend, so I was definitely playing with fire. He seemed to have grown fond of me as well, and he cried on our last night together, before I had to hop on a plane. Lesson learned: I need to just keep it within fuck buddy terms (something I have a problem doing, since I love the boyfriend experience), or just stick to gogo boys, preferably a different one a day (like a multivitamin, and equally good for my health lol).

Again, thanks for all the feedback. I probably won’t be doing a trip report to describe my three week BKK and Phuket trip during Songkran, GCircuit and days after, since I only had sex with two people (my BF – American, and my buddy – Burmese), so it’s probably boring compared to the other reports here . It’s my first time in Phuket, and I spent 4 days and 3 nights in Phuket with my young Burmese buddy. Some general about the city (and the trip with my buddy, in general): 1) I wasn’t prepared for the airport being as far from Patong as it was. Not as far as Pattaya is from Suvarnabhumi (I use a 900 baht car service that gets me to Boyztown), but not as close to BKK is. There is a 100 Baht surcharge on top of the metered rate if you use the taxis. I was not prepared to use public transport, and it was very hot, so was more than happy to pay the 730 Baht fate (including the surcharge), to get to the Holiday Inn Resort in Patong. 2) Patong Beach really is a much better beach than Pattaya’s, and we went there to walk all three days for the sunset. Reminded me of Waikiki beach. No desire from both of us to swim it, since the hotel pools were way more awesome. 3) The gay club scene was kind of paltry, compared to BKK’s or Pattaya’s. But at least there was one. Enjoyed ZAG and YES! Clubs. Gogo boys were much older than we were used to, but still hot nevertheless. In contrast, the girlie bars on Soi Bangla was ALIVE with activity. We even decided to have drinks at one because of all the excitement around the area. Maybe we went on off nights (non weekend, after Songkran, before Pride). 4) Grindr less commercial than Pattaya. In Pattaya, I’ll be slammed with Money Boys advertising their wares, often for really cheap. In Phuket, I got a total of one MB offering massage and “everything” sex for 1500 Baht (discounted to 1300 Baht a day later). Maybe it is a function of Songkran and boys went home for the holidays, or if it is just how Phuket is. 5) You guys were right, Phuket is better to be experienced with a friend. It is less gay, and less gay-visible, so having a buddy to explore and see the sites is better. It is also surprisingly romantic: the sunset, the vibe, the food, all lent to love being in the air. Maybe it was just me and the Burmese boy I was with, but boy, was I in trouble. I’ll probably go back again, this time with my BF. Thanks for the advice!

Cool I'll be there in 3 days!

Cool. One of the few I drink straight up. Guess I'll have to go to the ATM for that one.

I hope so . I've had that happen a few times last few trips. Thanks for the tip.

Wow 4k! That's pricey stuff. What kind of booze is it? I guess I should be thankful that the US dollar is (still, relatively) strong.

Question 3: OK, so I'll pretty much handle this like a short-time off. I'll ask the boy if it is OK to take him to DJ and/or restaurant. I'm pretty much going to tip him prevailing short time rate. 3some may or may not happen (80% might not happen), but will tip accordingly. I do not expect us to off a guy, but wanted to leave this as an option for us at least. vinapu: We might off a boy who I've offed in the past. Known quantity, and most probably worth the short time off fee. ChristianPFC: thanks for the link, interesting to see a lot of other people's perspective on the matter. Glad I am not the only one thinking of doing this. DivineMadman: the point for us is taking an "actual working gogo boy" out to dancing and food, not necessarily just have any other kind of boy for companionship. I'd like the BF to have interaction with a gogo boy not just in a bar. There will be plenty of opportunities for us to make new friends during GCircuit (as I have, with my friends, the past two parties). Who knows, we may get new Thai (or whatever) friends this way, as I hope we do. Good point about TIME being important thus my preference in paying him prevailing short time off fee, sex or no sex. colmx: again, looks like you have a ton of experience with this. Thanks for sharing your systematic way of handling a third boy. I hope we don't end up with a shit bag lol (that word cracks me up for no apparent reason). Good point about your Thai boyfriend using his advantage to communicate your wishes. I may use this tactic in Phuket with my Thai-Speaking Burmese boy.

Question 2: We probably won't do this in every bar (I do not see this happenning in Jupiter, for example). colmx: Looks like you have a lot of experience with this. Great tips thanks. I'll be prepared to pay more for mixers if need be. The point is to make the boys happy and sit with us while there is a show. gerefan: 1800 baht for a bottle seems reasonable, since accounting for both our drinks and the boys drink (350 baht X 3 or 4 = 1050 - 1400 baht), its close to that amount anyway. And its probably less money overall than we are used to in West Hollywood ($10 - $15 a drink, 5 or so drinks a night per person). Regardless, not looking to penny pinch that much this vacation. I'll let you know how much Dreamboys BKK will "rob" us . If they charge more than L.A. I'll be impressed. Hong Kong bars definitely charge more at times. DivideMadman: I'm prepared to have a roll of 100 baht these 4 nights we will be doing this . Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely do this at Hot Male now.

Question 1: Great stuff guys. So summarizing: I should not be worried about having guys sit with us as long as: 1) I tip him 100 baht, or 100 baht each for my BF and I 2) Get him a drink, or two, making boy (getting his cut) and mamasan happy (less harassment from them) 3) Tell him we are not offing him, and he is free to go if someone else is interested in him firecat69: thanks for thinking I will be generous. I do tip on the high side (I am easy to please I think), and usually have good luck picking boys who have positive attitudes.

Believe it or not, there is a ton of other stuff you can do in Bangkok other than offing hot guys. I know right, what a concept. Though that is all I did last February for two weeks, this trip is different. It's never a waste of time and money to have fun in Bangkok, whatever fun that would be, IMHO. YMMV of course . I'll be back to my whoring ways in June.

I wish I got commission from the Marriott Pattaya because of this sale . I screwed the boy on the lounge. Does that count?

I use torrents. Probably not the most legal thing to do, but maybe better than getting it in Thailand and risking customs (I have no experience with this).

So this time next week my BF and I will be flying from LAX to BKK for Songkran and the GCircuit party, and me going to Phuket after that. So I have THREE questions in this post. Bear with me while I try to put some context to every one: 1. How much tip would be appropriate for a gogo boy who just sits with us for the whole gogo show? My BF and I will be having about 4 nights alone together before our friends fly into BKK to hang out with us. It is my BF’s first time in BKK and he wants to see why I like going to gogo bars so much (I think he’ll figure it out the minute we step into Soi Twilight), so we intend to go to a gogo bar with a show on all those 4 nights (Dreamboys, Tawan, Hotmale, Jupiter possibly). Since we are not into threesomes, and we have no intention of offing anyone for ourselves (but you never know, it is after all Thailand), we are OK with just seeing the show, but I thought it would be nice to have a boy sit with us for the whole show, and then tipping him after the show and not offing him. How much would the appropriate tip be for the boy? 100 baht? 500 baht? I want to be fair to the boy. Bear in mind: a. he will be sitting with us in underwear for at least an hour during the show b. if he is with us, he will potentially miss some customers who would want to off him c. we would like to talk to him, touch him, hold his hand etc d. we will buy him his drink or two, we don’t care 2. Do some gogo bars provide alternate drinks, i.e. a bottle of whiskey or vodka, and we can share this with a boy or two, and maybe some bar food like peanuts, so we can socialize with the gogo boys this way? How much with this be? I’ve seen this happen in Tawan, Dreamboys BKK and Boyzboyzboyz Pattaya, where some guy (always an Asian – chinese or thai not sure) has a bottle of whiskey etc and is sharing his drinks with gogo boys and all the boys flock to him. I think this would be fun, since we like to drink, and I think it would not be too expensive to do this (I’m pretty sure it’ll be cheaper than a typical WeHo clubbing night for us). I’d still want to tip the boys who partake of the drinks and food with us. 3. What if we had a boy sit with us and we decide to “off” him and take him to DJ Station or G.O.D. and/or go for food, but not have sex with him, is this unheard of, and if it’s not, how much is the tip? I figure the tip would be the same as a short time tip, even if there is no sex. We can also be upfront with the boy and tell him that we just want to dance/eat with him and not have sex, and agree on a price, but I wanted to see if anyone here has any experience with this kind of off. The boy will be leaving us once we go back to the hotel. I just want my BF to have a good time with me at the gogo bars in BKK, and would like him to have at least some interaction with the gogo boys. I know that he would not be into offing a boy for himself or for a threesome (knowing him as I do all these years), but I will not be opposed to it if it happens. Regardless, I am just glad that my BF is finally seeing BKK with me. Any input would be appreciated!

I concur with firecat69 on his recommendation of the Marriott. Close to five star services, swimming pool has a swim up bar (pictured) so no kids in that area, and they dont have a joiner fee and only sometimes check for ID (they did this to me only once in 5 stays). There's even a backdoor way to sneak in 2 or 3 boys through the Royal Garden Plaza mall doors (first and second floors), or the Beach Rd entrance, which I have tried to do at least once when 1 boy has not been enough. It's a 5 minute walk to Boyztown, and all the boys I've offed in Boyztown knew where the hotel was when I tell them where I was staying. Photos of the swim up bar by the pool, and a 5th floor corner room balcony with lounges (huge balcony), with a boy I offed April last year:

I just downloaded a bunch of porn off the internet tonight and it's funny that I run into this hot video called "Horny Houseboy" and one of the boys in it looks like Oliver. Is it him? Regardless, it's a fun video. Bareback too, which is interesting. Apologies in advance if the photos I uploaded are not appropriate for this forum. If they are not, please take them down. I've masked the naughty bits:

Hopefully it is forever, especially since it doesn't feel like its been 8 years . Haha @ smelling the icing. If smells could transmit through video, I'd probably get horny right away, because those gogo bars smell like boys and testosterone, or as vinapu has said about the smells in Tawan are like: "sperm mixed with rose petals, plum ketchup and cough syrup".